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Replying To southleitrim_mafia: "Below is how I'd like to see the championship restructured. I believe it will give more game time to players and expose junior and intermediate footballers to a higher level of football. In Leitrim's last competitive game only one player got game time who was below senior grade at club level. That was Conor Reynolds of Annaduff. If 2023 follows the same fixture plan as 2022 the most competitive games a senior club can possibly play is 15. This is ignoring the spring league which is only a mickey mouse competition if we are being serious. The league will run from 27th of May until the 5th Aug and championship from 12th Aug until 14th of Oct. 15 weekends of football with 6 breaks.
Restructure:
1. I would exclude all clubs second teams from competing against first teams.
2. The 24 clubs would be split between 3 division's for league and championship. Each division having 8 teams. Division 3 and Junior would have 7 that is expecting St Osnit's won't enter a team.
3. League. The league would run on a round robin basis all teams playing each other once and the top two competing in the league final as usual. It would begin a week earlier on the 20th of May and conclude on the 22nd of July. Maximum of 8 games with 2 weekends without games.
4. Club championships. The club championships would be reduced to the three competitions senior, intermediate and junior (second team competitions would be separate). reduced from 10 to 8 teams per division. Two groups of four will be drawn with each team playing each other once. Top two in each group progress to Semi finals and bottom two compete in relegation playoffs with one team being relegated. Winners of intermediate to be promoted to senior and vice versa for junior. Championship reduced from maximum 7 games to maximum 5 games. the 5 games played from 29th July to 9th Sept with two weekends of breaks.
5. Regional/Divisonal Competition.
All Leitrim clubs broken into 4 regions North, South, East and West.
North region South region East region West region
Manorhamilton Mohill Ballinamore St Marys
Melvin Gaels Gortletteragh Fenagh Leitrim Gaels
Dromahair Eslin Aughawillan Allen Gaels
Drumkeerin Cloone Aughnasheelin Annaduff
St Osnits? Aughavas Kiltubrid Bornacoola
Glenfarne/Kilty Carrigallen Drumreilly
Ballinaglera
Competition will consist of 12 teams, the 8 senior clubs and 4 regional teams.
St Marys
Mohill
Leitrim Gaels
Fenagh
Ballinamore
Aughawillan
Manorhamilton
Gortletteragh
North Region (Melvin, Dromahair, Drumkeerin, St Osnits, Glenfarne)
South Region (Eslin, Cloone, Aughavas, Carrigallen)
East Region (Aughnasheelin, Kiltubrid, Drumreilly, Ballinaglera)
West Region ( Allen Gaels, Bornacoola, Annaduff)
*Manor and Gort down as senior club as they won senior relegation semi finals 2022
Team relegated from senior in 2023 to join there respective divisional team and winners of intermediate to compete on there own in regional competition for the following season. Winners of senior, intermediate and junior championships to still represent Leitrim in Connacht club championships. The 12 teams are split into 4 groups of 3. Top two teams in each group progress to quarter finals. Bottom team in each group progress to Shield competition. Winner receives Packy McGarty Cup. Competition would begin on 23rd of Sept and conclude on 22nd of Oct. each team getting a minimum of three games and maximum of 5.
The summer club schedule is below.
League
Round 1 - 20th May
Round 2 - 27th May
Round 3 - 3rd June
Break - 10th June
Round 4 - 17th June
Round 5 - 24th June
Break - 1st July
Round 6 - 8th July
Round 7 - 15th July
Final - 22nd July
Club Championships
Round 1 - 29th July
Round 2 - 5th Aug
Round 3 - 12th Aug
Break - 19th Aug
Semi Final - 26th Aug
Break - 2nd Sept
Final - 9th Sept
Regional Competition
Break - 16th Sept
Round 1 - 23rd Sept
Round 2 - 30th Sept
Quarter Final - 7th Oct
Semi Final - 14th Oct
Final - 22nd Oct" The regions came out funny.
North Region - Manor, Melvin, Dromahair, Drumkeerin, Glenfarne, St Osnits?
