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Replying To gaelsboy: "All very good ideas lads. But i feel like the county board are like the lads in the Lyons tea advert, they are happy to get a decent manager on board and hope for the best, then just keep costs down after, rather than addressing the actual issues with Leitrim football other than population, as proved by Monaghan and Fermanagh (in the past), it is 15 v 15 at the end of the day, psychology does indeed come into a game like last Sunday but why we would be intimidated by London i have no idea." I doubt they were intimidated. The conditions made it a lottery that either side could win, coupled with our giving up home advantage. Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 25/02/2022 13:59:35 2402353 Link
Replying To Backheel: "Desperately disappointed with last Sundays result. The choice to bring Emlyn in in them conditions seemed strange to me. As he is clearly better suited to fairer conditions. Games like last Sunday are won psychologically and we seemed to have dropped of in this manner from Hylands first year when we won games like this. Wicklow in Aughrim springs to mind. In regards to structure and the Monaghan example. Monaghan were blessed with super administrators eg Padraic Duffy and Sean McCague and clubs bought into their ideas and moved forward with the County Senior team and the apex of their structure. Leitrim have been lacking that type of leadership. With club agendas ruling the roost and our competitions suffering as a result. I would love to see full time administrator covering County's like Sligo Leitrim Fermanagh and Longford for example and putting best practice structures in place that would benefit the game as a whole in the county rather than. Structures to benefit the whims of club officials. PS Monaghan also have had large corporate sponsors to support them." In all fairness he hasn't done it at county level in many years, a willing servant no doubt but not county standard. A good club footballer. Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 25/02/2022 14:00:31 2402355 Link
I notice that 7 players have transferred from Glenfarne/Kiltyclogher in January/February this year. I know they have been struggling for numbers in recent year, but to lose 7 players is a huge amount for any club. Rossiemad (None) - Posts: 101 - 25/02/2022 16:17:41 2402375 Link
Replying To Backheel: "Desperately disappointed with last Sundays result. The choice to bring Emlyn in in them conditions seemed strange to me. As he is clearly better suited to fairer conditions. Games like last Sunday are won psychologically and we seemed to have dropped of in this manner from Hylands first year when we won games like this. Wicklow in Aughrim springs to mind. In regards to structure and the Monaghan example. Monaghan were blessed with super administrators eg Padraic Duffy and Sean McCague and clubs bought into their ideas and moved forward with the County Senior team and the apex of their structure. Leitrim have been lacking that type of leadership. With club agendas ruling the roost and our competitions suffering as a result. I would love to see full time administrator covering County's like Sligo Leitrim Fermanagh and Longford for example and putting best practice structures in place that would benefit the game as a whole in the county rather than. Structures to benefit the whims of club officials. PS Monaghan also have had large corporate sponsors to support them." I don't necessarily disagree with any of that backheel but I would like some specific examples of a) With club agendas ruling the roost and our competitions suffering as a result. b) ... structures to benefit the whims of club officials. Regarding the full time administrator role, surely 4 counties would be too much for any individual. In Longford the County Secretary and Games Development Manager is a combined full time paid role. Similar in Clare, Davy Fitz's father has been the full time paid secretary there for many years. Would that not be more in our line? Dodgy_Pass (Leitrim) - Posts: 386 - 25/02/2022 18:09:04 2402394 Link
Replying To Dodgy_Pass: "I don't necessarily disagree with any of that backheel but I would like some specific examples of a) With club agendas ruling the roost and our competitions suffering as a result. b) ... structures to benefit the whims of club officials. Regarding the full time administrator role, surely 4 counties would be too much for any individual. In Longford the County Secretary and Games Development Manager is a combined full time paid role. Similar in Clare, Davy Fitz's father has been the full time paid secretary there for many years. Would that not be more in our line?" Cheers Dodgy Pass. I feel we are diluting the standard of senior football as there are two many teams and games at senior championship level. There is a push to increase