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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I am not necessarily a fan and agreed with you here under a different username (locked out) after year one of McEntee. In relation to not holding him accountable, I absolutely have in the past. When do you think he deserves any respect though? When they win, it's Boyle and previous underage management (not sure who you'd be referring to exactly) and when they lose, he's solely responsible. You can't have your cake and eat it too!
No doubt the S&C has finally started to match other counties. So what? Is it that elite? I'm not sure. Just getting to the level it should have been at.
No, underage players coming through aren't down to McEntee. As is the case in most intercounty senior setups so not sure what the point is there.
We are certainly a better team when we turnover the ball and much a more patient side in the top end of the pitch. There's 2 things that have improved though I agree, we still look shaky when we're turned over.
At the rate you're talking, had we beat Mayo, you'd be saying it wasn't the side of years gone past. Captain Hindsight.
You're raving about McLoughlin (again) who's a good lad but has plenty to do yet to put him in the conversation with top forwards in the province. Regardless, it's McEntee playing him there. Kevin McLoughlin is in the setup 6 months and now you're suggesting he's solely responsible? From what I hear, McFadden was the more popular choice amongst the players but who cares as they are both managed by McEntee.
With regards to Caroline Currid, I'm sure there has been plenty of approaches there. But again, you're scraping for me.
As for bringing in young fellas, the gap is large enough between U20 and senior as we saw when some of them came in. It takes time. You were crying out for Joe Keaney for long enough. Actually, I'm starting to see a pattern emerge here. McLoughlin, Keane, Currid. I wonder where you're from?
Here's the facts. Sligo we're an absolute mess of a senior team when he took them over. They're in a much better place now. Is he perfect? No. Is he better than so many others who are jumping around from job to job with nothing to show but huge bills? Absolutely.
Let me finish by saying this. I'm not sure if he'll be in the job much longer or if it's the right thing for Sligo Football if he is, but he does deserve some respect. If (and I don't think we will) we won the Tailteann, we'd be punching above our weight yet in my honest opinion. Rome wasn't built in a day and the level of interest in football in this county suggests we are doing well to be where we are." Very good post.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1745 - 06/06/2024 08:43:03
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I am not necessarily a fan and agreed with you here under a different username (locked out) after year one of McEntee. In relation to not holding him accountable, I absolutely have in the past. When do you think he deserves any respect though? When they win, it's Boyle and previous underage management (not sure who you'd be referring to exactly) and when they lose, he's solely responsible. You can't have your cake and eat it too!
No doubt the S&C has finally started to match other counties. So what? Is it that elite? I'm not sure. Just getting to the level it should have been at.
No, underage players coming through aren't down to McEntee. As is the case in most intercounty senior setups so not sure what the point is there.
We are certainly a better team when we turnover the ball and much a more patient side in the top end of the pitch. There's 2 things that have improved though I agree, we still look shaky when we're turned over.
At the rate you're talking, had we beat Mayo, you'd be saying it wasn't the side of years gone past. Captain Hindsight.
You're raving about McLoughlin (again) who's a good lad but has plenty to do yet to put him in the conversation with top forwards in the province. Regardless, it's McEntee playing him there. Kevin McLoughlin is in the setup 6 months and now you're suggesting he's solely responsible? From what I hear, McFadden was the more popular choice amongst the players but who cares as they are both managed by McEntee.
With regards to Caroline Currid, I'm sure there has been plenty of approaches there. But again, you're scraping for me.
As for bringing in young fellas, the gap is large enough between U20 and senior as we saw when some of them came in. It takes time. You were crying out for Joe Keaney for long enough. Actually, I'm starting to see a pattern emerge here. McLoughlin, Keane, Currid. I wonder where you're from?
Here's the facts. Sligo we're an absolute mess of a senior team when he took them over. They're in a much better place now. Is he perfect? No. Is he better than so many others who are jumping around from job to job with nothing to show but huge bills? Absolutely.
Let me finish by saying this. I'm not sure if he'll be in the job much longer or if it's the right thing for Sligo Football if he is, but he does deserve some respect. If (and I don't think we will) we won the Tailteann, we'd be punching above our weight yet in my honest opinion. Rome wasn't built in a day and the level of interest in football in this county suggests we are doing well to be where we are." McLoughlin is a good player but not in league of POC
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I am not necessarily a fan and agreed with you here under a different username (locked out) after year one of McEntee. In relation to not holding him accountable, I absolutely have in the past. When do you think he deserves any respect though? When they win, it's Boyle and previous underage management (not sure who you'd be referring to exactly) and when they lose, he's solely responsible. You can't have your cake and eat it too!
No doubt the S&C has finally started to match other counties. So what? Is it that elite? I'm not sure. Just getting to the level it should have been at.
No, underage players coming through aren't down to McEntee. As is the case in most intercounty senior setups so not sure what the point is there.
