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Senior Club League due to start in 3 weeks. No fixtures have been made yet.
A Master Fixture plan was sent out 6 weeks ago and has already been changed 3/4 times.
How are players/management meant to plan for their lives outside of the GAA and then on a sporting front how are management and players meant to plan for the games without knowing who they are playing, where they are playing and when they are playing?
These are all fairly basic things but if not done properly are the exact reasons why people get fed up and drift away from sport.
Split season is brilliant but when you have a county board without foresight or that are obsessed with the inter-county team it makes very little difference.
Clubs wont have county players for the first 3 or 4 rounds and maybe more depending on the success of the Inter-County team in the Tailteann Cup.
So some county players will only make 4 or 5 appearances for their clubs this year and that's if they don't take a break after the Tailteann Cup which they will need.
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Replying To Leitrim1234: "Senior Club League due to start in 3 weeks. No fixtures have been made yet.
A Master Fixture plan was sent out 6 weeks ago and has already been changed 3/4 times.
How are players/management meant to plan for their lives outside of the GAA and then on a sporting front how are management and players meant to plan for the games without knowing who they are playing, where they are playing and when they are playing?
These are all fairly basic things but if not done properly are the exact reasons why people get fed up and drift away from sport.
Split season is brilliant but when you have a county board without foresight or that are obsessed with the inter-county team it makes very little difference.
Clubs wont have county players for the first 3 or 4 rounds and maybe more depending on the success of the Inter-County team in the Tailteann Cup.
So some county players will only make 4 or 5 appearances for their clubs this year and that's if they don't take a break after the Tailteann Cup which they will need." The reason the agreement was put in place to reduce the teams in each league to 8 was to accommodate the county. So if it's true that teams have to play without county players it's poor. Although saying that I don't think maybe county Players play club league football in many counties and Infairness club managers are now becoming better at managing loads the players have. I'd say if all club managers are told they will have the county players for the last 4 league games refreshed and ready to give the club a rattle they would be happy enough.
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Replying To Champotime18: "Could have been a nastier draw and one I'm sure Andy is happy with. It will show where our team is at. The group is a good mix's Fermanagh now a div 2 team. Antrim stayed up in div 3 while Wexford and ourselves finished on equal points however they did beat us. Looking forward to these games particularly Fermanagh in Carrick should be a good game" Serious pressure on this Leitrim side going into this Taiilteann Cup campaign.
Should be aiming to be beat Antrim and Wexford and a local derby v Fermanagh a 50 50 game.
drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 330 - 05/05/2023 15:42:49
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I witnessed something this evening when at a game a current Referee sent of for verbally abusing his own refereeing colleague it was shocking. I'd be the first to admit i'd shout at a ref if the call went against my Club but its a horrible job that I wouldn't do myself.
Weaternpro (Leitrim) - Posts: 63 - 07/05/2023 00:42:19
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Hope ye feel a bit better after watching that doing sligo got ,and Galway n 1st gear
Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 308 - 07/05/2023 15:37:03
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Replying To Timmy86: "Hope ye feel a bit better after watching that doing sligo got ,and Galway n 1st gear" Not really bit yes the gap is big.
Good luck to Sligo in the next games.
joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 517 - 07/05/2023 16:50:12
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Replying To Timmy86: "Hope ye feel a bit better after watching that doing sligo got ,and Galway n 1st gear" We know all about it lad and take no joy in it.
masseyferguson (Leitrim) - Posts: 107 - 07/05/2023 18:23:18
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I put myself back through the torture of watching the NY Game. By god did we throw a game away. In a way it sort of gave me comfort. We should have won the game comfortably. Our shooting statistics were pathetic to be honest but we did have some real good performances on the day aswell. Mark Plunkett was the outstanding player on the field on either team, Paddy Maguire was excellent and Pearce Dolan was good.
From what I hear the response by the players since New York has been brilliant. A few squad players like Fergal McTague and Conor Dwyer are rehabbing and focusing on their clubs this was always likely to be the case. Ryan O'Rourke won't feature for the county team this year and maybe not Fenagh either at this rate.
We have played and beaten both Carlow and Wicklow in recent weeks. Which is a good barometer going into the Tailteann Cup.
Quite apparent that we have an issues in our full back line and half back line along with a major problem with our own kickouts - As impressive as it was for O'Donnell to save some penalties his kickouts were nowhere near inter-county standard.
Here's the team I would expect to line out on Sunday in Belfast.
