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Replying To BeardedBorderGael: "Difficult to know for sure but likely Covid and the lock downs from March 2020 onwards played some part. Some people are really only members of their club in order to be able to get tickets for the big all ticket inter-county matches. When spectators were not permitted at games for some there was little reason to be members. Why they haven't come back to their clubs is the question. If Donegal start to look like they may be close to an All-Ireland final again we'll likely see those numbers rise." Covid without a doubt is the main factor. The main drop off on numbers happened between 2020 and 2021 (3,500 drop in membership). Covid basically ruined the 2020 season HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 522 - 09/12/2023 14:41:55 2516118 Link
Club membership will be back up this year the chances of getting to an All Ireland final are better than last few years so anyone looking for a Ticket for Final needs to be member of Club. jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 452 - 09/12/2023 21:02:40 2516153 Link
The fact that we don't really have an interesting division 1 also, I think, has had an impact on membership. The best 35 players aren't allowed to play league, the best of the rest head Stateside, makes 80% of the games less interesting, people don't come down to watch and are less likely to then join. Last year's league final wasn't even valued by the teams in it. The decline of the league started in 2013 and now it's totally bland if you're a good team that is safe in Division 1. We only see our start players play twice on their own pitch if we are lucky. SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 10/12/2023 11:57:54 2516179 Link
Looking at the nominations for convention.. we still have too many of the usual suspects hanging around, too much musical chairs. Time for some people to stand aside and get some fresh ideas in there. For example, we have a former chairman who became the children's officer and now when he was replaced as children's officer wants to become the treasurer. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 586 - 11/12/2023 14:10:43 2516359 Link
2024 Mangers - by my could 19 clubs with out a Manager for the coming season. Dungloe - Dessie Gallagher Termon - not ratified, assume it is Caolan McDaid again? Red Hughs - Benny McDevitt Aodh Rua - ?? Ardara - Damian Devenney Burt - ?? Moville - ?? Buncrana - Gary Duffy Milford - James McGinley Carndonagh - ?? Glenswilly - ?? Kilcar - ?? Cloughaneely - Denis Doohan Fanad Gaels - ?? Letterkenny Gaels - ?? Gaoth Dobhair - Ronan Macnaillais Glenfin - Frank Ward?? Urris - ?? Malin - Michael Byrne? Naomh Padraig Uisce Chaoin - Daniel McAuley Killybegs - ?? Four Masters - Kevin Sinclair Downings - ?? Na Rossa - Declan Bonner St Eunans - Barry Meehan N Brid - ?? N Colmcille - ?? Naomh Columba - ?? Naomh Conaill- Martin Regab St Marys Convoy - Laurence McMullan Naomh Michael - Peter Sweeney?? N Muire - Danny Odonnell St Nauls - Stephen Griffen N Padraig Lifford - ?? Naomh Ultan - ?? Pettigo - ?? Bundoran - James Keaney Robert Emmetts - ?? Sean MacCumhaills - Gary Wilson beidhmeanseo (Donegal) - Posts: 139 - 11/12/2023 15:46:21 2516374 Link
Replying To greenfan: "Looking at the nominations for convention.. we still have too many of the usual suspects hanging around, too much musical chairs. Time for some people to stand aside and get some fresh ideas in there. For example, we have a former chairman who became the children's officer and now when he was replaced as children's officer wants to become the treasurer." The neck on these people is surreal. They cannot or will not read the room. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1389 - 11/12/2023 15:54:41 2516375 Link
Replying To Donegal_abroad: "The neck on these people is surreal. They cannot or will not read the room." All counties are the same. Is there anyone to run against ppl and if so surely the clubs will vote for the alternative? Or is it a case of man doing his best as nobody else will do it but will continue ti hurl from the ditch? Champotime18 (Leitrim) - Posts: 442 - 11/12/2023 23:21:37 2516413 Link
Replying To jacktheboy: "Club membership will be back up this year the chances of getting to an All Ireland final are better than last few years so anyone looking for a Ticket for Final needs to be member of Club." The club member is tuned-in. Don't expect a rise in numbers should the convention go belly-up tomorrow. SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 443 - 12/12/2023 08:52:59 2516424 Link
Replying To SurelyToGod: "The club member is tuned-in. Don't expect a rise in numbers should the convention go belly-up tomorrow." Any predictions for tomorrow night? peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1074 - 12/12/2023 09:57:34 2516433 Link
Replying To peiledoir20: "Any predictions for tomorrow night?" Hoping we'll see changes but more in hope than expectation. It all comes down to the clubs and if they are all talk and no action, which they very often are. PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 118 - 12/12/2023 10:28:08 2516450 Link
Replying To PeterQ92: "Hoping we'll see changes but more in hope than expectation. It all comes down to the clubs and if they are all talk and no action, which they very often are." What happened on the Zoom meeting last Friday night that McShea refers to in today's paper? Will that have any impact on proceedings? peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1074 - 12/12/2023 11:22:17 2516461 Link
Replying To PeterQ92: "Hoping we'll see changes but more in hope than expectation. It all comes down to the clubs and if they are all talk and no action, which they very often are." Clubs are only as good as their delegates and unfortunately in a lot of cases the same two people are sent year after year. I was our club delegate but only did that role for 3 years as I think it needs new people with new ideas but it was nearly impossible to get anyone to take my place. A lot of people complain that nothing changes but you need to get involved yourself to make change happen. Contributing to this forum is just complaining it's not actively creating change it's looking out and trying to find someone to blame. Change can only happen if people get involved in what they think needs changing. Whateveryourhavingyourself (Donegal) - Posts: 59 - 12/12/2023 11:24:56 2516462 Link