We are certainly a better team when we turnover the ball and much a more patient side in the top end of the pitch. There's 2 things that have improved though I agree, we still look shaky when we're turned over.
At the rate you're talking, had we beat Mayo, you'd be saying it wasn't the side of years gone past. Captain Hindsight.
You're raving about McLoughlin (again) who's a good lad but has plenty to do yet to put him in the conversation with top forwards in the province. Regardless, it's McEntee playing him there. Kevin McLoughlin is in the setup 6 months and now you're suggesting he's solely responsible? From what I hear, McFadden was the more popular choice amongst the players but who cares as they are both managed by McEntee.
With regards to Caroline Currid, I'm sure there has been plenty of approaches there. But again, you're scraping for me.
As for bringing in young fellas, the gap is large enough between U20 and senior as we saw when some of them came in. It takes time. You were crying out for Joe Keaney for long enough. Actually, I'm starting to see a pattern emerge here. McLoughlin, Keane, Currid. I wonder where you're from?
Here's the facts. Sligo we're an absolute mess of a senior team when he took them over. They're in a much better place now. Is he perfect? No. Is he better than so many others who are jumping around from job to job with nothing to show but huge bills? Absolutely.
Let me finish by saying this. I'm not sure if he'll be in the job much longer or if it's the right thing for Sligo Football if he is, but he does deserve some respect. If (and I don't think we will) we won the Tailteann, we'd be punching above our weight yet in my honest opinion. Rome wasn't built in a day and the level of interest in football in this county suggests we are doing well to be where we are." Excellent,balanced post
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I am not necessarily a fan and agreed with you here under a different username (locked out) after year one of McEntee. In relation to not holding him accountable, I absolutely have in the past. When do you think he deserves any respect though? When they win, it's Boyle and previous underage management (not sure who you'd be referring to exactly) and when they lose, he's solely responsible. You can't have your cake and eat it too!
No doubt the S&C has finally started to match other counties. So what? Is it that elite? I'm not sure. Just getting to the level it should have been at.
No, underage players coming through aren't down to McEntee. As is the case in most intercounty senior setups so not sure what the point is there.
We are certainly a better team when we turnover the ball and much a more patient side in the top end of the pitch. There's 2 things that have improved though I agree, we still look shaky when we're turned over.
At the rate you're talking, had we beat Mayo, you'd be saying it wasn't the side of years gone past. Captain Hindsight.
You're raving about McLoughlin (again) who's a good lad but has plenty to do yet to put him in the conversation with top forwards in the province. Regardless, it's McEntee playing him there. Kevin McLoughlin is in the setup 6 months and now you're suggesting he's solely responsible? From what I hear, McFadden was the more popular choice amongst the players but who cares as they are both managed by McEntee.
With regards to Caroline Currid, I'm sure there has been plenty of approaches there. But again, you're scraping for me.
As for bringing in young fellas, the gap is large enough between U20 and senior as we saw when some of them came in. It takes time. You were crying out for Joe Keaney for long enough. Actually, I'm starting to see a pattern emerge here. McLoughlin, Keane, Currid. I wonder where you're from?
Here's the facts. Sligo we're an absolute mess of a senior team when he took them over. They're in a much better place now. Is he perfect? No. Is he better than so many others who are jumping around from job to job with nothing to show but huge bills? Absolutely.
Let me finish by saying this. I'm not sure if he'll be in the job much longer or if it's the right thing for Sligo Football if he is, but he does deserve some respect. If (and I don't think we will) we won the Tailteann, we'd be punching above our weight yet in my honest opinion. Rome wasn't built in a day and the level of interest in football in this county suggests we are doing well to be where we are." Great post. The point about the Under 20s coming in being the big one. If it was that easy, why isn't every county doing it? It's a level up in terms of size, speed and game intelligence. Though some players will undoubtedly come through, others will have maxed out at that level and won't be seen much in a senior Sligo jersey. Sometimes it's the guy who wasn't getting a game at underage level who may turn out to be a better senior player.
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Replying To Ice_cream_dromore: "McLoughlin is a good player but not in league of POC" I'm not one for this "not in the league of." I really like McLoughlin this year, but as stated by previous poster, has plenty to do to show lasting power of other forwards. However, he has been one of our most consistent performers in recent months alongside couple of others including Cian Lally who has gone up a level this year. Both would be in the conversation for our best players this year. When you see the emergence of them alongside Murphy, Carrabine, O'Connor, you realise that there has been undoubted improvements. It really is a far cry from the reliance we placed on Murphy to do our scoring alongside an aging Marren or injured Hughes. Certainly, we are in a better place from number 8, up.
Though, I think Towey is a big big loss and I do feel we are at least one more good man marker short at the back to win the Tailteann. I could see Down/Kildare really hurting us inside in Croke Park should we get to a Semi Final. Walsh doing so well when he comes in, but is he just an impact player? Is Spillane a starter either?
