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Replying To Spinx:  "@LiosBreac.....I didn't want to hog a national post with a Longford question. Going back to that county stats website, you said Killoe were credited with the first 4 in a row? Where is that? When I looked Clonguish were the only ones down to doing 4 in a row."
I can't find it either. Nor can I find 3 in a row claim.

I did find the bit where they show the 1912 title was incorrect and removed what had been the first ever 3 in a row (Killoe 1911-1913) which had stood in official records for over a century before that. So Granard people will actually be pleased because they now have the first ever 3 in a row of senior titles which they didn't have before that work was done.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 04/11/2022 14:16:59    2446496

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "I can't find it either. Nor can I find 3 in a row claim.

I did find the bit where they show the 1912 title was incorrect and removed what had been the first ever 3 in a row (Killoe 1911-1913) which had stood in official records for over a century before that. So Granard people will actually be pleased because they now have the first ever 3 in a row of senior titles which they didn't have before that work was done."
That is an interesting one "LongfordgaaAbú", since my post and now yours the wording has changed on the "Longford GAA Story" page. It previously had the wording "Killoe Young Emmets was the dominant team of the 1910's winning Senior Football Championships in 1911, 1913 and 1915 and becoming the first club to win 3-in-a-row and 4-in-a-row across 1907, 1911, 1913 and 1915". Sound familiar? Miraculously since my post here that wording has changed completely. Strange coincidence but good to see nonetheless that any claim against what Granard and Clonguish achieved has been withdrawn!

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 75 - 04/11/2022 14:32:11    2446500

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "That is an interesting one "LongfordgaaAbú", since my post and now yours the wording has changed on the "Longford GAA Story" page. It previously had the wording "Killoe Young Emmets was the dominant team of the 1910's winning Senior Football Championships in 1911, 1913 and 1915 and becoming the first club to win 3-in-a-row and 4-in-a-row across 1907, 1911, 1913 and 1915". Sound familiar? Miraculously since my post here that wording has changed completely. Strange coincidence but good to see nonetheless that any claim against what Granard and Clonguish achieved has been withdrawn!"
I've simply replied to what I found when i looked at your posts today and then looked at that site to find your claim. Just like another poster from yesterday, I couldn't find it. You do know that other people probably read this forum too - its not just for me and you? I might see one of the lads behind that stats site this weekend so I will ask him if he heard anything from you or anyone over your way since it went up earlier in the year. Site has been there since start of the year, so I'm going to assume you eventually got around to flagging all those inaccuracies you mentioned on the other thread, or do you just like the trolling bit rather than the meaningful engagement bit?

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 04/11/2022 15:22:19    2446506

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U21 B final on Sunday in the park. Fancy Carrick Sarsfields to win it. Assuming Ballymahon/Kenagh don't beat Slashers and Granard beat Colmcille this weekend, it will be Clonbroney/WolfeTones v Killoe and Clonguish v Granard in the U21 A semi finals next weekend. I'm sticking with my prediction of Clonguish to win it.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 04/11/2022 15:30:18    2446507

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No one in Killoe has ever claimed a 3 or 4 in a row until that site did. Our official site certainly doesn't. I am not a fan of this aggro towards Killoe here, people need to bear in mind that those fellas do not represent the killoe club. There is full respect for what that great Clonguish and Granard team achieved.

Rhyne_Stonecowboy (Longford) - Posts: 48 - 05/11/2022 11:07:01    2446540

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Ballymahon/Kenagh beat Slashers. Be an interesting game next weekend between Clonguish and the amalgamation. Clonguish have the chance to do one on Killoe like they did a few years back in Senior. Downside to doing that though, is finishing second and meeting the other stronger amalgamation in the semis.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1040 - 05/11/2022 13:40:32    2446553

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "U21 B final on Sunday in the park. Fancy Carrick Sarsfields to win it. Assuming Ballymahon/Kenagh don't beat Slashers and Granard beat Colmcille this weekend, it will be Clonbroney/WolfeTones v Killoe and Clonguish v Granard in the U21 A semi finals next weekend. I'm sticking with my prediction of Clonguish to win it."
If Ballymahon/Kenagh beat Clonguish, then i believe that they go through along with Clonguish. Game this weekend is going to be very interesting. Killoe would be red hot favourites should they get to semi final...

honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 23 - 07/11/2022 09:45:26    2446699

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Was the leader cup final played yet?

