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It's going to be a thankless job for Jim in a way. He will be ridiculed flat out. I don't think the players are there but I hope I'm wrong. It will be near the end of his 3/4 years if we do get close to winning an All Ireland I feel. With the likes of Mc Colgan, Grant, Curran developing over the years. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1194 - 21/08/2023 13:35:52 2501600 Link
Are we talking about Odhran MacNiallais again? Lads, let it go. Regarding the number of linesmen, we are getting what we deserve. The abuse we give them and then people wonder why there aren't more of them! This crisis was years in the making. SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 21/08/2023 13:49:17 2501602 Link
Replying To PeterQ92: "The irony of a county board unveiling McGuinness to clubs tonight, a county board who have been questioned by those same clubs and asked to consider their positions. Yes here they are, surviving, continuing and endlessly hanging on. Lets face it folks, they're going no-where." Brilliant to have McGuinness back involved and manager of the team. It will solve very little though if the academy is not sorted out with Lacey in charge and also there has to be massive changes at county board level. Damien Diver has an interview in the irish sun which is with reading for anyone interested. ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 747 - 21/08/2023 13:59:28 2501607 Link
It is unlikely he would have taken the job if he wasn't guaranteed that the Academy would be sorted out. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1126 - 21/08/2023 14:23:08 2501614 Link
Replying To PattyONeill: "Bringing back former managers doesn't always bring success. Eamonn Coleman returned to Derry for 4 seasons and wasn't as successful given that he didn't have the same talent to pick from." Aww well based on your eamonn Coleman precedent Jim shouldn't be bothering his hoop coming back..... totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1000 - 21/08/2023 16:05:41 2501639 Link
Replying To SignTheContract: "Are we talking about Odhran MacNiallais again? Lads, let it go. Regarding the number of linesmen, we are getting what we deserve. The abuse we give them and then people wonder why there aren't more of them! This crisis was years in the making." you're correct on the MacNiallais one. I wish people would stop talking about him, he stepped away for his own reasons, plenty of them far more important that football. He doesn't need people constantly asking whether he's coming back. That ship has sailed, good luck to him, I hope he's in a good place enjoying his club football. Time to look forward. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 586 - 21/08/2023 16:31:15 2501651 Link
I don't know what others are hearing, but I'm hearing that Lacey isn't interested in coming back to their Academy at all, no matter who is on the county board. Be a big loss. SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 21/08/2023 16:37:54 2501654 Link
Replying To SignTheContract: "Are we talking about Odhran MacNiallais again? Lads, let it go. Regarding the number of linesmen, we are getting what we deserve. The abuse we give them and then people wonder why there aren't more of them! This crisis was years in the making." Odhran is the most talented footballer we have. Get him fit and conditioned under Jim's leadership and he'd be the best. Can't give up on a player like that. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1194 - 21/08/2023 17:00:25 2501661 Link
Replying To SignTheContract: "I don't know what others are hearing, but I'm hearing that Lacey isn't interested in coming back to their Academy at all, no matter who is on the county board. Be a big loss." Lacey has done great work with the academy but at this stage the man should be let enjoy his own time now. He has no interest in going back, we need to get modern coaches back in now to get things up and running again. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1194 - 21/08/2023 17:02:50 2501663 Link
Replying To TheRock2121: "Odhran is the most talented footballer we have. Get him fit and conditioned under Jim's leadership and he'd be the best. Can't give up on a player like that." Takes a hell of a lot more than talent to be a modern day inter county footballer. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 586 - 21/08/2023 17:37:14 2501670 Link
Replying To TheRock2121: "Odhran is the most talented footballer we have. Get him fit and conditioned under Jim's leadership and he'd be the best. Can't give up on a player like that." Like you say below leave lacey alone same goes for mc Niallais! If they don't want back don't go begging I'm sure mc niallais has his reasons also .. Donegal will go on without both letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 168 - 21/08/2023 19:12:12 2501685 Link
Brilliant brilliant news from Convoy this evening, the man we all want to manage the senior team is back in charge, Neil McGee and Colm McFadden join the backroom team along with Luke Barret, after the year we've been through this is just the tonic the supporters needed, wishing Jim and the boys all the best and can't wait for the new season now. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3066 - 21/08/2023 20:42:55 2501691 Link
Replying To rorysboys: "Paddy Bradley one of the best coaches about. Says who. You're not hard to please lad. If the talent is as good as a lot of people are saying we should be looking to win all irelands in maybe two years. An Ulster will do first year. I'm all for Jim coming in but I'm only asking a question that people don't like to hear.. football has moved on this last ten years if you want to compete in croke park we need to find defenders who can go man to man and are good going forward. A few eoin bans wudnt go amiss. Hopefully we'll get a few in the upcoming championship. I really like Jamie grant I think he has everything to play for a man like Jim.. hope to see you out scouting about marty." I've always said there is plenty of talent within the County, people have to go to matches to see it. Timing of Jim being selected as the Donegal Manager again is perfect with the Senior Championship just beginning. Fantastic news this evening. We have to be optimistic that Donegal football is in safe hands again for the next 4 years at least. Neil and Colm will bring experience to the back room team as well. Roll on 2024..... Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 411 - 21/08/2023 21:16:14 2501694 Link