the amount of teams to 12 which would dilute it the standard even further. IMO there should be 8 teams at senior and intermediate level. With two groups and the top two teams playing in semis. This would increase the standard in all competitions. But the clubs won't allow this as the want the prestige of competing for the Fenagh Cup. In regards to a full time administrator The idea of a combined role is a good one. Although I think that some one from outside the county might have objective view of the state of the structures within the county and have more partiality in decision making. The Fitzgerald situation in Clare is fraught with parochial fighting. The role I was thinking of was a regional CEO a la Costello in Dublin, funded by central council. But fully accept the validity of your ideas. Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 180 - 26/02/2022 10:36:10 2402437 Link
U20's hammered by Longford 2-14 to 1-5. 16 scores to 6. More evidence on the back of last year's U20 and Minor losses to Roscommon that our neighbouring counties are still way out in front in terms of player development? Dodgy_Pass (Leitrim) - Posts: 386 - 26/02/2022 17:29:44 2402514 Link
Replying To Dodgy_Pass: "U20's hammered by Longford 2-14 to 1-5. 16 scores to 6. More evidence on the back of last year's U20 and Minor losses to Roscommon that our neighbouring counties are still way out in front in terms of player development?" Benny is managing them- development and all that goes out the window. They could be the best group ever and he'd find a way to lose. Everything he touches turns to muck leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 675 - 26/02/2022 19:50:50 2402556 Link
Tipp 3 up at half time to Sligo- another twist and turn in division 4 hopefully leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 675 - 26/02/2022 19:51:35 2402557 Link
Replying To Dodgy_Pass: "U20's hammered by Longford 2-14 to 1-5. 16 scores to 6. More evidence on the back of last year's U20 and Minor losses to Roscommon that our neighbouring counties are still way out in front in terms of player development?" I'm afraid we need to look to our clubs and what they are up to. Player development starts at 'kicker' level - IMO U6 & below. Unless clubs co-operate with each other (given our small population base) we'll continue to p1ss into the wind. There's nothing happening in Leitrim at that level & we'll continue to struggle unless something changes. Most clubs in Leitrim are barely threading water for years and it's hardly surprising that our underage teams are consistently behind the curve. It would also be helpful if the county board could communicate a master plan for football in the county. I have never heard of any mention of a 10 year plan for player development or any plan to improve our overall standing. Some of this stuff doesn't require major financial backing but requires putting the onus on clubs to identify committed people who will stay the course for 10 years or more. The county board then should back those individuals with resources and proper training & structures (coaching etc). Counties like Leitrim will always be up against it but that only means we need to work harder. Nothing is impossible. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1126 - 26/02/2022 20:12:43 2402571 Link
And Tipp beat Sligo by 4 points. Just what the doctor ordered from a Leitrim point of view. I agree with a previous poster that London won't win another game/ they beat Carlow and Waterford the two weakest teams and then us by a fluke on an oddball day. What we need now is a complete win of all games and that sees us go up unopposed presuming Cavan beat Sligo. The Tipp/Sligo result now needs to spur us on for tomorrow it's the hope we were waiting for. I cannot see Cavan losing a game in this division even on an off day. It's effectively in our hands now if we are good enough to take it, no excuses now if we don't make it leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 675 - 26/02/2022 20:45:31 2402580 Link
We could be still headed for the Clonliffe Road in April.... there's always hope in the face of adversity. I hope to eat my earlier words if it does pan out.... great win for Tipp and it surely helps our chances. Liatroim abú. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1126 - 26/02/2022 20:53:40 2402583 Link
Replying To leitrim4sam: "Tipp 3 up at half time to Sligo- another twist and turn in division 4 hopefully" Leitrim have a chance now if they win the remainder of the games and Cavan win all of there's. We have to hope that London drop 5 points of 8 also Champotime18 (Leitrim) - Posts: 442 - 26/02/2022 21:32:40 2402594 Link
Funny how different people view results. I would have thought that a win for Tipp was the last thing Leitrim would want. It brings Tipp back into the hunt for promotion. If Leitrim win all their games it wont matter a toss if Tipperary do likewise. Interesting Days ahead. eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 2003 - 26/02/2022 22:01:06 2402603 Link
