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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Source?"
From the ref himself. Admitted he made a human error. Its going to the Longford CCC tomorrow and i imagine Mullinalaghta will be determined the match winner and hence group winners. Carrick will be elimated and Dromard will qualify. What happens after that, who knows? I'm sure Carrick won't take it lying down and will lodge some form of counter appeal. Things will probably be delayed.

maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 211 - 05/09/2024 10:17:30    2568531

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Replying To maximus02:  "From the ref himself. Admitted he made a human error. Its going to the Longford CCC tomorrow and i imagine Mullinalaghta will be determined the match winner and hence group winners. Carrick will be elimated and Dromard will qualify. What happens after that, who knows? I'm sure Carrick won't take it lying down and will lodge some form of counter appeal. Things will probably be delayed."
I have it from a Carrickedmond clubman that if the match is awarded to Mullinalaghta they have a counter appeal ready for submission. I don't think the quarter finals will be played next week

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 255 - 05/09/2024 12:10:12    2568566

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "I have it from a Carrickedmond clubman that if the match is awarded to Mullinalaghta they have a counter appeal ready for submission. I don't think the quarter finals will be played next week"
Yeah, my guess is that the CCC will give Mullinalaghta the victory. Carrick will lodge a counter appeal and it will end up with the DRA. They will determine if Mull won or should the game remain a draw. There will be no replay as that would be a punishment on Mullinalaghta. Things may be delayed a week.

maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 211 - 05/09/2024 12:54:08    2568572

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If Mullinalaghta are declared the winner, does that mean Carrickedmond and Slashers need a playoff to decide who finishes 5th & 6th and therefore who plays who in the relegation games?

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 580 - 05/09/2024 13:58:14    2568582

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "If Mullinalaghta are declared the winner, does that mean Carrickedmond and Slashers need a playoff to decide who finishes 5th & 6th and therefore who plays who in the relegation games?"
Carrick have a better scoring difference than slashers so they'll be 5th in that case. The only definite is slashers will play Mostrim in one of the relegation matches.

Bluelake (Westmeath) - Posts: 185 - 05/09/2024 14:30:24    2568590

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Replying To Bluelake:  "Carrick have a better scoring difference than slashers so they'll be 5th in that case. The only definite is slashers will play Mostrim in one of the relegation matches."
The bye laws are not clear on whether the rules only relate to 3+ teams or also where there are only 2 teams involved. It would appear that a play off is required as for some unknown reason nobody thought that overall score difference would be useful as a final resort before another fixture in an already crammed calendar

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 255 - 05/09/2024 16:22:09    2568609

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "The bye laws are not clear on whether the rules only relate to 3+ teams or also where there are only 2 teams involved. It would appear that a play off is required as for some unknown reason nobody thought that overall score difference would be useful as a final resort before another fixture in an already crammed calendar"
If you're right and that is the case, then that's pure stupidity. Should have been thought out especially with for a county where there isn't much between several teams.

Bluelake (Westmeath) - Posts: 185 - 05/09/2024 17:44:18    2568622

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Replying To Bluelake:  "Carrick have a better scoring difference than slashers so they'll be 5th in that case. The only definite is slashers will play Mostrim in one of the relegation matches."
Not sure I agree. Head to head applies if two teams on same points, but they drew in their group game so that doesn't work. They also scored 1-11 apiece in that game, so none of the other bye-laws which apply to scores in games between the teams tied on same points (not overall score difference etc), would apply either. The only one that applies in that scenario is a play-off.

That's my reading of it - Happy to be corrected.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 580 - 05/09/2024 19:47:17    2568632

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Not sure I agree. Head to head applies if two teams on same points, but they drew in their group game so that doesn't work. They also scored 1-11 apiece in that game, so none of the other bye-laws which apply to scores in games between the teams tied on same points (not overall score difference etc), would apply either. The only one that applies in that scenario is a play-off.

That's my reading of it - Happy to be corrected."
If that's the way it works then fair enough but it's pure stupid not to have overall scoring difference for something like that

Bluelake (Westmeath) - Posts: 185 - 05/09/2024 21:53:41    2568647

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Just a thought but Carrickedmond surely cant be totally blameless either, with nearly every team having a dedicated stats person on the line they surely knew the correct score at half-time but were happy to go with the referees mistake as it made their job a little easier.
One unintended consequence of this for the rest of the championship is that referees may delay all restarts after a score so that there will be no more bookkeeping errors!

keepitlit (Longford) - Posts: 39 - 06/09/2024 10:13:51    2568675

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Replying To keepitlit:  "Just a thought but Carrickedmond surely cant be totally blameless either, with nearly every team having a dedicated stats person on the line they surely knew the correct score at half-time but were happy to go with the referees mistake as it made their job a little easier.
One unintended consequence of this for the rest of the championship is that referees may delay all restarts after a score so that there will be no more bookkeeping errors!"
I would agree with this, the team that should lose out IMO is Carrickedmond as harsh as it may seem.

maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 211 - 06/09/2024 10:44:54    2568676

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Replying To maximus02:  "I would agree with this, the team that should lose out IMO is Carrickedmond as harsh as it may seem."
I'm not sure I agree with this. They can only go by the official scoreline so when they were told at half time that they had 6 points instead of 5 they most likely thought that the ref gave a point for a shot they had thought was wide

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 255 - 06/09/2024 11:19:53    2568681

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Replying To keepitlit:  "Just a thought but Carrickedmond surely cant be totally blameless either, with nearly every team having a dedicated stats person on the line they surely knew the correct score at half-time but were happy to go with the referees mistake as it made their job a little easier.
One unintended consequence of this for the rest of the championship is that referees may delay all restarts after a score so that there will be no more bookkeeping errors!"
100% don't agree with this. as mentioned about the ref many times, human error plays a huge part which is what could of been said for stats!!! plus why would Carrick tell the ref after the game that they actually lost, they can't be blamed and having to correct a score in a senior championship game!! as anyone that has played the game in the last 10 years (many clubs with no score boards) know from either watching a game and especially playing a game you rely on the scoreboard to keep track of the game..


No team at any level in GAA or other sports will go to a ref after the game to say they have actually lost the game instead of it ending in a draw.

Garmin (Longford) - Posts: 96 - 06/09/2024 12:16:42    2568700

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Replying To Garmin:  "100% don't agree with this. as mentioned about the ref many times, human error plays a huge part which is what could of been said for stats!!! plus why would Carrick tell the ref after the game that they actually lost, they can't be blamed and having to correct a score in a senior championship game!! as anyone that has played the game in the last 10 years (many clubs with no score boards) know from either watching a game and especially playing a game you rely on the scoreboard to keep track of the game..


No team at any level in GAA or other sports will go to a ref after the game to say they have actually lost the game instead of it ending in a draw."
Agree with this. How can Carrickedmond be sure their score is correct? You would have to go with ref. The amount of games I've been at where people around me have different scores is endless. There is no way any team is going to argue with the ref at half time to try and convince him he has the wrong score against them. And to be honest even you did think he was wrong what can you do? You have to play the game with the score he is giving. Do they start trying to score a goal in the last minute because they think the ref might have the wrong score? That would be madness.

GAALONGFORD (Longford) - Posts: 34 - 06/09/2024 16:21:21    2568738

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Replying To Garmin:  "100% don't agree with this. as mentioned about the ref many times, human error plays a huge part which is what could of been said for stats!!! plus why would Carrick tell the ref after the game that they actually lost, they can't be blamed and having to correct a score in a senior championship game!! as anyone that has played the game in the last 10 years (many clubs with no score boards) know from either watching a game and especially playing a game you rely on the scoreboard to keep track of the game..


No team at any level in GAA or other sports will go to a ref after the game to say they have actually lost the game instead of it ending in a draw."
Regardless of the outcome at the end of the day carriisckedmond didn't win the game end of

drunkensailor (Longford) - Posts: 83 - 06/09/2024 20:13:40    2568767

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Any update? Was meeting held?

#Putitup (Longford) - Posts: 49 - 07/09/2024 01:03:39    2568800

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Replying To GAALONGFORD:  "Agree with this. How can Carrickedmond be sure their score is correct? You would have to go with ref. The amount of games I've been at where people around me have different scores is endless. There is no way any team is going to argue with the ref at half time to try and convince him he has the wrong score against them. And to be honest even you did think he was wrong what can you do? You have to play the game with the score he is giving. Do they start trying to score a goal in the last minute because they think the ref might have the wrong score? That would be madness."
Fair enough but ij this case there was evidence on clubber.ie I would agree be hard to say ref is wrong if there wasn't video evidence especially.

Harsh on carrickedmond but that's important point u didn't mention.
No winners really here .
Won't be replay anyway

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 539 - 07/09/2024 01:49:18    2568801

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Replying To #Putitup:  "Any update? Was meeting held?"
Yeah and no decision was made by the CCC. Decision delayed until sunday at the earliest. This from the Leader twitter.

maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 211 - 07/09/2024 09:45:26    2568818

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Meeting was last night. Went on for 3 hours apparently. Hard to understand how you could spend that long debating it and not come up with an decision with the evidence right there. Maybe they accidentally watched Oppenheimer?

In any event, decision is tomorrow according to the Leader.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 580 - 07/09/2024 13:20:57    2568829

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Dromard have withdrawn fm the championship I just heard

drunkensailor (Longford) - Posts: 83 - 07/09/2024 15:00:17    2568835

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