With regards the keeper situation, what's the alternative? Is there a better option? I'm not sure yet. What is our best 15 with everyone fit?
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Replying To johncreilly: "I'm not one for this "not in the league of." I really like McLoughlin this year, but as stated by previous poster, has plenty to do to show lasting power of other forwards. However, he has been one of our most consistent performers in recent months alongside couple of others including Cian Lally who has gone up a level this year. Both would be in the conversation for our best players this year. When you see the emergence of them alongside Murphy, Carrabine, O'Connor, you realise that there has been undoubted improvements. It really is a far cry from the reliance we placed on Murphy to do our scoring alongside an aging Marren or injured Hughes. Certainly, we are in a better place from number 8, up.
Though, I think Towey is a big big loss and I do feel we are at least one more good man marker short at the back to win the Tailteann. I could see Down/Kildare really hurting us inside in Croke Park should we get to a Semi Final. Walsh doing so well when he comes in, but is he just an impact player? Is Spillane a starter either?
With regards the keeper situation, what's the alternative? Is there a better option? I'm not sure yet. What is our best 15 with everyone fit?" I would have no fear of Kildare. We have caused them a lot more problems than they ever caused us . One year we had to teach them how to count. That all on the horizon yet, we will have a difficult but winnable match at home first.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1745 - 06/06/2024 13:03:42
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I am not necessarily a fan and agreed with you here under a different username (locked out) after year one of McEntee. In relation to not holding him accountable, I absolutely have in the past. When do you think he deserves any respect though? When they win, it's Boyle and previous underage management (not sure who you'd be referring to exactly) and when they lose, he's solely responsible. You can't have your cake and eat it too!
No doubt the S&C has finally started to match other counties. So what? Is it that elite? I'm not sure. Just getting to the level it should have been at.
No, underage players coming through aren't down to McEntee. As is the case in most intercounty senior setups so not sure what the point is there.
We are certainly a better team when we turnover the ball and much a more patient side in the top end of the pitch. There's 2 things that have improved though I agree, we still look shaky when we're turned over.
At the rate you're talking, had we beat Mayo, you'd be saying it wasn't the side of years gone past. Captain Hindsight.
You're raving about McLoughlin (again) who's a good lad but has plenty to do yet to put him in the conversation with top forwards in the province. Regardless, it's McEntee playing him there. Kevin McLoughlin is in the setup 6 months and now you're suggesting he's solely responsible? From what I hear, McFadden was the more popular choice amongst the players but who cares as they are both managed by McEntee.
With regards to Caroline Currid, I'm sure there has been plenty of approaches there. But again, you're scraping for me.
As for bringing in young fellas, the gap is large enough between U20 and senior as we saw when some of them came in. It takes time. You were crying out for Joe Keaney for long enough. Actually, I'm starting to see a pattern emerge here. McLoughlin, Keane, Currid. I wonder where you're from?
Here's the facts. Sligo we're an absolute mess of a senior team when he took them over. They're in a much better place now. Is he perfect? No. Is he better than so many others who are jumping around from job to job with nothing to show but huge bills? Absolutely.
Let me finish by saying this. I'm not sure if he'll be in the job much longer or if it's the right thing for Sligo Football if he is, but he does deserve some respect. If (and I don't think we will) we won the Tailteann, we'd be punching above our weight yet in my honest opinion. Rome wasn't built in a day and the level of interest in football in this county suggests we are doing well to be where we are." Your post is just about balanced enough I will give you that but has inaccuracies. If you look back through my posts I actually do give McEntee credit when we win or he gets the team and changes right. He is not fully to blame when we lose or win. But some of his decisions for us have annoyed me and I feel just held us back. I don't think pointing them out is disrespectful towards him.
I agree with your point on S&C as a basic minimum starting point but that is player driven. Under Taylor we have 10 or so even using the gym in scarden compared to 100+ different players on S&C from 17 up now. That's the underage success bounce. Whatever Senior manager is charge will benefit from that and have us in a better place.
When McEntee took the job over I said 2 things I would judge him on outside of results in terms of improvement was the pace of the team to stay with runners from deep and not conceding goals. The last minute Galway goal was a 5 on 2, and Antrim missed 2 easy goal chances. This is even with the quality of players at his disposal improving drastically. I am not sure of our defensive set up. I would add certain players in the defence wouldn't be near my 26 squad and that's a problem for me. Every game I see them make mistakes, not cover back or read danger but are the first to join in attack. If I was an opposing manager I wouldn't fear the our defensive structure at all, in fact I see loads of holes in it.
McEntee doesn't buy into Sport psychology, so Caroline will never be involved as long as he is there. That is very frustrating because mindset is very important. I honestly believe she would want to be involved with Sligo with the right set up, but I can't speak for her.