Replying To eoinog: "Funny how different people view results. I would have thought that a win for Tipp was the last thing Leitrim would want. It brings Tipp back into the hunt for promotion. If Leitrim win all their games it wont matter a toss if Tipperary do likewise. Interesting Days ahead." Suppose we'd be hoping Cavan would beat Tipperary next weekend and we'd win our last 4 games and London drop points too. All these scenarios won't matter if we don't win in Dungarvan today,anything less than a victory and we're definitely gone. Very tough place to go and get a result , can never remember us winning there. Need everyone to step up today and grind out a victory by whatever means. We're talking about the potential of this team for a while now ,we need to start showing it and going to tough venues and getting wins. Wishing the lads the very best of luck today. JimmyNail (Leitrim) - Posts: 261 - 27/02/2022 07:55:21 2402610 Link
Replying To eoinog: "Funny how different people view results. I would have thought that a win for Tipp was the last thing Leitrim would want. It brings Tipp back into the hunt for promotion. If Leitrim win all their games it wont matter a toss if Tipperary do likewise. Interesting Days ahead." No Tipp winning is the best thing we could have hoped for. Let's look at this as a points dropped scenario over the course of the league -Cavan win all games - no points dropped. -Tipp have drawn against Waterford already, lost against Leitrim already and will lose against Cavan- 5 points dropped so. -Sligo have lost against Tipp, will lose against Cavan and if Leitrim win all their games then Sligo drop 6 points -London lose to Cavan, Tipp and Sligo 6 points dropped -leitrim lost against Cavan and London but win the remainder of their games- 4 points dropped And Leitrim go up. This is what we are hoping for now. One more slip up and we are gone but we have a chance now that Tipp won leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 675 - 27/02/2022 08:42:07 2402614 Link
Replying To leitrim4sam: "No Tipp winning is the best thing we could have hoped for. Let's look at this as a points dropped scenario over the course of the league -Cavan win all games - no points dropped. -Tipp have drawn against Waterford already, lost against Leitrim already and will lose against Cavan- 5 points dropped so. -Sligo have lost against Tipp, will lose against Cavan and if Leitrim win all their games then Sligo drop 6 points -London lose to Cavan, Tipp and Sligo 6 points dropped -leitrim lost against Cavan and London but win the remainder of their games- 4 points dropped And Leitrim go up. This is what we are hoping for now. One more slip up and we are gone but we have a chance now that Tipp won" That's a lot of ifs and buts. Cavan won't win all their games. Interesting to see what team they slip up against. !!!! eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 2003 - 27/02/2022 12:13:05 2402655 Link
Replying To Dodgy_Pass: "U20's hammered by Longford 2-14 to 1-5. 16 scores to 6. More evidence on the back of last year's U20 and Minor losses to Roscommon that our neighbouring counties are still way out in front in terms of player development?" We shouldn't be losing to Longford like that at any grade full stop. But the fact that the manager there now is one who couldn't make a hand of a genuinely decent bunch of u20s some years back shouldn't be overly surprising and the question is was there no one else to take over this role. Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 27/02/2022 14:19:59 2402690 Link
Replying To eoinog: "That's a lot of ifs and buts. Cavan won't win all their games. Interesting to see what team they slip up against. !!!!" You know as much as Mystic Meg let's be honest. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1126 - 27/02/2022 20:08:24 2402814 Link
Good win today well done to the lads. Good score put up too (Keith Beirne was on fire today), off to Carlow next, they seem to be improving as they ran cavan to 4 points today so we need to be at our best to get a win there. No point looking beyond that or at other games need to look after ourselves. Good to see Shane Moran back in the panel, he could have a big role to play in the last few games. Very good Leitrim support down there too. JimmyNail (Leitrim) - Posts: 261 - 27/02/2022 20:26:55 2402821 Link
A morale boosting win no doubt, Waterford took the lead as well so credit to them from bouncing back from that defeat last week and to Coach Moran for guiding it. That Tipp Sligo result has definitely thrown a spaniard into the works and maybe there is a glimmer of a torch for us. Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 28/02/2022 10:56:15 2402899 Link