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Feel sorry for Paddy Carr, seems to be a decent sort and wish him all the best for the future.

JUNIOR_B_SUB (Donegal) - Posts: 22 - 22/03/2023 20:56:19    2465928

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Thats a terrible mess but it comes as no surprise after Sean Cavanaghs words on air on Sunday night. It appears that he's got the inside story right and that there's terrible unrest there.
It's too bad for counties when a few big egos / big wigs with way outdated ideas can hold a county of talented players to ransom just because this person and their cronies wants to be in control.
I haven't a clue who is who or what in Donegal nor have I any interest jn the inside politics but I think it happens too often in too many places.
An officer on a county board/ committee should only be allowed to hold office for at most 2 years. Successful ex county player should certainly be allowed play bigger roles in the selection of team managements and backroom teams.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 887 - 22/03/2023 21:39:23    2465933

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Csssidy fairly put the boot into Jim with that tweet. Jim, Lacey and Murphy coming in would be great but it won't happen. I wouldn't throw out all of the Co Board but I would throw 5 out but I won't name them here.
In my mind, this is even worse than Cross in 2010.

SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 105 - 22/03/2023 21:48:05    2465934

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If there isn't a clear out of the County Board now there never will be. I don't think even their most stringent critics could of imagined them making a mess of this magnitude. Everything they've touched is crumbling.

I hope the clubs have characters strong enough to do the right thing here. We have an opportunity to put in place proper governance with qualified ambitious men and woman. Get the right people back on board, with the right structures to give us the best shot of a bright future, or we cower.

ninety-two (Donegal) - Posts: 25 - 23/03/2023 08:44:48    2465938

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At this stage I don't know whether to laugh or cry. One thing for sure is after reading Alan Foley's excellent summary of events my blood is boiling. The sheer arrogance of this lot is astounding. Treating local press who are trying to do a day's work with total disrespect.

Irony is a word that is lost on them. They've set up this meeting tonight "to address recent media/publications surrounding the Academy and other related matters raised in these media/publications" Yet, local media requests to attend this "special" meeting were immediately shot down. You couldn't make it up. It's literally out of the playbook of some right-wing government who seek to control the narrative.

The fact that they set up this meeting with hardly any notice is sneaky as well. It gave clubs little to no time to organise their own meetings beforehand, where club members could vent their frustrations and behoove their club delegate to ask the tough questions that need to be asked tonight and to demand action. I don't think it would be unreasonable for every club delegate to demand a vote of no confidence in the current executive tonight. They've presided over this abomination and we're an embarrassment nationally. In any other walk of life/business heads would have rolled a long time ago.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8527 - 23/03/2023 08:54:48    2465942

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Listening to Highland Radio Brendan Devenney he seems to be a spokesman for the coaching officer saying he is the most highly rated coach in Ireland and we should be so happy that he is involved at no expence to the county.

neutral (None) - Posts: 358 - 23/03/2023 09:49:30    2465946

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I'm sad to hear Paddy Carr resigned, an All Ireland club winning manager who never really got a proper crack at this job.

He got the job really late and missed the Club Championship, he had to assemble a backroom team last minute and didn't have a great turn out of players for early sessions.

I'm not one bit surprised by the league results, I said that to people after the Kerry game that it was a pleasant surprise, but that those might be the only points we get this campaign, as it was a frail looking squad and tougher assignments lay ahead and we could end up losing every single match.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 958 - 23/03/2023 09:50:38    2465947

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "I was attacked by 2 posters on here when I said Devenney was on side with the coaching officer in question. I was attacked on here when I said Jim was ready to help with more than one coaching ticket. I am delighted it's all coming out. This executive won't survive the year. A big change is coming for the better of football in Donegal."
Hi TheFlaker: Devenney on Greg Hughes show now, he only referenced 1 member of the county board and that was the coaching officer and he was very high in praise for him. You have been proved correct once again.

AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 595 - 23/03/2023 09:54:29    2465948

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It is hard to make sense of it all

highdropingball (Donegal) - Posts: 51 - 23/03/2023 09:54:53    2465949

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Replying To rorysboys:  "We need an interim management to finish the year. Get bonner Murphy.Mc Guinness and Lacey together to try and get things up and running. Times short but no manager will come in at this stage. Disappointing for paddy he was given the short straw. Poor man."
I think Aidan O'Rourke and Paddy Bradley will have to take the team to Championship, I can't see there being enough time for an interim manager to make a difference, we have only 4 weeks roughly to Championship.

