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Replying To Spinx:  "Back in the 90's for a few years we had 6 intermediate and 6 junior teams. One from each grade amalgamated to play in a Senior B Championship with the winner of that going on to play in the Senior Championship."
During the 1970's Intermediate clubs used to form amalgamations to play in a qualifier series with winner playing in the Senior Championship (i.e. Killoe-Connollys, Killoe-Abbeylara, Forgney-Legan, Killashee-Shroid, Dromard-Colmcille, Dromard-Fr. Manning Gaels, Carrickedmond-Forgney, Carrickedmond-Kenagh and others). I don't know when exactly that ended, but it wasn't a bad idea. There was then Senior B as you rightly mentioned, but that was also going on during the 1980's too. Junior clubs used to combine the odd time to play in Intermediate back in the 1970's too. Mullinalaghta and Fr. Manning Gaels combined to win the 1973 Intermediate title when both were Junior clubs.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 21/11/2022 19:16:38    2448366

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Did Colmcille seek a postponement and County Board said no, so Colmcille then conceded the game?"
We were only told the evening before the game was due to be played that it was off. I think the game was awarded rather than conceded but we had no input in the matter at any point.

TurnipAyter (Longford) - Posts: 137 - 21/11/2022 21:21:25    2448375

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Any news on managers lads?

Garmin (Longford) - Posts: 38 - 22/11/2022 12:28:58    2448405

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John Twaddle is over Clonguish.
Killoe are looking as are Cashel and Ardagh/Moydow.
Rathcline management undecided on whether they will stay another year.

Oddball (Roscommon) - Posts: 813 - 22/11/2022 13:22:56    2448416

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Replying To Oddball:  "John Twaddle is over Clonguish.
Killoe are looking as are Cashel and Ardagh/Moydow.
Rathcline management undecided on whether they will stay another year."
Twaddle is coaching Clonguish. Manager from last year staying on with Twaddle in as coach.

ball1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 8 - 22/11/2022 15:25:17    2448439

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Replying To Garmin:  "Any news on managers lads?"
Ferghal ODonnell mentioned in Killoe as well as Crosserlough manager Jimmy Higgins

ball1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 8 - 22/11/2022 15:31:04    2448440

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Replying To ball1:  "Ferghal ODonnell mentioned in Killoe as well as Crosserlough manager Jimmy Higgins"
Fergal O'Donnell was Killoe manager in 2017 and 2018 (didn't get past quarter finals in either year). He only signed with Tourlestrane back in February, and won the Sligo championship with them this year, so i'd be surprised if he is going anywhere (link).

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 22/11/2022 16:30:21    2448447

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Replying To ball1:  "Twaddle is coaching Clonguish. Manager from last year staying on with Twaddle in as coach."
You could be right. I know Kevin Burke coached them last year but had not intended on doing it. He only took it as the management team changed so late in pre-season. Surprised Twaddle isn't getting the main job at some clubs in the county considering the good work he did with Moate. Is Thomas Donoghue in as a selector with the county?

Oddball (Roscommon) - Posts: 813 - 22/11/2022 18:12:53    2448460

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Was across at Clonguish and Edgeworthtown Balinalee last night in the u21 semi final.
Clonguish never looked like they were going to be bet. I think i counted 8 players from the St.Mels team playing for Clonguish. Serious achievement for these young lads to be dominating u21. Along with Jack Duggan who had a big influence on the scoreboard

ball1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 8 - 24/11/2022 08:39:23    2448572

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Replying To ball1:  "Was across at Clonguish and Edgeworthtown Balinalee last night in the u21 semi final.
Clonguish never looked like they were going to be bet. I think i counted 8 players from the St.Mels team playing for Clonguish. Serious achievement for these young lads to be dominating u21. Along with Jack Duggan who had a big influence on the scoreboard"
Clonguish won the last two Minor Championships, the last three Juvenile Championships and three of last four U13/U14 Championships, so winning U21 this year is almost inevitable. Good to see Granard in the final from the other side of the draw, been a long time since they won it, but I think Clonguish are too strong at the moment and should take their first U21 title since 2017. I suspect if the competition had been played over the past two years, Clonguish would have won one, if not both. A green wave is coming (if they keep their heads)!

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 24/11/2022 10:05:07    2448577

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Clonguish won the last two Minor Championships, the last three Juvenile Championships and three of last four U13/U14 Championships, so winning U21 this year is almost inevitable. Good to see Granard in the final from the other side of the draw, been a long time since they won it, but I think Clonguish are too strong at the moment and should take their first U21 title since 2017. I suspect if the competition had been played over the past two years, Clonguish would have won one, if not both. A green wave is coming (if they keep their heads)!"
It can't be underestimated how young the team is though. I'm open to correction, but 7 players off the team are u17 with another 4 years at this age group. They had 1 official u21 player playing last night i think. Wining minor championships and juveniles at their own age group was to be expected but to be able to do it 4 years out of their age group is some telling! Clonguish may go on to win the u21 in Longford for the next 4/5 years at least!

ball1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 8 - 24/11/2022 10:24:26    2448581

