Firstly the game was always going to be a tight one with the squad NY assembled.
It's easy to point the blame at management and to a certain extent I can see why this is the case. Leitrim had some great goal chances and missed everyone of them. NY looked as fit as Leitrim which shouldn't be the case as they have no preparation time with games so I would question the S&C.
The biggest problem and I have yet to see it mentioned here is that we have a man over coaching in this county for the last I'd say 20 odd years and bar 1 game in u21s v Galway we have been hammered at every level u17/18 u20/21 the book stops With him. Keith Berine is the only player that can use both feet confidently. Look at the other counties around us and see the main coaching officer he is hands on and pro-active and instilling belief in young men. Our man wouldn't be able to run a coaching session with 20 9 year olds. It's a joke and that has to change.
The current Leitrim u20 manager made a shambles of the Leitrim senior job when he had it so the county board decide to give him the u20 job his own club wouldn't even have him coaching.
So to blame everything on Andy Moran he's only in the door 2 years is wrong. A result like this has been brewing for years and until there is a complete over haul in coaching in the county we will always be in this position.

Champotime18 (Leitrim) - Posts: 442 - 09/04/2023 11:28:46    2469704

A disastrous result for Leitrim… I think Andy Moran should be removed immediately and someone local put in place for the upcoming Taltainn Cup games.. A new voice would give what must be a shell shocked panel of players a much needed lift… The panel and management will have to carry this burden of been New York's first victims for the rest of their lives.. It won't be easy for them… but immediate action must be taken by the County Board.

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3150 - 09/04/2023 11:43:23    2469709

It's going to be one hell of a long trip home.

somewouldargue (Leitrim) - Posts: 52 - 09/04/2023 11:51:31    2469712

Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 351 - 09/04/2023 12:03:10    2469718

First of all congrats to new york, 25 years of plugging away they finally got their win.
We had enough chances to win, we spurned at least 6 good goals chances, sometimes that happens in football, nyc took theres, there convertion ratio was alot higher than ours.
Bar evan there bench waa a lot stronger and had more on an impact.

For me the big big big issue was.
We have played 7 league a fbd game and numerous challenge matches, nyc none and they were the fitter team, we had lads going down with cramp all over the place and ran out of steam,
The lads that took the penalties were hardly able to walk up to take them.

Thats where the management have serious questions to answer
Fittness, s+c, gameplan

sparkie (Leitrim) - Posts: 77 - 09/04/2023 12:06:08    2469721

It is awful disappointing to see Leitrim beaten in New York, I'd have a grá for my close neighbours. But it is massively unfair to expect ye to play New York with your population size and resources. NY can transfer in players from every county and also players from other cities in America (Carthy came over from Boston). It is the equivalent of some of this country's biggest town playing them. I couldn't see Blanchardstown or Navan getting a result over there. This again highlights the total unfairness of the championship. I hope ye give the Tailteann cup a good rattle.

Ulsterchamps72 (Donegal) - Posts: 100 - 09/04/2023 12:12:24    2469724

Delighted for New York. Very entertaining match. Leitrim had plenty of chances to win but NY were gritty and hung in there. It was bound to happen eventually as NY ran Sligo very close and gave Galway headaches in the past too. Jet lag and the time difference probably didn't do Leitrim any favors either. Huge crowd at the match and the pubs were packed watching it! Great to see. Hard luck to Leitrim.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2274 - 09/04/2023 12:26:52    2469733

Hopefully NY beat sligo simply for the fact it would cost the gaa a fortune! They'd be in three all Ireland qualifiers after the final. This would be a good thing.

somewouldargue (Leitrim) - Posts: 52 - 09/04/2023 12:28:20    2469734

As a Galway man I just want to say hard luck but Galway were run uncomfortably close over in New York around 10-12 years ago. Padraic Joyce saved us very very late. It was so tight that the rules changed the following year to allow the loser into the qualifiers, it was previously just a given that New York would lose and that was that for them and the championship.
If Leitrim missed a host of goal chances then it's not like New York were all over Leitrim. New York have very good intercounty players there. It's just unfortunate for Leitrim.
Maybe coaching could've meant Leitrim would take one or two goal chances, but maybe it has been coached too and the players didn't execute.
Andy Moran to me would be an easy scapegoat. I think a man who played on that brilliant mayo team would drive standards and push the county board for improvements etc.
From reading here that Beirne is the only 2 footer. Is that Moran's fault? Seems like a 5-10 year coaching problem within the clubs or county.

jam83 (Galway) - Posts: 172 - 09/04/2023 12:29:03    2469735

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1056 - 09/04/2023 12:29:57    2469736

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 09/04/2023 12:51:27    2469746

Well done New York fully deserved. I called this result after the Sligo or Laois game. The level of our conditioning is unacceptable.

