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Not putting pressure on the opposition shooters has been the main issue for us defensively under these new rules.
1st half v London was the same as we stood off them to to allow 8 scores including a few two pointers. London coming into that game had only scored three two pointers in seven Div 4 games before that.
Thankfully we sharpened up 2nd half with the aid of the strong wind and put pressure on them as they ended up only scoring 0-3 (2fs) 2nd half.
Galway scored 29 two pointers in seven Div 1 games and should we stand off the likes of Conroy, Walsh etc and they'll score two pointers for fun so hopefully we have our homework done and plan in place to be as competitive as possible on Easter Sunday in Salthill.
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Replying To dave1988: "Galway roscommon and mayo all did what they had to do the weekend and all 3 teams from what I saw have plenty to work on. For ourselves it's just crazy how we stand of teams and let them shoot under no pressure. I just don't see that working against Galway who will kick 2 pointers for fun. I'm praying burke has a plan defensively for championship and they were holding back a bit. Around the middle 3rd these days you need big strong athletic footballers able to do everything from being very good defensively very good going forward and able to win ball around the middle is vital. I personally feel enda is carrying a knock or something he just isn't right so far this year. Great to see Ben do well the weekend but we need to up everything now our intensity in defense and how we attack needs to be upped big time. We will all know in two weeks where this team really is. We can win if we get things right and if we do I want to see consistency for the summer. The days of getting ourselves up for 1 or 2 games a year won't cut it anymore." Galway will kill us with 2 pointers if we don't put pressure on kickers. I actually liked Seanie Mcs suggestion of sticking Enda in at 14. OK maybe not for the full game but it would be great to mix things up a bit and put him in there on a few occassions during the game. He would be a great option to kick quick ball into if he's left man on man.
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Roscommon U20 team to play Galway in Tuam tomorrow evening.
Patrick Gaynor - Western Gaels
Keelan Kelly - Padraig Pearses
Tommy Morris - St Aidans
Cillian Campbell - St Barry's
Daniel Hagney - Michael Glaveys
Eoghan Carthy - Roscommon Gaels
Conor Kelly - Boyle
Niall Heneghan - Michael Glaveys
David Higgins - Western Gaels
Eoin Collins - St Croans
Ryan Dowling - Roscommon Gaels
Cathal McKeon - Boyle
John Curran - Castlerea
Rory Carthy - Roscommon Gaels
John McGuinness- Roscommon Gaels
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Sean Kelly - Clann na nGael
Ruairi Kilcline - St Dominics
Rory Coyle - St Aidans
Ciaran O'Reilly - Roscommon Gaels
Conor Grogan - Roscommon Gaels
Brian Greene - Eire Og
Ruadhan Henry - St Michaels
Brendan Murphy - St Brigids
Eanna Nolan - Western Gaels
After this round of games we'll have a full idea to where we stand and what will be needed in the final round next week to reach the knock out stages. Best of luck to the young rossies in Tuam tomorrow.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4005 - 08/04/2025 17:54:33
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Replying To FullOfPorter: "Galway will kill us with 2 pointers if we don't put pressure on kickers. I actually liked Seanie Mcs suggestion of sticking Enda in at 14. OK maybe not for the full game but it would be great to mix things up a bit and put him in there on a few occassions during the game. He would be a great option to kick quick ball into if he's left man on man." Two pointers ? They'll destroy us with goals and points too we're wide open
Like everyone else I hope there's a plan can't see it personally hope I'm wrong !
rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 640 - 08/04/2025 19:46:09
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A draw in Tuam for our U20 footballers. A match that could have went either way but we lead by 0-14 to 1-8 and really should have closed it out on Galway but on decision making wasn't the best. Still a draw tonight will be fine should we avoid defeat against Leitrim in the Hyde next week and if we do we'll be into the semi final v Sligo unless the yeats men pull off a shock to beat Mayo.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4005 - 09/04/2025 20:20:44
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Replying To The_analyser: "A draw in Tuam for our U20 footballers. A match that could have went either way but we lead by 0-14 to 1-8 and really should have closed it out on Galway but on decision making wasn't the best. Still a draw tonight will be fine should we avoid defeat against Leitrim in the Hyde next week and if we do we'll be into the semi final v Sligo unless the yeats men pull off a shock to beat Mayo." A poor enough game quality wise I felt. Thought Roscommon were the better team overall and should really have held out for the win. However Galway cut through our defence with ease at times and should have scored at least 2 goals. Fortunately for us Galway didn't appear to have any finishers in their team. Some of their forward play was poor. Roscommon look to have a tidy player in Rory Carthy but other than him there wasn't too many to stand out. The chance for Ros near the end where Dowling went for goal was the critical play in the game. He really should have either passed the ball to the free Ros player or just popped it over the bar. Anyway he'll learn from that. Hard to see us beating Mayo in the final. That's obviously assuming we beat Leitrim next week. Mayo look a cut above the rest at this age level. At least Ros can go into that game with little or no pressure on them if they make it that far. Still it's very promising to see us still so competitive at both minor and U20 level. Ros Comáin abú
ComainRos (Roscommon) - Posts: 148 - 09/04/2025 21:21:09
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Replying To ComainRos: "A poor enough game quality wise I felt. Thought Roscommon were the better team overall and should really have held out for the win. However Galway cut through our defence with ease at times and should have scored at least 2 goals. Fortunately for us Galway didn't appear to have any finishers in their team. Some of their forward play was poor. Roscommon look to have a tidy player in Rory Carthy but other than him there wasn't too many to stand out. The chance for Ros near the end where Dowling went for goal was the critical play in the game. He really should have either passed the ball to the free Ros player or just popped it over the bar. Anyway he'll learn from that. Hard to see us beating Mayo in the final. That's obviously assuming we beat Leitrim next week. Mayo look a cut above the rest at this age level. At least Ros can go into that game with little or no pressure on them if they make it that far. Still it's very promising to see us still so competitive at both minor and U20 level. Ros Comáin abú" Apologies, I realise that we play Sligo in a semi final assuming we beat Leitrim and Mayo beat Sligo next week. Still a lot of ball to be played and should be plenty of excitement next week.