Replying To peiledoir20: "Any predictions for tomorrow night?" Wouldn't have much hope for tomorrow night. These people will have their ducks lined up, they know how it works for many years now. Hope I am wrong though. ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 747 - 12/12/2023 12:25:37 2516482 Link
Replying To Whateveryourhavingyourself: "Clubs are only as good as their delegates and unfortunately in a lot of cases the same two people are sent year after year. I was our club delegate but only did that role for 3 years as I think it needs new people with new ideas but it was nearly impossible to get anyone to take my place. A lot of people complain that nothing changes but you need to get involved yourself to make change happen. Contributing to this forum is just complaining it's not actively creating change it's looking out and trying to find someone to blame. Change can only happen if people get involved in what they think needs changing." True, the same faces will remain in and around the county executive unless new people step up and equally importantly club delegates then vote for change. I'd say many clubs have the same delegates year after year as very few people would be willing to take up the role. Would be interesting to know how many clubs have an actual meeting prior to convention to discuss and instruct their delegates on who to vote for or how many simply leave it to the delegates to decide. BeardedBorderGael (Donegal) - Posts: 49 - 12/12/2023 12:34:02 2516484 Link
Replying To ryan: "Wouldn't have much hope for tomorrow night. These people will have their ducks lined up, they know how it works for many years now. Hope I am wrong though." 100% - I wouldn't be optimistic about the outcome of tomorrow night. BeardedBorderGael (Donegal) - Posts: 49 - 12/12/2023 12:49:00 2516489 Link
Replying To beidhmeanseo: "2024 Mangers - by my could 19 clubs with out a Manager for the coming season. Dungloe - Dessie Gallagher Termon - not ratified, assume it is Caolan McDaid again? Red Hughs - Benny McDevitt Aodh Rua - ?? Ardara - Damian Devenney Burt - ?? Moville - ?? Buncrana - Gary Duffy Milford - James McGinley Carndonagh - ?? Glenswilly - ?? Kilcar - ?? Cloughaneely - Denis Doohan Fanad Gaels - ?? Letterkenny Gaels - ?? Gaoth Dobhair - Ronan Macnaillais Glenfin - Frank Ward?? Urris - ?? Malin - Michael Byrne? Naomh Padraig Uisce Chaoin - Daniel McAuley Killybegs - ?? Four Masters - Kevin Sinclair Downings - ?? Na Rossa - Declan Bonner St Eunans - Barry Meehan N Brid - ?? N Colmcille - ?? Naomh Columba - ?? Naomh Conaill- Martin Regab St Marys Convoy - Laurence McMullan Naomh Michael - Peter Sweeney?? N Muire - Danny Odonnell St Nauls - Stephen Griffen N Padraig Lifford - ?? Naomh Ultan - ?? Pettigo - ?? Bundoran - James Keaney Robert Emmetts - ?? Sean MacCumhaills - Gary Wilson" Trevor Alcorn going to Fanad.. Anybidy take in the u21 games at weekend? I see they have both games on Saturday in ODP. 1pm and 2,30pm.... very close to sunset tickets (Donegal) - Posts: 103 - 12/12/2023 13:38:56 2516495 Link
Replying To Champotime18: "All counties are the same. Is there anyone to run against ppl and if so surely the clubs will vote for the alternative? Or is it a case of man doing his best as nobody else will do it but will continue ti hurl from the ditch?" There have been candidates opposing in recent years but, and I might be wrong here, isn't there some element where the executive have more votes than the actual clubs when it comes to ratifying positions? I thought the system was rigged in effect but I'm open to being wrong on that. It's very often not a case of nobody else being willing, it's wrapped up in an old boys club in many cases. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1389 - 12/12/2023 13:55:32 2516498 Link
Replying To Donegal_abroad: "There have been candidates opposing in recent years but, and I might be wrong here, isn't there some element where the executive have more votes than the actual clubs when it comes to ratifying positions? I thought the system was rigged in effect but I'm open to being wrong on that. It's very often not a case of nobody else being willing, it's wrapped up in an old boys club in many cases." That's not the way it works. The executive get 1 vote each, a club gets 4. The minor boards regional board, CnaM etc get 1 vote each. SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 12/12/2023 14:17:24 2516501 Link
https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/1370001/mcsheas-say-petulance-egos-and-self-driven-agendasstill-hindering-donegal-gaa.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2dIGFkw5codP9RKN8iepbd2I2egw2M9yJ8pDqfoAjV1cCSGpJ1h3G-_cA Very truthful piece by Pauric McShea. I have found him to be on the money with his criticism in recent times. He just falls short of naming his own clubman as being the main culprit. SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 722 - 12/12/2023 14:29:54 2516505 Link
Replying To Donegal_abroad: "There have been candidates opposing in recent years but, and I might be wrong here, isn't there some element where the executive have more votes than the actual clubs when it comes to ratifying positions? I thought the system was rigged in effect but I'm open to being wrong on that. It's very often not a case of nobody else being willing, it's wrapped up in an old boys club in many cases." Yes that is my understanding too although I'm not clear on the detail. If these old dinosaurs had any self awareness they'd remove themselves. PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 118 - 12/12/2023 15:28:01 2516514 Link