South Region - Mohill, Gort, Eslin, Cloone, Aughavas, Carrigallen,
West region - St Marys, Leitrim, Allen gaels, Annaduff, bornacoola,
East region - Ballinamore, fenagh, Aughawillan, Aughnasheelin, Kiltubrid, Drumreilly, Ballinaglera
As said above senior clubs will compete on there own. for example Leitrim gaels would be a top 8 senior club so would be on there own for regional competition. If they were to be relegated from senior they'd join the West region in the regional competition the following season. Likewise if Kiltubrid were promoted from intermediate they'd be on there own for the regional competition the following year
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Replying To southleitrim_mafia: "Below is how I'd like to see the championship restructured. I believe it will give more game time to players and expose junior and intermediate footballers to a higher level of football. In Leitrim's last competitive game only one player got game time who was below senior grade at club level. That was Conor Reynolds of Annaduff. If 2023 follows the same fixture plan as 2022 the most competitive games a senior club can possibly play is 15. This is ignoring the spring league which is only a mickey mouse competition if we are being serious. The league will run from 27th of May until the 5th Aug and championship from 12th Aug until 14th of Oct. 15 weekends of football with 6 breaks.
Restructure:
1. I would exclude all clubs second teams from competing against first teams.
2. The 24 clubs would be split between 3 division's for league and championship. Each division having 8 teams. Division 3 and Junior would have 7 that is expecting St Osnit's won't enter a team.
3. League. The league would run on a round robin basis all teams playing each other once and the top two competing in the league final as usual. It would begin a week earlier on the 20th of May and conclude on the 22nd of July. Maximum of 8 games with 2 weekends without games.
4. Club championships. The club championships would be reduced to the three competitions senior, intermediate and junior (second team competitions would be separate). reduced from 10 to 8 teams per division. Two groups of four will be drawn with each team playing each other once. Top two in each group progress to Semi finals and bottom two compete in relegation playoffs with one team being relegated. Winners of intermediate to be promoted to senior and vice versa for junior. Championship reduced from maximum 7 games to maximum 5 games. the 5 games played from 29th July to 9th Sept with two weekends of breaks.
5. Regional/Divisonal Competition.
All Leitrim clubs broken into 4 regions North, South, East and West.
North region South region East region West region
Manorhamilton Mohill Ballinamore St Marys
Melvin Gaels Gortletteragh Fenagh Leitrim Gaels
Dromahair Eslin Aughawillan Allen Gaels
Drumkeerin Cloone Aughnasheelin Annaduff
St Osnits? Aughavas Kiltubrid Bornacoola
Glenfarne/Kilty Carrigallen Drumreilly
Ballinaglera
Competition will consist of 12 teams, the 8 senior clubs and 4 regional teams.
St Marys
Mohill
Leitrim Gaels
Fenagh
Ballinamore
Aughawillan
Manorhamilton
Gortletteragh
North Region (Melvin, Dromahair, Drumkeerin, St Osnits, Glenfarne)
South Region (Eslin, Cloone, Aughavas, Carrigallen)
East Region (Aughnasheelin, Kiltubrid, Drumreilly, Ballinaglera)
West Region ( Allen Gaels, Bornacoola, Annaduff)
*Manor and Gort down as senior club as they won senior relegation semi finals 2022
Team relegated from senior in 2023 to join there respective divisional team and winners of intermediate to compete on there own in regional competition for the following season. Winners of senior, intermediate and junior championships to still represent Leitrim in Connacht club championships. The 12 teams are split into 4 groups of 3. Top two teams in each group progress to quarter finals. Bottom team in each group progress to Shield competition. Winner receives Packy McGarty Cup. Competition would begin on 23rd of Sept and conclude on 22nd of Oct. each team getting a minimum of three games and maximum of 5.
The summer club schedule is below.
League
Round 1 - 20th May
Round 2 - 27th May
Round 3 - 3rd June
Break - 10th June
Round 4 - 17th June
Round 5 - 24th June
Break - 1st July
Round 6 - 8th July
Round 7 - 15th July
Final - 22nd July
Club Championships
Round 1 - 29th July
Round 2 - 5th Aug
Round 3 - 12th Aug
Break - 19th Aug
Semi Final - 26th Aug
Break - 2nd Sept
Final - 9th Sept
Regional Competition
Break - 16th Sept
Round 1 - 23rd Sept
Round 2 - 30th Sept
Quarter Final - 7th Oct
Semi Final - 14th Oct
Final - 22nd Oct" I hope you put that in front of your club for consideration, people could get behind a plan like that.