The Molaise link is below the belt and not accurate, I've always been county first and always will be and objective in my analysis. I grew up in the unamalgamated club. I never said McLoughlin was a top forward in the province. Did you read the comments on Lally who from our rival neighbouring club. Keaney's performance in the county final deserved more of a chance than 1 Connacht league game on astro turf and January challenges when he's flat out with sigerson. Would anyone argue that point given his underage performances too? Will every underage player be judged the same way in January. Not many will make it through if that's the player pathway. Now players do need to have the right attitude, be coachable and train better in those months but from my knowledge McEntee has his favorites and was reluctant to bring through players. His team selections are conservative and he rarely changes it up unless forced to so its hard to breakthrough. Canice would not be starting if certain injuries hadn't happened as an example.
This is year 4 of McEntee and year 6 of Keane's coaching so Rome certainly wasn't built in a day.
Lastly, I actually think McEntee being manager is part of the reason for the lack of interest in the seniors which actually isn't right. Sligo people should support the Seniors regardless of who is in charge imo. It should be an interesting to see how we get on for the remainder of the season.
Bumblebee, would you keep McEntee on for another year if a McGowan/Mark McHugh/Currid ticket was available and achievable? Do the remaining Tailtean results have any impact in that decision in your opinion?
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1661 - 06/06/2024 16:27:17
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I am not necessarily a fan and agreed with you here under a different username (locked out) after year one of McEntee. In relation to not holding him accountable, I absolutely have in the past. When do you think he deserves any respect though? When they win, it's Boyle and previous underage management (not sure who you'd be referring to exactly) and when they lose, he's solely responsible. You can't have your cake and eat it too!
No doubt the S&C has finally started to match other counties. So what? Is it that elite? I'm not sure. Just getting to the level it should have been at.
No, underage players coming through aren't down to McEntee. As is the case in most intercounty senior setups so not sure what the point is there.
We are certainly a better team when we turnover the ball and much a more patient side in the top end of the pitch. There's 2 things that have improved though I agree, we still look shaky when we're turned over.
At the rate you're talking, had we beat Mayo, you'd be saying it wasn't the side of years gone past. Captain Hindsight.
You're raving about McLoughlin (again) who's a good lad but has plenty to do yet to put him in the conversation with top forwards in the province. Regardless, it's McEntee playing him there. Kevin McLoughlin is in the setup 6 months and now you're suggesting he's solely responsible? From what I hear, McFadden was the more popular choice amongst the players but who cares as they are both managed by McEntee.
With regards to Caroline Currid, I'm sure there has been plenty of approaches there. But again, you're scraping for me.
As for bringing in young fellas, the gap is large enough between U20 and senior as we saw when some of them came in. It takes time. You were crying out for Joe Keaney for long enough. Actually, I'm starting to see a pattern emerge here. McLoughlin, Keane, Currid. I wonder where you're from?
Here's the facts. Sligo we're an absolute mess of a senior team when he took them over. They're in a much better place now. Is he perfect? No. Is he better than so many others who are jumping around from job to job with nothing to show but huge bills? Absolutely.
Let me finish by saying this. I'm not sure if he'll be in the job much longer or if it's the right thing for Sligo Football if he is, but he does deserve some respect. If (and I don't think we will) we won the Tailteann, we'd be punching above our weight yet in my honest opinion. Rome wasn't built in a day and the level of interest in football in this county suggests we are doing well to be where we are." Great post in fairness. In fact if it was a debate - you would have won it by a landslide.
Joe Keaney is a good player but was in there for two years, does that mean it is McEntee's fault?
Think we all know at this stage what Club colours Sligonian is wearing. haha
RealSouthSligo (Sligo) - Posts: 87 - 06/06/2024 16:31:45
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Replying To Sligonian: "Your post is just about balanced enough I will give you that but has inaccuracies. If you look back through my posts I actually do give McEntee credit when we win or he gets the team and changes right. He is not fully to blame when we lose or win. But some of his decisions for us have annoyed me and I feel just held us back. I don't think pointing them out is disrespectful towards him.
I agree with your point on S&C as a basic minimum starting point but that is player driven. Under Taylor we have 10 or so even using the gym in scarden compared to 100+ different players on S&C from 17 up now. That's the underage success bounce. Whatever Senior manager is charge will benefit from that and have us in a better place.
When McEntee took the job over I said 2 things I would judge him on outside of results in terms of improvement was the pace of the team to stay with runners from deep and not conceding goals. The last minute Galway goal was a 5 on 2, and Antrim missed 2 easy goal chances. This is even with the quality of players at his disposal improving drastically. I am not sure of our defensive set up. I would add certain players in the defence wouldn't be near my 26 squad and that's a problem for me. Every game I see them make mistakes, not cover back or read danger but are the first to join in attack. If I was an opposing manager I wouldn't fear the our defensive structure at all, in fact I see loads of holes in it.