JimmyNail (Leitrim) - Posts: 115 - 07/11/2022 13:17:50    2446741

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "I've simply replied to what I found when i looked at your posts today and then looked at that site to find your claim. Just like another poster from yesterday, I couldn't find it. You do know that other people probably read this forum too - its not just for me and you? I might see one of the lads behind that stats site this weekend so I will ask him if he heard anything from you or anyone over your way since it went up earlier in the year. Site has been there since start of the year, so I'm going to assume you eventually got around to flagging all those inaccuracies you mentioned on the other thread, or do you just like the trolling bit rather than the meaningful engagement bit?"
You were the one promoting the site here and all I did was reply to you. Pointing out the inaccuracies and assumptions presented as facts is not trolling just because you happen to be extremely close to the site. It looks like I do not need to contact the site anyway as as soon as I post here changes are immediately made!

Regarding the U21 match at the weekend Spinx, the potential for that scenario has been noticed. I am sure there would be some Hannibals out there who would "love it if that plan came together"

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 75 - 08/11/2022 18:05:54    2446904

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "You were the one promoting the site here and all I did was reply to you. Pointing out the inaccuracies and assumptions presented as facts is not trolling just because you happen to be extremely close to the site. It looks like I do not need to contact the site anyway as as soon as I post here changes are immediately made!

Regarding the U21 match at the weekend Spinx, the potential for that scenario has been noticed. I am sure there would be some Hannibals out there who would "love it if that plan came together""
That website is all over the place

williesboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 226 - 08/11/2022 20:27:20    2446913

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Replying To JimmyNail:  "Was the leader cup final played yet?"
Mullinalaghta got a walkover to take the title.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 10/11/2022 11:51:55    2447074

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With the season almost over and only 4 football games left to play with little chance of any being conceded, it is worth looking back at the year in conceded games using fixtures details from the county site. Here is how the picture for 2022 looks for those who conceded games this year...

63 football games conceded

Clonguish = 9
Longford Slashers = 8
St. Brigids Killashee = 5
Grattan Óg = 3
Mullinalaghta St. Columba's = 3
Rathcline = 3
Carrick Sarfields = 2
Cashel = 2
Clonbroney = 2
Colmcille = 2
Fr. Manning Gaels = 2
Killoe Óg = 2
Mostrim = 2
Northern Gaels = 2
St. Colmcilles = 2
St. Francis = 2
St. Patricks Óg = 2
St. Vincents = 2
St. Vincents/Northern Gaels = 2
Ardagh Moydow = 1
Ballymahon Forgney Gaels = 1
Clonbroney/Wolfe Tones = 1
Granard = 1
Kenagh = 1
Wolfe Tones Óg = 1

There was reference to specific conceded games on here a few months ago, so it is useful to see the context and split of what actually happened this year with conceded games. (This is club football only and doesn't include the recent Dromard Junior tournament).

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 10/11/2022 12:01:38    2447076

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Replying To Rhyne_Stonecowboy:  "No one in Killoe has ever claimed a 3 or 4 in a row until that site did. Our official site certainly doesn't. I am not a fan of this aggro towards Killoe here, people need to bear in mind that those fellas do not represent the killoe club. There is full respect for what that great Clonguish and Granard team achieved."
The stats site doesn't claim it either. In fact the work of that site removed the first 3 in row which had been assigned to Killoe for over a century in official records (you can see it in any county final match programme prior to 2014 or any Longford GAA history book or yearbook), and assigned that first 3 in a row to Granard instead. So what's going on here is just basic trolling. I would ignore.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 10/11/2022 12:06:38    2447078

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "The stats site doesn't claim it either. In fact the work of that site removed the first 3 in row which had been assigned to Killoe for over a century in official records (you can see it in any county final match programme prior to 2014 or any Longford GAA history book or yearbook), and assigned that first 3 in a row to Granard instead. So what's going on here is just basic trolling. I would ignore."
It doesn't anymore. It did until it was changed directly after my post here calling out the revisionism nonsense. I quoted what was there word for word! This change does not appear in the "change log" though, so much for maximum transparency!

