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Agree 100% games like last night does no one any good. Shooting practice for fenagh
Zucker (Leitrim) - Posts: 156 - 20/08/2023 11:21:23 2501419 Link 0 |
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I understand the argument for a 8 team championship but uncompetitive games isn't unique to Leitrim. Nearly every county will have senior club teams that struggle in their championship. What I see as an issue is the one team promotion and one team relegation. It creates a bottle neck. Would Dromahair, Aughnasheelin or Gortletteragh win this years Intermediate Championship? Maybe a 12 team championship with Div 1a and 1b would be better. They did this in other counties. Highest ranked 6 teams play in Div 1a. Top 4 teams in Div 1a and top 2 teams in div 1b go into quarters/semis. Bottom 2 teams in 1a relegated to 1b for following season. Bottom 4 teams in div 1b play relegation playoffs to go down to intermediate. Leitrim2024 (Leitrim) - Posts: 61 - 20/08/2023 11:35:11 2501421 Link 0 |
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There should be no argument about it. 8 team's in senior championship. Winners of intermediate automatically promoted to senior. Finalists can play the second bottom in senior. Gives intermediate teams a realistic hope of progress. Puts pressure on senior teams to gain an edge. First benefit would be an improvement in fitness. As it stands its too easy to stay up.
ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 139 - 20/08/2023 12:44:40 2501428 Link 0 |
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I follow alot of neighbouring championships and westmeath gaa have this very format. Creates alot of excellent games in both 1a and 1b. Top 2 in 1a straight to semi and 3/4 then play 1/2 from 1b in quarters. Upsets and the odd beating does and always will happen but seems a little less frequent in westmeath where every game brings excitement. 1 up 1 down def creates a bottleneck and leads to very stale championship. We have to start looking at every way to improve our fortunes and not drag up the same tagline year after year.
Auldleitrimgael (Leitrim) - Posts: 32 - 20/08/2023 15:12:45 2501440 Link 1 |
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Sounds interesting. Have to say, our relatively new format is a huge improvement on the old round robin system with 2 groups with the draw etc adding to the drama each week -- fair play to the county board on that. But yes, time to tweak further now so we can keep improving our club game. I see that Junior A now has 8 teams, 2 groups of 4. I assume this was to make it more competitive?
Creidim... (Leitrim) - Posts: 45 - 20/08/2023 17:36:24 2501453 Link 0 |
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Our new format is alot better than before, sparkie (Leitrim) - Posts: 72 - 20/08/2023 17:57:52 2501457 Link 0 |
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Intermediate Championship, Annaduff away to Aughavas on Friday night, blackpuddin (Leitrim) - Posts: 89 - 20/08/2023 20:35:57 2501495 Link 0 |
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Are Annaduff not looking for Friday night games? Seems unlikely they'd be drawn to play Friday three times in a row.
Creidim... (Leitrim) - Posts: 45 - 20/08/2023 22:44:45 2501506 Link 0 |
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Was thinking the very same myself, i assume the kiltubrid game was because of junior A championship which is fair enough, but why 2 friday games then, surely the max friday night games a team plays is 1
sparkie (Leitrim) - Posts: 72 - 20/08/2023 22:47:04 2501507 Link 0 |
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I like the new format and I would agree that 8 teams should be all that's in senior. I would also agree with your tweek where the Intermediate runner-up gets to play a play off game to go senior however others would argue that you'd only drag out the season for the senior team that falls into the bottom 2. For that reason it might be best left one up one down. Anyhow none of this matters a damm if the wrong people are involved at club level... if it's not taken seriously enough.
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1012 - 21/08/2023 12:22:49 2501570 Link 1 |
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"Maybe a 12 team championship with Div 1a and 1b would be better. They did this in other counties. Highest ranked 6 teams play in Div 1a. Top 4 teams in Div 1a and top 2 teams in div 1b go into quarters/semis. Bottom 2 teams in 1a relegated to 1b for following season. Bottom 4 teams in div 1b play relegation playoffs to go down to intermediate" I actually proposed this to another forum member last week,it's used in a good few counties.Every team has something to play for,but would we have 6 good enough for Senior B ? masseyferguson (Leitrim) - Posts: 107 - 21/08/2023 13:10:18 2501589 Link 0 |
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I am sure we don't as the results are showing
joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 501 - 21/08/2023 13:27:42 2501593 Link 0 |
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Separately on a positive note it is good to see the huge interest in the games with good attendances at a lot of games.It shows the interest in football in the county.
joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 501 - 21/08/2023 13:31:06 2501596 Link 0 |
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I suppose senior b would effectively be the new intermediate? This could be a little like the provincial championships debate in that smaller/rural clubs would have less chance of championship silverware, but I think it would increase the standard of our club games, and increase the pool of club players good enough for the county panel. The current system is exciting for supporters but luck of the draw is still a significant factor. A club can face the 4 'best teams' (if we take league position as a rough ranking) and not make the quarters, whereas a lower ranked team can benefit from a kind draw. In this format, I imagine both the A and B groups would be an absolute dogfight. There would probably still be a gap once the top 2 B teams make the quarters against A opposition, but this might be a better way to impose the transition between intermediate and senior, rather than the 1 up, 1 down, bottleneck. Have to say, as others have, the intermediate is hugely competitive this year, as the senior would be if the top 6 teams were in one group. Think this idea has a lot of potential. Would you scrap the intermediate championship then, if there are 12 'senior' teams? Have highest ranked B team represent Leitrim at Connacht club level, as the ladies do, then a 6-team junior A championship? Creidim... (Leitrim) - Posts: 45 - 21/08/2023 13:53:47 2501605 Link 0 |
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We loves our football so we do.
masseyferguson (Leitrim) - Posts: 107 - 22/08/2023 05:18:16 2501709 Link 0 |
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Any names mentioned to take over from Solan? Hopefully it's an experienced coach. We have to be getting out of div 4 next year. Bearinthesquare14 (Leitrim) - Posts: 11 - 22/08/2023 16:23:57 2501811 Link 1 |
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or just make senior and intermediate 8 teams each, simples. gort and neddies/ probably dromahair prime candidates to relegate to inter, theyre on a hiding to nothing up there. drumreilly and bornacoola to junior. gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 560 - 22/08/2023 16:31:39 2501813 Link 0 |
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Agree 100%. was in Fenagh last weekend and gortletra were bet off the field. Disgrace that they are considered a senior team. Cut championships down to 8 teams and keep it competitive at least. Fair enough, whatever happens in league happens but surely everyone should do their best to win championship?
Zucker (Leitrim) - Posts: 156 - 23/08/2023 10:38:25 2501862 Link 1 |
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And if Fenagh lose against Soh,and Aughnashelin win ,aughnashelin are in the quarterfinals
Redlad6 (Leitrim) - Posts: 30 - 23/08/2023 14:46:13 2501945 Link 0 |
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Anomalies like that may happen with the quirky draw system we have. Would be harsh on Fenagh to lose out as they're obviously much better then aughnashelin.
SeanMacDiarmada (Leitrim) - Posts: 408 - 23/08/2023 21:47:13 2501998 Link 0 |