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MARTIN MC HUGH. What now for mc hugh. With him finally hanging up the boots on a brilliant career where does he go now. Or what's will he want to do
Scobby (Leitrim) - Posts: 5 - 14/12/2022 19:32:45
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Replying To southleitrim_mafia: "The regions came out funny.
North Region - Manor, Melvin, Dromahair, Drumkeerin, Glenfarne, St Osnits?
South Region - Mohill, Gort, Eslin, Cloone, Aughavas, Carrigallen,
West region - St Marys, Leitrim, Allen gaels, Annaduff, bornacoola,
East region - Ballinamore, fenagh, Aughawillan, Aughnasheelin, Kiltubrid, Drumreilly, Ballinaglera
As said above senior clubs will compete on there own. for example Leitrim gaels would be a top 8 senior club so would be on there own for regional competition. If they were to be relegated from senior they'd join the West region in the regional competition the following season. Likewise if Kiltubrid were promoted from intermediate they'd be on there own for the regional competition the following year" Might have to rethink the names.
Bornacoola in the west region both the South when they are the most southerly club in the county.
Maybe:
North Leitrim
Mid Leitrim
South East Leitrim
South West Leitrim
Excellent proposals and ideas here.
Would the club rivalries cause an issue? Would bornacoola players be happy to play with annaduff players? Manor and Melvin? Glenfarne and manor? Leitrim gaels and St Mary's? Kiltubrid and aughnasheelin? Aughawillan and drumreilly? Aughawillan and ballinamore? I know not all would happen immediately but in the future at some stage they all potentially could Be playing together. I think this would be a major stumbling block if the proposal came to a vote stage
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Replying To leitrim4sam: "Might have to rethink the names.
Bornacoola in the west region both the South when they are the most southerly club in the county.
Maybe:
North Leitrim
Mid Leitrim
South East Leitrim
South West Leitrim
Excellent proposals and ideas here.
Would the club rivalries cause an issue? Would bornacoola players be happy to play with annaduff players? Manor and Melvin? Glenfarne and manor? Leitrim gaels and St Mary's? Kiltubrid and aughnasheelin? Aughawillan and drumreilly? Aughawillan and ballinamore? I know not all would happen immediately but in the future at some stage they all potentially could Be playing together. I think this would be a major stumbling block if the proposal came to a vote stage" I understand Leitrim4sam that parish pride would be hard to win over. But I think the fact that they have there own separate club competitions and club identity should keep most players happy. I completely understand that no player would want to line out alongside there rival clubs. But if we want to improve Leitrim football I think this would be a great way of doing it. If a player really wants to improve his football level, skill and be on a county team than I think he should be able to suck up a bit of that pride and play alongside rival players. We can already see at school level that players from rival clubs that you have listed there can play amongst each other and through the various underage amalgamations between rival clubs and after all they all lineout together on the county team. The underage amalgamations that have mostly been a success for many clubs (Gortletteragh&Bornacoola and St Brigids some examples) a regional competition would do the same exposing players from weaker clubs to a higher level of football. Thus improving there own club and eventually the county team.
Now I understand the way some of the regions have been broke out don't make the most amount of sense. But I believe they are split the most efficiently way based on skill level and geography. Likewise with names I'm sure each region could come up with a better solution than West Leitrim (Maybe N4 gaels is an idea). I am thinking about bringing this to my club to propose it to the county board, so any feedback on her before then would be great.
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Any word on how the Leitrim panel is shaping up? Not long until the league starts....
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Replying To Square_B: "Any word on how the Leitrim panel is shaping up? Not long until the league starts...." Andy Moran done a interview with Breifne Early a few weeks ago Dean McGovern, David Bruen, Oisin Mcaffrey, Ciaran Cullen all emigrated. Brendan Flynn and Conor Dolan left the panel. Conor Cullen out with long term injury. Aidan Flynn back in and Diarmuid Kellegher, Eoghan Shanley and Killian Gaffey new additions. U20's radek oberwan, Michael Mckiernan and Barry McNulty will train with seniors.