Nevin O'Donnell
Paddy Maguire Tom Quinn Mark Diffley
Cillian McGloin Shane Quinn Aidan Flynn
Donal Wrynn
Pearce Dolan
Mark Plunkett Paul Keaney Darragh Rooney
Evan Sweeney Keith Beirne Jack Heslin
Leitrim1234 (Leitrim) - Posts: 322 - 09/05/2023 10:32:36
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Replying To Leitrim1234: "I put myself back through the torture of watching the NY Game. By god did we throw a game away. In a way it sort of gave me comfort. We should have won the game comfortably. Our shooting statistics were pathetic to be honest but we did have some real good performances on the day aswell. Mark Plunkett was the outstanding player on the field on either team, Paddy Maguire was excellent and Pearce Dolan was good.
From what I hear the response by the players since New York has been brilliant. A few squad players like Fergal McTague and Conor Dwyer are rehabbing and focusing on their clubs this was always likely to be the case. Ryan O'Rourke won't feature for the county team this year and maybe not Fenagh either at this rate.
We have played and beaten both Carlow and Wicklow in recent weeks. Which is a good barometer going into the Tailteann Cup.
Quite apparent that we have an issues in our full back line and half back line along with a major problem with our own kickouts - As impressive as it was for O'Donnell to save some penalties his kickouts were nowhere near inter-county standard.
Here's the team I would expect to line out on Sunday in Belfast.
Nevin O'Donnell
Paddy Maguire Tom Quinn Mark Diffley
Cillian McGloin Shane Quinn Aidan Flynn
Donal Wrynn
Pearce Dolan
Mark Plunkett Paul Keaney Darragh Rooney
Evan Sweeney Keith Beirne Jack Heslin" We should have been 10 points up at halftime. They're well capable of winning all their games. Hopefully they've learned their lesson and realise that discipline includes completing the simple tasks perfectly everytime. It was laziness that lost it for us. As I said at the time, the New York game wasn't the first time that it was a problem. The New York game just exposed it for everyone to see.
I agree with your analysis of Plunkett, Dolan and Maguire. Plunkett has the skill and the brain to provide cover for the backs as well as launching attacks. Hopefully Evan Sweeney will start and its a big addition to have Darragh Rooney back.
Anyway, best of luck to them.
ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 145 - 09/05/2023 12:13:57
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Replying To ThePowerhouse: "We should have been 10 points up at halftime. They're well capable of winning all their games. Hopefully they've learned their lesson and realise that discipline includes completing the simple tasks perfectly everytime. It was laziness that lost it for us. As I said at the time, the New York game wasn't the first time that it was a problem. The New York game just exposed it for everyone to see.
I agree with your analysis of Plunkett, Dolan and Maguire. Plunkett has the skill and the brain to provide cover for the backs as well as launching attacks. Hopefully Evan Sweeney will start and its a big addition to have Darragh Rooney back.
Anyway, best of luck to them." I see a bus or two is going but cant see a big crowd of us travelling, hopefully be good support at the fermanagh and wexford games
gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 579 - 09/05/2023 14:27:53
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Hopefully the lads have just put the NY game behind them, knuckled down and concentrated on some good preparation ahead of the Tailteann cup. Just move on, learn the lessons to be learned and be as proper and dedicated as possible moving forward. Some home truths and some serious serious talks must have taken place between players and management. The vitriol on social media and I've no doubt what they have heard around the county was shocking so they have a chance now to go any show what they are made of.
I know if I was on the panel I'd be chomping at the bit to get back out in the Leitrim colours and show people how good we are and I'm sure the Leitrim team are raring to go and give the competition a real shot. The very best of luck to them.
I'm still hoping we get NY in Carrick in the quarter finals
leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 674 - 09/05/2023 20:46:02
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Replying To Weaternpro: "I witnessed something this evening when at a game a current Referee sent of for verbally abusing his own refereeing colleague it was shocking. I'd be the first to admit i'd shout at a ref if the call went against my Club but its a horrible job that I wouldn't do myself." Who was sent off??
Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 351 - 10/05/2023 14:06:54
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Replying To leitrim4sam: "Hopefully the lads have just put the NY game behind them, knuckled down and concentrated on some good preparation ahead of the Tailteann cup. Just move on, learn the lessons to be learned and be as proper and dedicated as possible moving forward. Some home truths and some serious serious talks must have taken place between players and management. The vitriol on social media and I've no doubt what they have heard around the county was shocking so they have a chance now to go any show what they are made of.
I know if I was on the panel I'd be chomping at the bit to get back out in the Leitrim colours and show people how good we are and I'm sure the Leitrim team are raring to go and give the competition a real shot. The very best of luck to them.
I'm still hoping we get NY in Carrick in the quarter finals" New York take the place of the lowest ranked team who places third in the preliminary quarter final (which will be more than likely us) even if we win one game we will not advance unless the likes of Carlow, Waterford or London finish third in their respective groups. We more-less have to win 2 games to advance.