McEntee doesn't buy into Sport psychology, so Caroline will never be involved as long as he is there. That is very frustrating because mindset is very important. I honestly believe she would want to be involved with Sligo with the right set up, but I can't speak for her.
The Molaise link is below the belt and not accurate, I've always been county first and always will be and objective in my analysis. I grew up in the unamalgamated club. I never said McLoughlin was a top forward in the province. Did you read the comments on Lally who from our rival neighbouring club. Keaney's performance in the county final deserved more of a chance than 1 Connacht league game on astro turf and January challenges when he's flat out with sigerson. Would anyone argue that point given his underage performances too? Will every underage player be judged the same way in January. Not many will make it through if that's the player pathway. Now players do need to have the right attitude, be coachable and train better in those months but from my knowledge McEntee has his favorites and was reluctant to bring through players. His team selections are conservative and he rarely changes it up unless forced to so its hard to breakthrough. Canice would not be starting if certain injuries hadn't happened as an example.
This is year 4 of McEntee and year 6 of Keane's coaching so Rome certainly wasn't built in a day.
Lastly, I actually think McEntee being manager is part of the reason for the lack of interest in the seniors which actually isn't right. Sligo people should support the Seniors regardless of who is in charge imo. It should be an interesting to see how we get on for the remainder of the season.
Bumblebee, would you keep McEntee on for another year if a McGowan/Mark McHugh/Currid ticket was available and achievable? Do the remaining Tailtean results have any impact in that decision in your opinion?" I actually think McEntee being manager is part of the reason for the lack of interest in the seniors which actually isn't right
what do you mean by this? attendances at games is down all over the country, there is big interest around the county that this team can go well in TC but who is going to pay money to group games when 3 out of 4 teams emerge from group. Everyone is waiting for knockout stages. I expect a good crowd at home quarter final
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Joe Keaney for good bad or indifferent reasons is one of the most talked about players in the county, obviously McEntee didn't take to him, seems you either rate him or don't, simple as, @sligonian will he ever go back in do you think, will Marren etc and others go back in if Given the chance, who from the 20s this year do you see coming in? McEntee results are good in championship to be fair
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There was 75 paying spectators at the Longford v Waterford match last Sunday. I think the attendance for the Sligo/Wexford match a few weeks ago was 1500. If Leitrim were to win against Wicklow and get drawn against us I would expect 6 or 7 thousand at the game. If we get drawn any of the rest I can't see more than 5. I'm glad crowd's across the country are poor so that Croke Park will be made pay attention. It's a poor, boring format and people can see through it. Incidentally Dessie Sloyane's managerial credentials has seriously nose dived since he went to Longford. It was supposed to be a dream job with the experienced Paddy Christie. It's turned into a nightmares for Dessie, a decent guy and passionate about Sligo football
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1745 - 06/06/2024 19:44:54
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Replying To Sligowizard: "Joe Keaney for good bad or indifferent reasons is one of the most talked about players in the county, obviously McEntee didn't take to him, seems you either rate him or don't, simple as, @sligonian will he ever go back in do you think, will Marren etc and others go back in if Given the chance, who from the 20s this year do you see coming in? McEntee results are good in championship to be fair" As a Dub living in Sligo for many years I see great improvement in the team, last 18 months. I was at round 1 of the league early 2023 and frankly the team were a mess tactically and confidence wise against Laois. With much the same players they have come on a ton, playing a decent style of football, entertaining to watch and no doubt for the players too.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 735 - 06/06/2024 19:48:37
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Replying To Sligonian: "Your post is just about balanced enough I will give you that but has inaccuracies. If you look back through my posts I actually do give McEntee credit when we win or he gets the team and changes right. He is not fully to blame when we lose or win. But some of his decisions for us have annoyed me and I feel just held us back. I don't think pointing them out is disrespectful towards him.
I agree with your point on S&C as a basic minimum starting point but that is player driven. Under Taylor we have 10 or so even using the gym in scarden compared to 100+ different players on S&C from 17 up now. That's the underage success bounce. Whatever Senior manager is charge will benefit from that and have us in a better place.
When McEntee took the job over I said 2 things I would judge him on outside of results in terms of improvement was the pace of the team to stay with runners from deep and not conceding goals. The last minute Galway goal was a 5 on 2, and Antrim missed 2 easy goal chances. This is even with the quality of players at his disposal improving drastically. I am not sure of our defensive set up. I would add certain players in the defence wouldn't be near my 26 squad and that's a problem for me. Every game I see them make mistakes, not cover back or read danger but are the first to join in attack. If I was an opposing manager I wouldn't fear the our defensive structure at all, in fact I see loads of holes in it.
