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Replying To Zucker:  "was Goldrick playing yesterday?
Did nothing to stake a claim if he was."
no he's injured

meathbasedfan (Leitrim) - Posts: 120 - 11/09/2023 14:03:18    2503811

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Replying To meathbasedfan:  "no he's injured"
His younger brother Brian was playing good footballer

Honeyman2000 (Leitrim) - Posts: 13 - 11/09/2023 14:33:10    2503823

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Replying To green.and.gold:  "Surprisingly big win for Fenagh today, they will fancy their chances now, will be tough games either against Carrick or Mohill but they are coming to the boil at the right time. Ryan O Rourke showing what the county missed all year, hopefully he'll stay injury free now."
Ryan O'Rourke is by far the best footballer in Leitrim. He was a huge loss last year.

3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 327 - 11/09/2023 15:05:56    2503831

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The real acid test for Fenagh now can the get over the line? Mohill,St Mary's and one of Ballinamore VS Glencar Manor. Was in Carrick yesterday and couldn't believe the ease in which Fenagh took Leitrim Gaels apart. I was sat beside a Willie's supporter who never shut up about how the Q\F shouldn't be decided on scoring difference. I suggested it was there hammering at the hands of St Mary's that did the damage but that fell on deaf ears.

Weaternpro (Leitrim) - Posts: 63 - 11/09/2023 15:10:49    2503834

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Replying To Honeyman2000:  "His younger brother Brian was playing good footballer"
never noticed him

Zucker (Leitrim) - Posts: 156 - 11/09/2023 15:22:49    2503837

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Replying To b.o.b.:  "I have never heard of that rule but you may be thinking of the new league format. It is split between first teams and reserve leagues so bottom team in division 3 cannot get relegated as there is no division 4. There is a reserve division 1 which some people may call division 4 but it's not.

I would agree with this structure though.

Have 8 teams each in Senior and Intermediate and 7 in Junior, all first teams similar to Leagues division 1,2,3. 2 groups of 4 would be ideal so 1 2nd team could play in Junior but would swap with the winners of Junior B (2nd teams only) each year so no first team gets relegated. This new Junior championship would have 4 relegated teams from intermediate so would be harder for the 2nd to win.

We could then just have first 15 players named ineligible for 2nd teams. The 18 + anymore played in knockout is unfair on lads who might come on for a few minutes and can't get anymore football.

It was brought in after Mohill won Junior and I can understand why some of the smaller teams were in favour of this as it makes it harder for larger teams 2nd teams to win junior. But the proposal above would also stop this while at the same time not punishing young lads by restricting their playing time.

It would also make Leitrim's participants in Connacht stronger as if a 1st team wins Junior, they would be Leitrim's 21st best team out of 23 clubs. In the proposal above, Leitrim's 17th best club would play In Connacht and intermediate would move from Leitrim's 11th best team to Leitrim's 9th best team.

It has been mentioned before reducing championship to 8 but as previous people have commented, Turkeys won't vote for Xmas and clubs won't vote to relegate themselves even though it would make the competitions more competitive."
You're right! Turkey's won't vote for Christmas.

I looked up the Westmeath system which runs a Senior A and Senior B with 6 teams in each group. It's popular in Westmeath.
I think it would be popular with teams here too.

If it happened this year in Leitrim, Senior A would have had
Mary's, Mohill, Ballinamore, Fenagh, Leitrim Gaels & Aughawillian.

Senior B would have had Manor, Gortletteragh, Dromahair, Melvin Gaels, Aughnasheelin & Annaduff.

Top 4 in Senior A and top 2 in Senior B into knockouts. Bottom 2 in Senior A relegated to Senior B. Bottom 2 in Senior B relegated to Intermediate.

Maybe the teams who finish 3rd and 4th in Senior B could enter the knockouts of the Intermediate Championship?

I think most clubs and players would get behind it?