Hatchetman76 (Leitrim) - Posts: 19 - 10/05/2023 15:16:25
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Replying To leitrim4sam: "Hopefully the lads have just put the NY game behind them, knuckled down and concentrated on some good preparation ahead of the Tailteann cup. Just move on, learn the lessons to be learned and be as proper and dedicated as possible moving forward. Some home truths and some serious serious talks must have taken place between players and management. The vitriol on social media and I've no doubt what they have heard around the county was shocking so they have a chance now to go any show what they are made of.
I know if I was on the panel I'd be chomping at the bit to get back out in the Leitrim colours and show people how good we are and I'm sure the Leitrim team are raring to go and give the competition a real shot. The very best of luck to them.
I'm still hoping we get NY in Carrick in the quarter finals" New York take the place of the lowest ranked team who places third in the preliminary quarter final (which will be more than likely us) even if we win one game we will not advance unless the likes of Carlow, Waterford or London finish third in their respective groups. We more-less have to win 2 games to advance.
Hatchetman76 (Leitrim) - Posts: 19 - 10/05/2023 15:38:21
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Replying To Hatchetman76: "New York take the place of the lowest ranked team who places third in the preliminary quarter final (which will be more than likely us) even if we win one game we will not advance unless the likes of Carlow, Waterford or London finish third in their respective groups. We more-less have to win 2 games to advance." Either you or me have the wrong end of the stick here.
I think that you think the lowest ranked team that places third is based on league positions from the national league. Whereas my interpretation is it's the lowest ranked third team based on the tailteann groups alone. So whoever out of the third placed teams has the lowest number of points in the taillteann groups is eliminated. If teams level on points then the lowest score difference amongst them that finished level on points etc etc And the teams are separated like that.
On another note I notice a few posters on about Maxwells and Nevins kickouts. Any player can kick the ball out it doesn't have to be the goalkeeper. Nevin has been excellent in his shot shopping since going in to goals. Doesn't he play out field for club? Why doesn't someone else kick it out who is a more accurate kicker and utilise Nevin in the backs as another option.
Just a thought
leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 674 - 10/05/2023 20:43:32
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Best third place is determined by total points you hit in your group then score difference etc.
Not based on where you finished in the national league
SeanMacDiarmada (Leitrim) - Posts: 408 - 11/05/2023 08:03:26
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Replying To leitrim4sam: "Either you or me have the wrong end of the stick here.
I think that you think the lowest ranked team that places third is based on league positions from the national league. Whereas my interpretation is it's the lowest ranked third team based on the tailteann groups alone. So whoever out of the third placed teams has the lowest number of points in the taillteann groups is eliminated. If teams level on points then the lowest score difference amongst them that finished level on points etc etc And the teams are separated like that.
On another note I notice a few posters on about Maxwells and Nevins kickouts. Any player can kick the ball out it doesn't have to be the goalkeeper. Nevin has been excellent in his shot shopping since going in to goals. Doesn't he play out field for club? Why doesn't someone else kick it out who is a more accurate kicker and utilise Nevin in the backs as another option.
Just a thought" I hope your joking here lad.
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Yes, the league ranking doesn't come into play for Preliminary quarter finals
The four preliminary quarter-finals will consist of the second placed teams being at home against New York and the three "best placed" third place teams in each group subject to avoiding of repeat provincial final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round One.
The three "best placed" third-placed teams across the four groups shall be determined using the following criteria.
(i) Total Number of Points
(ii) Score difference - subtracting the total Scores against from the Scores for
(iii) Highest Total Score For
(iv) Highest Total Goals For
(v) Lowest Total Goals Against
muscles (Sligo) - Posts: 464 - 11/05/2023 13:05:05
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Replying To leitrim4sam: "Either you or me have the wrong end of the stick here.
I think that you think the lowest ranked team that places third is based on league positions from the national league. Whereas my interpretation is it's the lowest ranked third team based on the tailteann groups alone. So whoever out of the third placed teams has the lowest number of points in the taillteann groups is eliminated. If teams level on points then the lowest score difference amongst them that finished level on points etc etc And the teams are separated like that.
On another note I notice a few posters on about Maxwells and Nevins kickouts. Any player can kick the ball out it doesn't have to be the goalkeeper. Nevin has been excellent in his shot shopping since going in to goals. Doesn't he play out field for club? Why doesn't someone else kick it out who is a more accurate kicker and utilise Nevin in the backs as another option.
Just a thought" I think if an outfield player takes the kick out, the goalkeeper has to stay in the small rectangle.
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Replying To Rossiemad: "I think if an outfield player takes the kick out, the goalkeeper has to stay in the small rectangle." Yes, keeper must be in small square
reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 374 - 11/05/2023 16:52:07
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