Ulster Championship 23rd April

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 958 - 23/03/2023 10:02:02    2465950

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https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/1067969/comment-piece-donegal-debacle-shows-that-silence-proves-anything-but-golden.html

absolutely damning of how the CB operates in Donegal. Please god the clubs finally take a stand

CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 73 - 23/03/2023 10:35:09    2465952

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Replying To muckla:  "Back to the days of old with Donegal. McGuiness and Murphy to steady the ship. Mcguiness performed miracles before but almost ruined football along the way. I am not looking forward to seeing him back to do it again."
I've seen this trotted out here and elsewhere on social media. Do you really think Jim McGuinness would come back on board and adopt the same tactics that he used before? Ridiculous. It's an entirely different set of players for one. Do you think he's that stupid or tactcially inept that he hasn't noticed that the changes in gaelic football over the last decade? How Dublin worked out how to beat a blanket defence? It's a very lazy analysis to assume Jim would just come back in and try to repeat to what worked before.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8527 - 23/03/2023 11:41:44    2465957

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Replying To SouthOfTheGap:  "I see he has released a statement confirming. He mentions having met with Senior Players.

I'm genuinely sorry it as come to this. The onus is now on the players to demand excellence. And I hope that doesn't include Aidan O'Rourke and Paddy Bradley."
How come O Rourke and Bradley are not needed in their own Counties management teams?
What makes you think they good enough to be involved with Donegal?
There plenty of Coaches / Managers within the county that could easily work together
The CB are not blameless either
It's weeks since Lacey left , yet the meeting is tonight.

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 417 - 23/03/2023 11:44:23    2465958

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Big night for the future of Donegal GAA tonight , but I dont expect much coming out of the meeting, no comment for the present, expected answer.

Another thing the Senior players who spoke with Paddy Carr and told him they were unhappy with his as Manager should also issue a statement giving their reasons for not wanting him. Was at game on Sunday and none of so called Senior players did much on the field against Mayo.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 349 - 23/03/2023 12:12:50    2465969

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I'd be stunned if this meeting goes ahead tonight. Rumours circulating that a member of the executive has left his post. Paddy Carr's announcement yesterday added to the mix will have left them reeling. I feel sorry for the Chariman, a good servant to Donegal down the years and these issues had little to with him and more to do with the previous regime.

The people that are calling for revolution on here could get it. But who is interested in these roles? I would have like to see McGonigle involved but it was always unrealistic for him to come straight in at the top having never been involved in the executive before as clubs didn't maybe know him. Would he get involved now if a few spots open?

SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 105 - 23/03/2023 12:22:35    2465970

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I've seen this trotted out here and elsewhere on social media. Do you really think Jim McGuinness would come back on board and adopt the same tactics that he used before? Ridiculous. It's an entirely different set of players for one. Do you think he's that stupid or tactcially inept that he hasn't noticed that the changes in gaelic football over the last decade? How Dublin worked out how to beat a blanket defence? It's a very lazy analysis to assume Jim would just come back in and try to repeat to what worked before."
McGuiness has said ad naseum in the press that after going through the process of getting his UEFA Pro Licence that he is looking to have a go at soccer coaching but he would be willing to help.
McGuiness will not be coming back to Donegal football but if the right people were in place he would assist where needed.

KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 262 - 23/03/2023 12:33:59    2465975

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Very disappointing to be reading the turmoil up in your county.

What Donegal achieved across the 10s was extraordinary.

You often hear of the disadvantages seen in rural Ireland, small playing populations, travel distances, training being distributed due to socio economic issues and plenty of other justified problems

Donegal laughed in the face of that and not only produced Great players, but played some outstanding football when they became a more balanced side

Best of luck sorting the mess, you're a great footballing county and deserve so much better than what is currently going on.

Desperate to see and hopefully it can be put right. If not vote with your feet as a county and do what's necessary to eject those responsible, no better people to do that very thing

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20484 - 23/03/2023 12:34:13    2465976

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "Not a hope in hell of those 4 ever working together.
You sure you're a Donegal man at all coming out with a statement like that. Sounds a dream team but if you know anything about Donegal football politics you'd know it wouldn't happen"
Here goes again another expert from outside the county giving his opinion. I know more about the ins and outs of Donegal football than somebody like yourself . As I said I'm not saying they should be the next management team, I would try and get them together to see this year out and steady the ship. I can tell you this bonner, lacey. Mc Guinness and Murphy are not at loggerheads . What's your reason for saying if I knew anything about Donegal football politics I would know that won't happen. I await your response

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1962 - 23/03/2023 12:34:40    2465977

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If it is true that the players got rid of Carr does that mean they are happy with O'Rourke and Bradley seeing they are staying on.Like everything else Carr's statement doesn't tell us much.We now need a statement from the leader of the players telling us what part they played in his exit.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 955 - 23/03/2023 12:36:49    2465978

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I wonder did the fact that Paddy Carr played Gallen even though injured and he only lasted a few minutes, then take another few minutes to get a replacement on, have anything to do with the players upset

KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 262 - 23/03/2023 12:38:38    2465981

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