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 75 - 10/11/2022 12:45:01    2447081

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Well the Clonguish v Ballymahon/Kenagh game went as expected. I'd say Killoe are probably regretting what they did a few years ago as Clonguish wouldn't of been a threat in the Senior Championship that year, whereas their U-21's had a good chance of winning it this year. Be interesting now to see who makes the final.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1040 - 13/11/2022 14:47:41    2447375

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "With the season almost over and only 4 football games left to play with little chance of any being conceded, it is worth looking back at the year in conceded games using fixtures details from the county site. Here is how the picture for 2022 looks for those who conceded games this year...

63 football games conceded

Clonguish = 9
Longford Slashers = 8
St. Brigids Killashee = 5
Grattan Óg = 3
Mullinalaghta St. Columba's = 3
Rathcline = 3
Carrick Sarfields = 2
Cashel = 2
Clonbroney = 2
Colmcille = 2
Fr. Manning Gaels = 2
Killoe Óg = 2
Mostrim = 2
Northern Gaels = 2
St. Colmcilles = 2
St. Francis = 2
St. Patricks Óg = 2
St. Vincents = 2
St. Vincents/Northern Gaels = 2
Ardagh Moydow = 1
Ballymahon Forgney Gaels = 1
Clonbroney/Wolfe Tones = 1
Granard = 1
Kenagh = 1
Wolfe Tones Óg = 1

There was reference to specific conceded games on here a few months ago, so it is useful to see the context and split of what actually happened this year with conceded games. (This is club football only and doesn't include the recent Dromard Junior tournament). "
You can add that Clonguish v Ballymahon/ Kenagh U21 match to your list of conceded games

Rhyne_Stonecowboy (Longford) - Posts: 48 - 13/11/2022 17:39:35    2447403

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Replying To Spinx:  "Well the Clonguish v Ballymahon/Kenagh game went as expected. I'd say Killoe are probably regretting what they did a few years ago as Clonguish wouldn't of been a threat in the Senior Championship that year, whereas their U-21's had a good chance of winning it this year. Be interesting now to see who makes the final."
Ah it's bad form for a club to field a weakened side to get one over another club.

williesboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 226 - 13/11/2022 17:47:59    2447406

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U21 semi finals are...

Clonbroney/Wolfe Tones v Clonguish (in Ballinalee)
Ballymahon/Kenagh v Granard (in Kenagh)

Both at 1:30 next Sunday. Lets see how it pans out.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 13/11/2022 18:20:46    2447414

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Replying To williesboy:  "Ah it's bad form for a club to field a weakened side to get one over another club."
Did they field a weakened team? If they did it was up to them. Nothing to play for and why risk the chances of injuries on heavy pitches when they have a semi-final to play. Killoe have themselves to blame as they should have beaten a very poor Slashers team. Killoe can't complain too much about Clonguish performance today considering what they did a few years back and blantantly throw a game to knock out Clonguish. Best of luck to the 4 remaining teams. A lot of people know I have no sympathy for Killoe after what happened between themselves and the Gaels back in 97.......we still remember and will never forget.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1040 - 13/11/2022 18:23:38    2447415

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I wonder do other counties do bitterness and long term grudges over club matches the way some in our county do? Or maybe it is just a function of this particular forum and a few posters on it. Must be tricky to walk around all the time with that much of a chip on your shoulder. Can't be much fun. But there we are.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 257 - 13/11/2022 18:57:25    2447420

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