This is an embarrassing result but maybe it was needed to finally sort out the mess that is leitrim football.

Our results at senior and underage level the last twenty years has been atrocious, maybe it takes a result like this to be the required wake up call.

I'm not going to name names but there were guys playing last night that are never nor will ever be inter-county standard.

Andy is a young coach and a nice guy but I think this job came to soon for him, he added Luke Bree to replace James Clancy and I feel he should have appointed a more experienced coach. The management team in general is very young and inexperienced.

A root and branch review is required now into the state of leitrim football and we need to out source this. I wouldn't trust anyone in the county with it.

Some great lads on that panel that always give 100% but unfortunately they are being let down.

We as a county need to demand more. We can go twenty years without winning 3 meaningful games at underage and not a wimper out of our support.

3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 351 - 09/04/2023 12:51:40    2469747

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1066 - 09/04/2023 12:53:13    2469748

Hard luck to Leitrim, be a tough to take.
Its the ultimate away game, between jet lag, all the media and if they were doing fundraisers out there, there is alot of go for the players when out there, it would be mentally draining. Did they need longer out there to get the bodies right, it was Wednesday they arrived out, would Monday have been better to get over jet lag.
Think between all that and an astro pitch, it effected Leitrim players alot more and thats why they were cramping. If New York had to come here and play Leitrim, I think Leitrim would be winning handy enough.

Is it better to be in the Tailteann cup, then getting to a Connacht final and going into All Ireland series and most likely not winning a game in it. Or would it created a better buzz/atmosphere to get into the All Ireland series, and would the younger players in the counties get more inspiration from seeing them in All Ireland series.

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 619 - 09/04/2023 12:56:18    2469749

somewouldargue (Leitrim) - Posts: 52 - 09/04/2023 13:01:27    2469753

That New York team is decent. Some very good players. Not much between the teams.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1194 - 09/04/2023 13:17:00    2469762

I don't know what to say. Well done New York. Writing was on the wall from the last trip out there..
The co commentater got a hat trick out there before. We could have done with some of that composure in front of goal or just a fisted point would do.
Little things..other small things breaking from the parade first, NY remained. A disjointed look at half time of ET while NY were in a tight huddle with everyone included. You just sensed they were on a mission.
Our shot selections and execution were so erratic but i think we always thought it would be alright on the night.
As opposed to under trained, we definitely seemed tired or heavy legged. Too much going on. I dont know.
Im afraid Andy and ML are learning the hard way on the job.
I don't know how you could pick up a gang of lads to play in the tailteann after that. We should be planning our day out in Sligo but in all reality, maybe we have been saved the hassle. Sligo did a professional job yesterday. They are going places and have underage to back it up. They won't be long finding the net but for our blushes, i really hope NY put in a good showing.

Hard not to admit it now that it was a shame the young fella didnt play in Tuam when Galway were for the taking.

Also hard to compete with NY and these big county names coming in. It reminds me of the Ireland Rugby team with the SA and NZ lads. There's something not right there and needs to be a cap or a certain no of home grown locals.

Apparently the NY keeper came off the line for the pens...was he spoken to beforehand? I've no more straws to clutch at. Thank God Lent is over.......



Keep the heads up today

Mugatay (Leitrim) - Posts: 157 - 09/04/2023 13:35:41    2469766

It takes years to recover from TH being in charge .

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 09/04/2023 13:38:57    2469769

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 746 - 09/04/2023 13:55:48    2469775

theroadtocroker (Leitrim) - Posts: 27 - 09/04/2023 14:19:18    2469780