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Replying To ball1:  "It can't be underestimated how young the team is though. I'm open to correction, but 7 players off the team are u17 with another 4 years at this age group. They had 1 official u21 player playing last night i think. Wining minor championships and juveniles at their own age group was to be expected but to be able to do it 4 years out of their age group is some telling! Clonguish may go on to win the u21 in Longford for the next 4/5 years at least!"
Dromard did 5 in a row at Under 21 back in 2005 to 2009.
They only won 2 Senior Championships in that time frame, 2005 and 2007.
I think you are getting ahead of yourself though as Clonguish haven't won one yet.
And as we have seen from Granard in the 90's and Dromard of the mid to late noughties a team can dwindle away.
Between college, working away and emigrating, no one can tell what can be won by any one club in the future.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1040 - 24/11/2022 11:42:44    2448594

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Replying To Spinx:  "Dromard did 5 in a row at Under 21 back in 2005 to 2009.
They only won 2 Senior Championships in that time frame, 2005 and 2007.
I think you are getting ahead of yourself though as Clonguish haven't won one yet.
And as we have seen from Granard in the 90's and Dromard of the mid to late noughties a team can dwindle away.
Between college, working away and emigrating, no one can tell what can be won by any one club in the future."
And that is why i never mentioned a Senior championship you can read it again Spinx.

ball1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 8 - 24/11/2022 12:19:44    2448599

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Replying To Spinx:  "Dromard did 5 in a row at Under 21 back in 2005 to 2009.
They only won 2 Senior Championships in that time frame, 2005 and 2007.
I think you are getting ahead of yourself though as Clonguish haven't won one yet.
And as we have seen from Granard in the 90's and Dromard of the mid to late noughties a team can dwindle away.
Between college, working away and emigrating, no one can tell what can be won by any one club in the future."
This is exactly it, no one knows what is going to happen. Talk of a "green wave" is disingenuous hype building from outside, like what tabloids do, build you up to tear you down. There is a massive step up from underage to senior along with college and emigration factors that make none of this certain. Winning it this year with the exceptionally young group we have would be a great achievement.

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 75 - 24/11/2022 12:34:34    2448604

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Replying To ball1:  "And that is why i never mentioned a Senior championship you can read it again Spinx."
I didn't say you mentioned senior.
My point is, underage dominance does not translate into senior dominance years later.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1040 - 24/11/2022 13:27:05    2448612

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Replying To ball1:  "And that is why i never mentioned a Senior championship you can read it again Spinx."
You said they may go on to win a few more under 21's, I was just merely pointing out that this team has not won one title let alone 3 or 4!

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1040 - 24/11/2022 13:28:55    2448613

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Clonguish won the last two Minor Championships, the last three Juvenile Championships and three of last four U13/U14 Championships, so winning U21 this year is almost inevitable. Good to see Granard in the final from the other side of the draw, been a long time since they won it, but I think Clonguish are too strong at the moment and should take their first U21 title since 2017. I suspect if the competition had been played over the past two years, Clonguish would have won one, if not both. A green wave is coming (if they keep their heads)!"
A "Green Wave". I seem to remember back in 2004, I think when Clonguish put back to back county titles together, their captain in his post match acceptance speech, mentioned, 'This is the second leg in our 5 in a row'......The Drive for 5 was stalled the following year and hasn't really taken off ever since.

B&G (Longford) - Posts: 205 - 24/11/2022 13:47:00    2448614

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Replying To B&G:  "A "Green Wave". I seem to remember back in 2004, I think when Clonguish put back to back county titles together, their captain in his post match acceptance speech, mentioned, 'This is the second leg in our 5 in a row'......The Drive for 5 was stalled the following year and hasn't really taken off ever since."
Indeed. It's tricky to transition from successful underage to successful senior when lads arrive with pockets already full of medals. Lots of examples rightly cited by others here of failures to launch in the past by other clubs. The talent is clearly there in Clonguish. If they can keep their heads and the crew around them can manage the transition properly, they will be a force in senior. The examples of how to do it (and not do it) are all there to see. Certainly one to watch for those interested in seeing a talented group make the breakthrough, regardless of whether it is your own club or not.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 24/11/2022 14:44:07    2448620

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Replying To B&G:  "A "Green Wave". I seem to remember back in 2004, I think when Clonguish put back to back county titles together, their captain in his post match acceptance speech, mentioned, 'This is the second leg in our 5 in a row'......The Drive for 5 was stalled the following year and hasn't really taken off ever since."
That was one of the most twisted headlines from the Longford Leader and extremely unfair reporting from the journalist at the time. He thanked the management team for the three years of service they had given and hoped they would stay for another three years. Then the Leader says Clonguish going for 5 in a row. Tabloid reporting at best!!

As for the u21 final, I haven't seen either team in action yet but I'd say Clonguish will be going in as heavy favourites and should win. Granard will be looking for big performances from Michael Hynes and Jordan Shields. Jamie Brady is another man who can do damage but Clonguish just have too much on paper. Granard probably aren't even the 3rd best team in the competition. I'd say both Clonbroney/Wolfe Tones and Killoe are better teams.

backtoback2 (Longford) - Posts: 10 - 24/11/2022 15:57:32    2448631

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Replying To B&G:  "A "Green Wave". I seem to remember back in 2004, I think when Clonguish put back to back county titles together, their captain in his post match acceptance speech, mentioned, 'This is the second leg in our 5 in a row'......The Drive for 5 was stalled the following year and hasn't really taken off ever since."
He said nothing of the sort but don't let facts get in the way of you

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 75 - 24/11/2022 16:48:20    2448637

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