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Replying To southleitrim_mafia: "Andy Moran done a interview with Breifne Early a few weeks ago Dean McGovern, David Bruen, Oisin Mcaffrey, Ciaran Cullen all emigrated. Brendan Flynn and Conor Dolan left the panel. Conor Cullen out with long term injury. Aidan Flynn back in and Diarmuid Kellegher, Eoghan Shanley and Killian Gaffey new additions. U20's radek oberwan, Michael Mckiernan and Barry McNulty will train with seniors." David Bruen and Brendan Flynn are 2 starting players who are gone anyway.
If Gaffey is as good as some expect he could be a huge bonus this year.
I have a feeling McNulty can make a huge impact with the Seniors.
Ciaran Cullen might yet be involved on the panel. He has enormous potential in my eyes. Pace is everything.
I wonder are Domhnail Flynn and Mulligan back?
Tom Quinn from Castleknock/Aughawillan is in which is a significant boost. A guaranteed starter come the league.
I see Donal Wrynn has been named captain. Gets a lot of undue criticism and I wouldn't necessarily have him as a starter but he has been an unbelievable servant to Leitrim and still only 28/29. Had been thrown into every problem position we have had which probably hasn't helped his development.
Looking forward to seeing the team for Friday.
GreenMan94 (Leitrim) - Posts: 29 - 03/01/2023 14:32:37
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Replying To southleitrim_mafia: "Andy Moran done a interview with Breifne Early a few weeks ago Dean McGovern, David Bruen, Oisin Mcaffrey, Ciaran Cullen all emigrated. Brendan Flynn and Conor Dolan left the panel. Conor Cullen out with long term injury. Aidan Flynn back in and Diarmuid Kellegher, Eoghan Shanley and Killian Gaffey new additions. U20's radek oberwan, Michael Mckiernan and Barry McNulty will train with seniors." David Bruen and Brendan Flynn are 2 starting players who are gone anyway.
If Gaffey is as good as some expect he could be a huge bonus this year.
I have a feeling McNulty can make a huge impact with the Seniors.
Ciaran Cullen might yet be involved on the panel. He has enormous potential in my eyes. Pace is everything.
I wonder are Domhnail Flynn and Mulligan back?
Tom Quinn from Castleknock/Aughawillan is in which is a significant boost. A guaranteed starter come the league.
I see Donal Wrynn has been named captain. Gets a lot of undue criticism and I wouldn't necessarily have him as a starter but he has been an unbelievable servant to Leitrim and still only 28/29. Had been thrown into every problem position we have had which probably hasn't helped his development.
Looking forward to seeing the team for Friday.
GreenMan94 (Leitrim) - Posts: 29 - 03/01/2023 14:44:13
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Replying To GreenMan94: "David Bruen and Brendan Flynn are 2 starting players who are gone anyway.
If Gaffey is as good as some expect he could be a huge bonus this year.
I have a feeling McNulty can make a huge impact with the Seniors.
Ciaran Cullen might yet be involved on the panel. He has enormous potential in my eyes. Pace is everything.
I wonder are Domhnail Flynn and Mulligan back?
Tom Quinn from Castleknock/Aughawillan is in which is a significant boost. A guaranteed starter come the league.
I see Donal Wrynn has been named captain. Gets a lot of undue criticism and I wouldn't necessarily have him as a starter but he has been an unbelievable servant to Leitrim and still only 28/29. Had been thrown into every problem position we have had which probably hasn't helped his development.
Looking forward to seeing the team for Friday." It's going to be a big year for Leitrim so am happy enough to see Donal named as captain, he knows the scene, been captain before and as you've said, has been an unbelievable servant to Leitrim. Has Tom Quinn definitely thrown his lot in? There was talk years ago during the Guckian era but that never came to pass. He would be an unbelievable addition if he has, a definite starter for sure. It's a pity other lads have dropped off the panel but look there's not a lot we can do about it. Am also looking forward to seeing how the team lines out on Friday.