Leitrim2024 (Leitrim) - Posts: 61 - 11/09/2023 16:10:32    2503846

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Replying To Leitrim2024:  "You're right! Turkey's won't vote for Christmas.

I looked up the Westmeath system which runs a Senior A and Senior B with 6 teams in each group. It's popular in Westmeath.
I think it would be popular with teams here too.

If it happened this year in Leitrim, Senior A would have had
Mary's, Mohill, Ballinamore, Fenagh, Leitrim Gaels & Aughawillian.

Senior B would have had Manor, Gortletteragh, Dromahair, Melvin Gaels, Aughnasheelin & Annaduff.

Top 4 in Senior A and top 2 in Senior B into knockouts. Bottom 2 in Senior A relegated to Senior B. Bottom 2 in Senior B relegated to Intermediate.

Maybe the teams who finish 3rd and 4th in Senior B could enter the knockouts of the Intermediate Championship?

I think most clubs and players would get behind it?"
Interesting alight

Can the CB look at this as an option ,particularly if bottom two could compete in Intermediate

joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 503 - 11/09/2023 17:58:18    2503875

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Replying To Honeyman2000:  "What about the junior b and junior c champos does anyone know young lads that are impressing for the junior team and should be getting more minutes for their r respective senior teams"
Niall Brady lining out for Manor's Junior C team. He played for Leitrim a few seasons ago.

Creidim... (Leitrim) - Posts: 45 - 11/09/2023 22:20:40    2503904

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Replying To joeman123:  "Interesting alight

Can the CB look at this as an option ,particularly if bottom two could compete in Intermediate"
I think it would be a good idea but not sure if there is GAA rules that might stop a team playing 2 different grades in the one year.

It would be ideal as clubs would be for it as there would be more senior teams so smaller senior clubs like Dromahair, Gortletteragh, Aughnasheelin would remain senior but also have a chance at winning something if they could play knockout intermediate games.

b.o.b. (Leitrim) - Posts: 18 - 11/09/2023 23:54:16    2503907

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Replying To Leitrim2024:  "You're right! Turkey's won't vote for Christmas.

I looked up the Westmeath system which runs a Senior A and Senior B with 6 teams in each group. It's popular in Westmeath.
I think it would be popular with teams here too.

If it happened this year in Leitrim, Senior A would have had
Mary's, Mohill, Ballinamore, Fenagh, Leitrim Gaels & Aughawillian.

Senior B would have had Manor, Gortletteragh, Dromahair, Melvin Gaels, Aughnasheelin & Annaduff.

Top 4 in Senior A and top 2 in Senior B into knockouts. Bottom 2 in Senior A relegated to Senior B. Bottom 2 in Senior B relegated to Intermediate.

Maybe the teams who finish 3rd and 4th in Senior B could enter the knockouts of the Intermediate Championship?

I think most clubs and players would get behind it?"
Manor are surely a better outfit than Leitrim Gales (always blowing that crowd) this year!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2084 - 12/09/2023 03:17:23    2503912

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Replying To Leitrim2024:  "You're right! Turkey's won't vote for Christmas.

I looked up the Westmeath system which runs a Senior A and Senior B with 6 teams in each group. It's popular in Westmeath.
I think it would be popular with teams here too.

If it happened this year in Leitrim, Senior A would have had
Mary's, Mohill, Ballinamore, Fenagh, Leitrim Gaels & Aughawillian.

Senior B would have had Manor, Gortletteragh, Dromahair, Melvin Gaels, Aughnasheelin & Annaduff.

Top 4 in Senior A and top 2 in Senior B into knockouts. Bottom 2 in Senior A relegated to Senior B. Bottom 2 in Senior B relegated to Intermediate.

Maybe the teams who finish 3rd and 4th in Senior B could enter the knockouts of the Intermediate Championship?