McEntee doesn't buy into Sport psychology, so Caroline will never be involved as long as he is there. That is very frustrating because mindset is very important. I honestly believe she would want to be involved with Sligo with the right set up, but I can't speak for her.
The Molaise link is below the belt and not accurate, I've always been county first and always will be and objective in my analysis. I grew up in the unamalgamated club. I never said McLoughlin was a top forward in the province. Did you read the comments on Lally who from our rival neighbouring club. Keaney's performance in the county final deserved more of a chance than 1 Connacht league game on astro turf and January challenges when he's flat out with sigerson. Would anyone argue that point given his underage performances too? Will every underage player be judged the same way in January. Not many will make it through if that's the player pathway. Now players do need to have the right attitude, be coachable and train better in those months but from my knowledge McEntee has his favorites and was reluctant to bring through players. His team selections are conservative and he rarely changes it up unless forced to so its hard to breakthrough. Canice would not be starting if certain injuries hadn't happened as an example.
This is year 4 of McEntee and year 6 of Keane's coaching so Rome certainly wasn't built in a day.
Lastly, I actually think McEntee being manager is part of the reason for the lack of interest in the seniors which actually isn't right. Sligo people should support the Seniors regardless of who is in charge imo. It should be an interesting to see how we get on for the remainder of the season.
Bumblebee, would you keep McEntee on for another year if a McGowan/Mark McHugh/Currid ticket was available and achievable? Do the remaining Tailtean results have any impact in that decision in your opinion?" I'm sure you're a nice guy but you are raving here and contradicting yourself time after time.
And feel free to point out the inaccuracies when you get a chance.
S&C has little to do with bounce and more to do with foundations put in place after seeing years of drubbings at underage. But again, not seeing the point of your statement.
As for how you would judge McEntee, I can't but laugh. 2 fairly random things to judge him by. You might as well decide to judge him on his choice of sock colour. 2 things interest any fan, playing style and results. Anyone else stating otherwise is talking rubbish. Yes, we aren't hectic defensively but I think our strength is up top and maybe he feels he can roll with that. And you may well stick up here in 2 weeks time when kildare beat us 0-22 to 0-20 thar you were proven right. We certainly will lose a game again Sligonian. That I promise.
The Grange comment wasn't meant to be beloe the belt. I didn't realise you were as sensitive. I apologise for pointing thar out. I should have recognised thar you were a county first mam as are all good gaels.
CC may well get involved at some point and good luck to her if she does. She won't come cheap and rightly so. But a manager is entitled to pick his team if it's true she hasn't been asked. Did any other Sligo setup ask her?
How many days did Rome take out of interest?
What's the evidence for Sligo players not being interested? The Tourlestrane thing is nothing new. The hurlers was a call that was long overdue. What are you talking about?
The Tailteann has a bearing as I think it'd galvanise the support behind him. However, if we can get a management team of Jim Gavin, Mick O, Sean Boylan and Pep Guardiola, I think we should change it up. If, eh?
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I'm sure you're a nice guy but you are raving here and contradicting yourself time after time.
And feel free to point out the inaccuracies when you get a chance.
S&C has little to do with bounce and more to do with foundations put in place after seeing years of drubbings at underage. But again, not seeing the point of your statement.
As for how you would judge McEntee, I can't but laugh. 2 fairly random things to judge him by. You might as well decide to judge him on his choice of sock colour. 2 things interest any fan, playing style and results. Anyone else stating otherwise is talking rubbish. Yes, we aren't hectic defensively but I think our strength is up top and maybe he feels he can roll with that. And you may well stick up here in 2 weeks time when kildare beat us 0-22 to 0-20 thar you were proven right. We certainly will lose a game again Sligonian. That I promise.
The Grange comment wasn't meant to be beloe the belt. I didn't realise you were as sensitive. I apologise for pointing thar out. I should have recognised thar you were a county first mam as are all good gaels.
CC may well get involved at some point and good luck to her if she does. She won't come cheap and rightly so. But a manager is entitled to pick his team if it's true she hasn't been asked. Did any other Sligo setup ask her?
How many days did Rome take out of interest?
What's the evidence for Sligo players not being interested? The Tourlestrane thing is nothing new. The hurlers was a call that was long overdue. What are you talking about?
The Tailteann has a bearing as I think it'd galvanise the support behind him. However, if we can get a management team of Jim Gavin, Mick O, Sean Boylan and Pep Guardiola, I think we should change it up. If, eh?" Bumblebee, What is the Tourlestrane thing? Is it the undeniable admiration of securing 7 in a row county titles?