Whatever about linesmen, surely referees need to have neutral umpires with them for senior championship games. Was at a game at the weekend and a corner back was hanging out of a full forward for the entire game. Ref was oblivious and made life very easy for the corner back. This shouldn't be happening at senior level. A neutral umpire at each end would sort the situation. Also raises issues about borderline scores with club reps as umpires. This type of inconsistency causes a lot of the issues we see and result in further abuse for refs. ballboy101 (Donegal) - Posts: 225 - 21/08/2023 22:26:03 2501698 Link
The messiah returns. Glory be to the Gods. I believe Jim's appointment will improve everything, and I can see it pivoting the turgid displays we see at club level into something different, even if it was borne out of a poor attempt to emulate his methods, devoid of any original thinking of the coaches around the county. Frank Craig wrote an article after his most recent appointment and said ' Looking at what's available to him this time around, there are some players on the periphery of matters that will suddenly feel they've the engine to be a firm part of that. There might well be some established lads that suddenly feel vulnerable.' This definitely resonates. There will be a huge tapping of potential with most of the current available players, but I sense that at least one prominent player in the squad will be unable or unwilling, I'm not sure which to reach the basic fitness levels required in a McGuinness driven group. I believe that with the previous three management setups, that there were lads being continually named in starting line-ups that didn't merit their place. Those days will be confined to history please God as we look forward to a rise in fortunes once again with a setting of new standards. StockholmGael (Donegal) - Posts: 135 - 22/08/2023 07:00:27 2501710 Link
Replying To ballboy101: "Whatever about linesmen, surely referees need to have neutral umpires with them for senior championship games. Was at a game at the weekend and a corner back was hanging out of a full forward for the entire game. Ref was oblivious and made life very easy for the corner back. This shouldn't be happening at senior level. A neutral umpire at each end would sort the situation. Also raises issues about borderline scores with club reps as umpires. This type of inconsistency causes a lot of the issues we see and result in further abuse for refs." Definitely should have neutral umpires with the ref. Another point is the way ref's are appointed , we had games at the weekend where clubs travelled 2 hours from one end of the county to the other to get to a game and the ref was from the neighboring club to the home team. Not saying the ref would be biased, but it looks bad and unprofessional when u go into the hall for a cup of tea at half time and the ref, who lives up the road is sitting at a table laughing and joking with the home supporters. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 586 - 22/08/2023 12:13:59 2501751 Link
Replying To StockholmGael: "The messiah returns. Glory be to the Gods. I believe Jim's appointment will improve everything, and I can see it pivoting the turgid displays we see at club level into something different, even if it was borne out of a poor attempt to emulate his methods, devoid of any original thinking of the coaches around the county. Frank Craig wrote an article after his most recent appointment and said ' Looking at what's available to him this time around, there are some players on the periphery of matters that will suddenly feel they've the engine to be a firm part of that. There might well be some established lads that suddenly feel vulnerable.' This definitely resonates. There will be a huge tapping of potential with most of the current available players, but I sense that at least one prominent player in the squad will be unable or unwilling, I'm not sure which to reach the basic fitness levels required in a McGuinness driven group. I believe that with the previous three management setups, that there were lads being continually named in starting line-ups that didn't merit their place. Those days will be confined to history please God as we look forward to a rise in fortunes once again with a setting of new standards." Hopefully you are correct we no longer have these self appointed 'senior' players starting every game who aren't fit enough to play a full game greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 586 - 22/08/2023 12:18:17 2501755 Link
Kilcar folks - are the McCleans injured or not available? Also - do you think Stephen McBrearty could still be an option for the county? The talent is there but maybe county football just isn't for him? Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9541 - 22/08/2023 14:43:42 2501780 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Kilcar folks - are the McCleans injured or not available? Also - do you think Stephen McBrearty could still be an option for the county? The talent is there but maybe county football just isn't for him?" I thought Stephen had his chance with the seniors he just wasn't making the breakthrough at the time, I'm sure lots of players will be looked at again now, not sure what the story is with the McCleans. Some change from this time last year to the position we are in now with Jim back in charge, it will be fascinating now to see how he progresses the team, might take a few years before we are back among the really top teams again but with McGuinness there and the players he has to mould into the team he wants the potential is there to dream of winning the big one again. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3066 - 22/08/2023 16:13:28 2501807 Link
Delighted with appointment and wish them well. It's big lift for county that had tough year. Good to see they brought younger coaches in back room to try build out further. Bit of buzz going to games this weekend, be interesting to see the panel when it comes around. DonegalDanny92 (Donegal) - Posts: 39 - 22/08/2023 16:52:40 2501815 Link