I think most clubs and players would get behind it?"
The format of that championship was designed by Kevin McStay and a few others in Roscommon. We had it for three years and then the weaker clubs who loved making Quarter finals as it was easier make one than get knocked out voted to change. Was a great system.
Westmeath followed suit after the first year or two of it been implemented in Roscommon.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1184 - 12/09/2023 09:29:43    2503924

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Replying To Weaternpro:  "The real acid test for Fenagh now can the get over the line? Mohill,St Mary's and one of Ballinamore VS Glencar Manor. Was in Carrick yesterday and couldn't believe the ease in which Fenagh took Leitrim Gaels apart. I was sat beside a Willie's supporter who never shut up about how the Q\F shouldn't be decided on scoring difference. I suggested it was there hammering at the hands of St Mary's that did the damage but that fell on deaf ears."
The willies supporter hardly had ginger hair by any chance? He seems to be singing the same hymn on all social media outlets. What he is forgetting is, everyone knew the rules before the championship started. They knew what they had to do and didn't do it, simple as. Here is is whinging now after they get knocked out. Fenagh and Leitrim Gaels would both beat the willies, so i don't know what his argument is.

TaytoFoley (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 13/09/2023 14:18:16    2504157

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Replying To TaytoFoley:  "The willies supporter hardly had ginger hair by any chance? He seems to be singing the same hymn on all social media outlets. What he is forgetting is, everyone knew the rules before the championship started. They knew what they had to do and didn't do it, simple as. Here is is whinging now after they get knocked out. Fenagh and Leitrim Gaels would both beat the willies, so i don't know what his argument is."
Someone should remind the Willie supporter how his own club did in their last two quarter finals in recent years

index777 (Leitrim) - Posts: 70 - 13/09/2023 15:14:48    2504171

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Replying To TaytoFoley:  "The willies supporter hardly had ginger hair by any chance? He seems to be singing the same hymn on all social media outlets. What he is forgetting is, everyone knew the rules before the championship started. They knew what they had to do and didn't do it, simple as. Here is is whinging now after they get knocked out. Fenagh and Leitrim Gaels would both beat the willies, so i don't know what his argument is."
No point crying when they left the Manor game behind them having bet them well the month before. Their star player was missing. They'd have been in the quarters had they won that game.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1012 - 13/09/2023 16:34:08    2504182

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What's the story with all the walkover games last weekend in the junior B championship? Also Colmcille gave Killoe a walkover in the junior A but the county board have a score up on the website, also Killoe have a result up on their Social media and took payment at the gate for what was a challenge between both clubs in the end.

williesboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 412 - 13/09/2023 18:37:37    2504202

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "The format of that championship was designed by Kevin McStay and a few others in Roscommon. We had it for three years and then the weaker clubs who loved making Quarter finals as it was easier make one than get knocked out voted to change. Was a great system.
Westmeath followed suit after the first year or two of it been implemented in Roscommon."
As Leitrim is smaller county, I don't think 12 Senior teams would be good unless some of the lower ones could play Intermediate at later stages. Could leave it at 10.

A Group - Mohill Carrick Ballinamore Leitrim Fenagh
B Group - Manor Aughawillan Dromahair Aughnasheelin Gortletteragh

Semis Top 2 in A
Qtrs 3rdA Vs 2nd B and 4th A Vs 1st B

5th in A is relegated to B next year, 1st in B promoted to A next year.

Bottom 1 or 2 in B could be relegated or have some sort of relegation playoff first.

b.o.b. (Leitrim) - Posts: 18 - 14/09/2023 09:18:41    2504228

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Replying To b.o.b.:  "As Leitrim is smaller county, I don't think 12 Senior teams would be good unless some of the lower ones could play Intermediate at later stages. Could leave it at 10.

A Group - Mohill Carrick Ballinamore Leitrim Fenagh
B Group - Manor Aughawillan Dromahair Aughnasheelin Gortletteragh

Semis Top 2 in A
Qtrs 3rdA Vs 2nd B and 4th A Vs 1st B

5th in A is relegated to B next year, 1st in B promoted to A next year.