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Replying To leyny: "Bumblebee, What is the Tourlestrane thing? Is it the undeniable admiration of securing 7 in a row county titles?" Oh I'm not belittling the achievement at all. Just highlighting that isn't something new where the club is number one. I've plenty of admiration for that stance in lots of ways
Bumblebee123 (Sligo) - Posts: 21 - 07/06/2024 00:56:37
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Everyone needs to get over the Joe Keaney issue for his sake, his clubs and our own sanity.
Unless things have changed, if you are going well at training - you get your chance. Anyways - move on from it and we should only concentrate on players in the setup.
Agree some of the subs we are using are not up to the required level - my opinion. Would not be fair to name them as some of them have been good servants to Sligo GAA.
On the point of Caroline Currid, she would not come cheap and famous saying "Is CC going to stop us conceding a last minute goal or kicking a point to win a game?"
Different gravy with the counties CC has worked with - Tyrone, Dublin, Tipperary and Limerick.
Would I love to see her involved ? Yes of course but would not be a deal breaker and all comes down to if the manager wants to have her involved.
Crazy statement to say that people have no interest in Sligo because McEntee - I was in Cavan last week and we had the majority of the support there.
No matter who we play, it is important that we have a big crowd for home Quarter final. It would be a great experience for players and fans to play in Croke Park for the semi final - (have to get there first).
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I'm sure you're a nice guy but you are raving here and contradicting yourself time after time.
And feel free to point out the inaccuracies when you get a chance.
S&C has little to do with bounce and more to do with foundations put in place after seeing years of drubbings at underage. But again, not seeing the point of your statement.
As for how you would judge McEntee, I can't but laugh. 2 fairly random things to judge him by. You might as well decide to judge him on his choice of sock colour. 2 things interest any fan, playing style and results. Anyone else stating otherwise is talking rubbish. Yes, we aren't hectic defensively but I think our strength is up top and maybe he feels he can roll with that. And you may well stick up here in 2 weeks time when kildare beat us 0-22 to 0-20 thar you were proven right. We certainly will lose a game again Sligonian. That I promise.
The Grange comment wasn't meant to be beloe the belt. I didn't realise you were as sensitive. I apologise for pointing thar out. I should have recognised thar you were a county first mam as are all good gaels.
CC may well get involved at some point and good luck to her if she does. She won't come cheap and rightly so. But a manager is entitled to pick his team if it's true she hasn't been asked. Did any other Sligo setup ask her?
How many days did Rome take out of interest?
What's the evidence for Sligo players not being interested? The Tourlestrane thing is nothing new. The hurlers was a call that was long overdue. What are you talking about?
The Tailteann has a bearing as I think it'd galvanise the support behind him. However, if we can get a management team of Jim Gavin, Mick O, Sean Boylan and Pep Guardiola, I think we should change it up. If, eh?" Ouch!
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Replying To eoinog: "There was 75 paying spectators at the Longford v Waterford match last Sunday. I think the attendance for the Sligo/Wexford match a few weeks ago was 1500. If Leitrim were to win against Wicklow and get drawn against us I would expect 6 or 7 thousand at the game. If we get drawn any of the rest I can't see more than 5. I'm glad crowd's across the country are poor so that Croke Park will be made pay attention. It's a poor, boring format and people can see through it. Incidentally Dessie Sloyane's managerial credentials has seriously nose dived since he went to Longford. It was supposed to be a dream job with the experienced Paddy Christie. It's turned into a nightmares for Dessie, a decent guy and passionate about Sligo football" 75 too many tbh. Nobody wants to watch these pointless games.
Ice_cream_dromore (Sligo) - Posts: 11 - 07/06/2024 09:31:18
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Replying To Sligonian: "Your post is just about balanced enough I will give you that but has inaccuracies. If you look back through my posts I actually do give McEntee credit when we win or he gets the team and changes right. He is not fully to blame when we lose or win. But some of his decisions for us have annoyed me and I feel just held us back. I don't think pointing them out is disrespectful towards him.
I agree with your point on S&C as a basic minimum starting point but that is player driven. Under Taylor we have 10 or so even using the gym in scarden compared to 100+ different players on S&C from 17 up now. That's the underage success bounce. Whatever Senior manager is charge will benefit from that and have us in a better place.
When McEntee took the job over I said 2 things I would judge him on outside of results in terms of improvement was the pace of the team to stay with runners from deep and not conceding goals. The last minute Galway goal was a 5 on 2, and Antrim missed 2 easy goal chances. This is even with the quality of players at his disposal improving drastically. I am not sure of our defensive set up. I would add certain players in the defence wouldn't be near my 26 squad and that's a problem for me. Every game I see them make mistakes, not cover back or read danger but are the first to join in attack. If I was an opposing manager I wouldn't fear the our defensive structure at all, in fact I see loads of holes in it.
McEntee doesn't buy into Sport psychology, so Caroline will never be involved as long as he is there. That is very frustrating because mindset is very important. I honestly believe she would want to be involved with Sligo with the right set up, but I can't speak for her.
