Replying To 3rdmidfielder: "Agreed we arent good enough. Why arent we good enough? It is because of mismanagement for twenty plus years. No plan, no accountability.
I agree mid table division 3 would be a great achievement but we are miles away from that.
Dingle, St Bridgets, Scotstown, ballyboden the four club provincial winners this year would beat us. I could list more club teams that would beat us. CLUB teams so im not willing to listen to excuses about population.
Dublin always had the population and won one all ireland between in 1983 and 2011 because they didn't have a plan. When they got their act together they dominated, they had a plan and they produced top class footballers, and they got the funding. Weaker counties need to be looking for more from CP.
Im not talking about us winning all irelands but we surly should be doing better than we have been for twenty plus years."
We aren't good enough because the players are simply not there, or at least a full 15-20 that could compete. There's no doubt we have 2 or 3 very good players. And perhaps we haven't had in the right man in charge of them to get a tune out of them. Terry Hyland was our last decent manager and he wasn't good enough for some on here either.
Dingle would beat probably 20-24 of the inter county teams and give the remaining ones a good run for their money. No shame in being beaten by them.
Dublin always had the population but they didn't have the players, and other counties like Kildare and Meath were just as strong as them for most of their lean period.