Bottom 1 or 2 in B could be relegated or have some sort of relegation playoff first."
10 is too many. Eight in senior. Two up, two down. We have plenty of good players but the quality of football is diluted. It comes home to roost at inter County level. Fitness levels have improved over the last few years but we started at a low base. Too many "senior" clubs means that with a little bit of effort you'll stay senior. 8 clubs means that your first priority is staying up and to do that you work on what you can control. Therefore fitness and S&C improve. As it stands, we are too soft and too naive. The next edge is tactics. A legacy of poor quality extends into coaching. The lack of tactics is alarming. In order to survive in senior, clubs will be forced to get better coaching.
We exist in a bubble where we revert back to bad habits and ignore the impending doom that is inter County. Our club football is too slow and too soft. A good player will have loads of time on the ball and they're built up as the next big thing. Then their bubble is burst at inter County level.

ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 140 - 14/09/2023 10:53:45    2504239

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Credit where its due, the announcement of a combined Leitrim schools team is very positive and a huge step in the right direction. Well done to all involved.

ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 140 - 14/09/2023 10:58:18    2504241

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Replying To ThePowerhouse:  "10 is too many. Eight in senior. Two up, two down. We have plenty of good players but the quality of football is diluted. It comes home to roost at inter County level. Fitness levels have improved over the last few years but we started at a low base. Too many "senior" clubs means that with a little bit of effort you'll stay senior. 8 clubs means that your first priority is staying up and to do that you work on what you can control. Therefore fitness and S&C improve. As it stands, we are too soft and too naive. The next edge is tactics. A legacy of poor quality extends into coaching. The lack of tactics is alarming. In order to survive in senior, clubs will be forced to get better coaching.
We exist in a bubble where we revert back to bad habits and ignore the impending doom that is inter County. Our club football is too slow and too soft. A good player will have loads of time on the ball and they're built up as the next big thing. Then their bubble is burst at inter County level."
I agree that 8 is enough. I was responding to suggestion of A & B groups like in Westmeath. It is an interesting system that would be an improvement but Westmeath uses 12 teams.

I'm not sure the system would work with 8 so with 8, the best would be 2 even groups. Finalists of previous year seeded first, with losing semi finalists 2nd, losing qtr finalists 3rd and promoted teams 4th.

Senior Intermediate Junior A and B all the same format. Junior C and possibly D different depending on numbers.

Have first teams only in Senior to Junior. 1 team short could be filled by winners of senior Reserve championship (Junior B).

This would mean weaker teams wouldn't complain about strong 2nd teams competing against them and the rule could be changed so less players that play 1st team football would be ineligible to play on 2nd and 3rd teams.

It doesn't do the development of young players any good to get 5 minutes at the end of a senior game and then not be able to play Junior football where they could get good match practice and experience.

b.o.b. (Leitrim) - Posts: 18 - 14/09/2023 12:18:02    2504248

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I don't really understand it tbh. Its basically going to be the same as the county minor team so pretty pointless. Will the Cavan lads that go to Ballinamore and Carrigallen and the Rossies in Carrick be on the team. So were possibly strengthening our neighbours. What needs to be done is the county board needs to go into schools and actually encourage football. At the minute teachers are left in charge to coach teams and some might not have a clue. As a past pupil of Mohill community College I can say from my experience we weren't allowed train during school hours which meant teachers would have to stay on after school to train pupils which rarely happened. They built a full size pitch behind the school but there was a ban on being allowed to play on it during lunch. This pitch costing in excess of €100,000 is now a mossy, rushy mess as it was not looked after. A real kick in the teeth to many clubs in the county who are trying there best to fundraise to improve their clubs. This is not the way to improve leitrim football. Just look at the recent fenagh-allen gaels amalgamation and the macdiarmada gaels farce before that and this new schools team is just an extension of that. Rant over.

Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 324 - 14/09/2023 12:36:20    2504252

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