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Well lads how are ye shaping up? Looking forward to a good battle in the dome tomorrow night. A few new (and returning) players for us so it'll be interesting to see how it goes.
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I see Galway have selected a strong team.
Will Leitrim try out new members of the panel?
joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 463 - 05/01/2023 16:15:45
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David Bruen the big miss. The rest are replaceable. Where does Tom Quinn play for his club? Hopefully a centre back type player. Benny flynn was a good shot stopper but his kick out was not near the level of an inter county goalkeeper. Unfortunately I won't be travelling to the game this evening. Galway have 5 starters from the all-Ireland final and a few more in reserve so it should be a good test for leitrim to see where we are at with only a few weeks to the start of the league
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Replying To Square_B: "It's going to be a big year for Leitrim so am happy enough to see Donal named as captain, he knows the scene, been captain before and as you've said, has been an unbelievable servant to Leitrim. Has Tom Quinn definitely thrown his lot in? There was talk years ago during the Guckian era but that never came to pass. He would be an unbelievable addition if he has, a definite starter for sure. It's a pity other lads have dropped off the panel but look there's not a lot we can do about it. Am also looking forward to seeing how the team lines out on Friday." A good year if we get out of division 4.
A good run in the Taltean Cup.
Avoid humiliating hammerings in the Connacht Championship.
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Replying To Champotime18: "David Bruen the big miss. The rest are replaceable. Where does Tom Quinn play for his club? Hopefully a centre back type player. Benny flynn was a good shot stopper but his kick out was not near the level of an inter county goalkeeper. Unfortunately I won't be travelling to the game this evening. Galway have 5 starters from the all-Ireland final and a few more in reserve so it should be a good test for leitrim to see where we are at with only a few weeks to the start of the league" Quinn has been Castleknocks main man Marker either in the fullback line or Halfback line. Can see him ending up at 3 for us with Casey moving to 6. Which may solve a few issues as 6 is our problem position.
Finding it very poor that Leitrim have not released their team for this evening already. Disappointing start to the New Year if communication is going to be like this.
However, from what I have heard we will be playing a very ! Experimental team as we have alot of starters with Flu and niggles. We have played other challenges so I'd say Andy Moran just sees this as a fitness building exercise.
Hopefully I'm wrong but the strength of Galways team and those missing for us means it could be a long night
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Watched the match. Odjus stuff.
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Awful first half. Bit better second half but Galway probably eased up having won the game. Keeper situation a big worry.
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Replying To Buzzcagney62: "A good year if we get out of division 4.
A good run in the Taltean Cup.
Avoid humiliating hammerings in the Connacht Championship." Couldn't give a sh1te about the rest... it's Division 4 or it's bust for this management team in my humble opinion. Have said it from Day 1 of this regime. Looks like Moran was trying a few lads last night in different positions and perhaps keeping the powder dry for the 1st league game. We obviously were never going to beat Galway but no doubt it was a good fitness session and indication of what's to come for fellas.
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Replying To Square_B: "Couldn't give a sh1te about the rest... it's Division 4 or it's bust for this management team in my humble opinion. Have said it from Day 1 of this regime. Looks like Moran was trying a few lads last night in different positions and perhaps keeping the powder dry for the 1st league game. We obviously were never going to beat Galway but no doubt it was a good fitness session and indication of what's to come for fellas." He gave a lot of new faces an opportunity against a strong Galway team.It was encouraging to see 2 under 20's including 18yr old Barry McNulty get game time.
The focus,as you say has to be on on the League and in particular the first game against Waterford
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Replying To Buzzcagney62: "A good year if we get out of division 4.
A good run in the Taltean Cup.
Avoid humiliating hammerings in the Connacht Championship." Promotion from division 4 and I would be more looking at a Connacht final and skipping the taltean Cup this year. New York in the quarter and then the winners of Sligo/London in semi.. All division 4 teams so no excuse not to be aiming higher. In saying that I'd say New York will be licking their lips at the game in April, we'll do well to get a victory.
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