The Molaise link is below the belt and not accurate, I've always been county first and always will be and objective in my analysis. I grew up in the unamalgamated club. I never said McLoughlin was a top forward in the province. Did you read the comments on Lally who from our rival neighbouring club. Keaney's performance in the county final deserved more of a chance than 1 Connacht league game on astro turf and January challenges when he's flat out with sigerson. Would anyone argue that point given his underage performances too? Will every underage player be judged the same way in January. Not many will make it through if that's the player pathway. Now players do need to have the right attitude, be coachable and train better in those months but from my knowledge McEntee has his favorites and was reluctant to bring through players. His team selections are conservative and he rarely changes it up unless forced to so its hard to breakthrough. Canice would not be starting if certain injuries hadn't happened as an example.
This is year 4 of McEntee and year 6 of Keane's coaching so Rome certainly wasn't built in a day.
Lastly, I actually think McEntee being manager is part of the reason for the lack of interest in the seniors which actually isn't right. Sligo people should support the Seniors regardless of who is in charge imo. It should be an interesting to see how we get on for the remainder of the season.
Bumblebee, would you keep McEntee on for another year if a McGowan/Mark McHugh/Currid ticket was available and achievable? Do the remaining Tailtean results have any impact in that decision in your opinion?" McGowan had plenty of criticism on here when Tourlestrane couldn't get a win in Connacht. Undoubtedly a great coach but I don't know would I parachute him in at the expense of McEntee. Also the there was much scepticism when McLoughlin went in on the McEntee ticket but somehow Mark McHugh with one years experience with Roscommon is a more suitable candidate. The grass is not always greener on the other side. I too was at the Galway game, that goal was unfortunate but we were ready to go at Galway if the mistake wasn't made, it was brave football and it was brave football that got them into the winning position in the first place. So far in the tailteann we have been a bit more attacking and for that reason are leaving gaps at the back when we turnover the ball. We can probably afford to do this due to the quality of team we're playing. We ourselves had excellent goal chances v Antrim not counting the fisted over bar attempts. We play a nice brand of football, 20 points is not to be sniffed at. Alan McLoughlin has been excellent, lally too and Murphy is doing the business inside. McLoughlin is probably benefitting a little from being a relative unknown, Murphy, Carrabine, Lally and Ice creams favourite player POC probably would attract the better defenders. Especially playing the teams with a little less depth. Going forward it will be interesting to see how we go up top. McLoughlin will perhaps move up that list. Lally has been excellent and is at the core of everything good we do. Teams cannot get near him with his long limbs and power. It's a pity Reilly left the panel now to add more depth. His football ability when teams tire could be an absolute game changer. He is the best kick passer in the county. In relation to bringing players in straight from u20 I don't think people understand the step up in speed, physicality and quality. Canice an exception but nobody could doubt his quality and doggedness. Ultimately I think we're in a good place and would hope we get a good crowd for a home quarter final. It's nice to see a bit of interest here at least.
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Replying To BreakingBall123: "McGowan had plenty of criticism on here when Tourlestrane couldn't get a win in Connacht. Undoubtedly a great coach but I don't know would I parachute him in at the expense of McEntee. Also the there was much scepticism when McLoughlin went in on the McEntee ticket but somehow Mark McHugh with one years experience with Roscommon is a more suitable candidate. The grass is not always greener on the other side. I too was at the Galway game, that goal was unfortunate but we were ready to go at Galway if the mistake wasn't made, it was brave football and it was brave football that got them into the winning position in the first place. So far in the tailteann we have been a bit more attacking and for that reason are leaving gaps at the back when we turnover the ball. We can probably afford to do this due to the quality of team we're playing. We ourselves had excellent goal chances v Antrim not counting the fisted over bar attempts. We play a nice brand of football, 20 points is not to be sniffed at. Alan McLoughlin has been excellent, lally too and Murphy is doing the business inside. McLoughlin is probably benefitting a little from being a relative unknown, Murphy, Carrabine, Lally and Ice creams favourite player POC probably would attract the better defenders. Especially playing the teams with a little less depth. Going forward it will be interesting to see how we go up top. McLoughlin will perhaps move up that list. Lally has been excellent and is at the core of everything good we do. Teams cannot get near him with his long limbs and power. It's a pity Reilly left the panel now to add more depth. His football ability when teams tire could be an absolute game changer. He is the best kick passer in the county. In relation to bringing players in straight from u20 I don't think people understand the step up in speed, physicality and quality. Canice an exception but nobody could doubt his quality and doggedness. Ultimately I think we're in a good place and would hope we get a good crowd for a home quarter final. It's nice to see a bit of interest here at least." Wrong Cawley playing with the team too lol
Ice_cream_dromore (Sligo) - Posts: 11 - 07/06/2024 11:06:04
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