ComainRos (Roscommon) - Posts: 148 - 09/04/2025 22:18:29
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Replying To ComainRos: "A poor enough game quality wise I felt. Thought Roscommon were the better team overall and should really have held out for the win. However Galway cut through our defence with ease at times and should have scored at least 2 goals. Fortunately for us Galway didn't appear to have any finishers in their team. Some of their forward play was poor. Roscommon look to have a tidy player in Rory Carthy but other than him there wasn't too many to stand out. The chance for Ros near the end where Dowling went for goal was the critical play in the game. He really should have either passed the ball to the free Ros player or just popped it over the bar. Anyway he'll learn from that. Hard to see us beating Mayo in the final. That's obviously assuming we beat Leitrim next week. Mayo look a cut above the rest at this age level. At least Ros can go into that game with little or no pressure on them if they make it that far. Still it's very promising to see us still so competitive at both minor and U20 level. Ros Comáin abú" Beating Leitrim would mean a semi final and likely against Sligo. Mayo clearly the best having won the last three Connacht U17 titles in a row but on the day in a final you'll never know.
I thought John Curran also looks good. Conor Kelly with some big scores also. Two midfielders have improved from round one against Mayo. Eoghan Carthy at six probably the most consistent player Roscommon have at this level.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3573 - 09/04/2025 22:49:35
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Replying To ComainRos: "A poor enough game quality wise I felt. Thought Roscommon were the better team overall and should really have held out for the win. However Galway cut through our defence with ease at times and should have scored at least 2 goals. Fortunately for us Galway didn't appear to have any finishers in their team. Some of their forward play was poor. Roscommon look to have a tidy player in Rory Carthy but other than him there wasn't too many to stand out. The chance for Ros near the end where Dowling went for goal was the critical play in the game. He really should have either passed the ball to the free Ros player or just popped it over the bar. Anyway he'll learn from that. Hard to see us beating Mayo in the final. That's obviously assuming we beat Leitrim next week. Mayo look a cut above the rest at this age level. At least Ros can go into that game with little or no pressure on them if they make it that far. Still it's very promising to see us still so competitive at both minor and U20 level. Ros Comáin abú" Ya have the small matter of a semi final to play as well!
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 487 - 09/04/2025 22:51:30
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Replying To ComainRos: "A poor enough game quality wise I felt. Thought Roscommon were the better team overall and should really have held out for the win. However Galway cut through our defence with ease at times and should have scored at least 2 goals. Fortunately for us Galway didn't appear to have any finishers in their team. Some of their forward play was poor. Roscommon look to have a tidy player in Rory Carthy but other than him there wasn't too many to stand out. The chance for Ros near the end where Dowling went for goal was the critical play in the game. He really should have either passed the ball to the free Ros player or just popped it over the bar. Anyway he'll learn from that. Hard to see us beating Mayo in the final. That's obviously assuming we beat Leitrim next week. Mayo look a cut above the rest at this age level. At least Ros can go into that game with little or no pressure on them if they make it that far. Still it's very promising to see us still so competitive at both minor and U20 level. Ros Comáin abú" Very good analysis. I thought Galway absolutely sliced through us first half. We were lucky as cut cats to be ahead at half time but in fairness we nailed most of out chances up front. Got the luck second half after the Galway revival and the chance we fluffed late on to put it to bed was so poorly executed . A good result though and another point will see us into the semis. Only my opinion but it would be good to see more players involved like Liam Coyle from Aidans, Mick Moran from Dominics and Jack Donnelly from Ros Gaels and hopefully Robert Heneghan ( injury doubt)as they are better than some in there at the moment.
moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1125 - 09/04/2025 23:02:31
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Replying To moros: "Very good analysis. I thought Galway absolutely sliced through us first half. We were lucky as cut cats to be ahead at half time but in fairness we nailed most of out chances up front. Got the luck second half after the Galway revival and the chance we fluffed late on to put it to bed was so poorly executed . A good result though and another point will see us into the semis. Only my opinion but it would be good to see more players involved like Liam Coyle from Aidans, Mick Moran from Dominics and Jack Donnelly from Ros Gaels and hopefully Robert Heneghan ( injury doubt)as they are better than some in there at the moment." Roscommon defenders marked Galway best forwards from play well in that game in Costello.Monaghan,Mulryan. The slicing through came mainly via half back with big pace in Coen,Mannion and O'Connor who aren't noted finishers however.
Everyone on the stand side of the ground thought that was goal for Roscommon late on, even a point at that stage would have been a enough to win but a draw still a good result should Roscommon avoid defeat to Leitrim.
Galway will look back on the one point defeat to Sligo the most if as expected make an exit from the Connacht championship.
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Replying To moros: "Very good analysis. I thought Galway absolutely sliced through us first half. We were lucky as cut cats to be ahead at half time but in fairness we nailed most of out chances up front. Got the luck second half after the Galway revival and the chance we fluffed late on to put it to bed was so poorly executed . A good result though and another point will see us into the semis. Only my opinion but it would be good to see more players involved like Liam Coyle from Aidans, Mick Moran from Dominics and Jack Donnelly from Ros Gaels and hopefully Robert Heneghan ( injury doubt)as they are better than some in there at the moment." Roscommon were very poor at closing that game out which they should have done with their 3 point lead near the end of the match. Very poor decision making by the Ros player through on goal who as another poster said should have taken his point or should have passed. What was the Galway 2 pointer free for that levelled the game. Our goalkeeper had kicked the ball out over the sideline. There was a very high scoring game between Sligo and Leitrim won by Sligo. We need to avoid defeat against Leitrim next week to get to a semi final likely against Sligo. Mayo look a cut above the rest in Connacht at this grade this season .
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2354 - 10/04/2025 04:30:17
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Replying To moros: "Very good analysis. I thought Galway absolutely sliced through us first half. We were lucky as cut cats to be ahead at half time but in fairness we nailed most of out chances up front. Got the luck second half after the Galway revival and the chance we fluffed late on to put it to bed was so poorly executed . A good result though and another point will see us into the semis. Only my opinion but it would be good to see more players involved like Liam Coyle from Aidans, Mick Moran from Dominics and Jack Donnelly from Ros Gaels and hopefully Robert Heneghan ( injury doubt)as they are better than some in there at the moment." Neither team will be in the shake up for AI honours but at least we have it in our own hands to make the Connacht knock out stages.
No doubt that was the aim at the beginning.
I know there have been changes in personnel of both squads but 3 years ago our u17s were hammered by Galway in Tuam...20 points or more.
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Very strange under 20 game which could have gone either way. Galway had three goal chances in the first half, most of them created by their dangerous No 7 Sean O Connor. They also hit the post late in the second half. Roscommon also missed two clear-cut goal chances themselves in the second half by not passing to another free player for a tap-in.
Several Roscommon kickouts went long (50% -50%) while it looked to me that other shorter options were on. Like Endgame, no idea why the last free was awarded for the 2 pointer after the kickout.
Certainly should not take Leitrim for granted, who led Sligo by 8 points after 20 minutes and scored 2-22. We only scored ourselves 0-14 last night.
Are Leitrim seniors out against Mayo 3 days after the under 20 game. This might have some implications for the Leitrim team selection.
Any feedback on the Robert Heneghan injury. He was impressive in the Sigerson.
letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 710 - 10/04/2025 10:49:43
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Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Neither team will be in the shake up for AI honours but at least we have it in our own hands to make the Connacht knock out stages.
No doubt that was the aim at the beginning.
I know there have been changes in personnel of both squads but 3 years ago our u17s were hammered by Galway in Tuam...20 points or more." 3-19 to 1-12 was the score in that U17 game three years ago. Éanna Monaghan was man of the match with 1-5. Galway had ten of those starters featuring again last night and Éanna Monaghan was held to 0-1 which was a free.
Roscommon was much changed from then.
S Kelly,
E Nolan,J Donnelly,T Morris,
C Kelly,R Hanley,E Quinn
R Carthy,R McDermott,
B Murphy,E Murray,B Greene,
J Curran,R Heneghan,R Dowling
Subs brought on L Taylor,K Ryan,M Moran,TJ Hannon,J Betts
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4005 - 10/04/2025 11:41:28
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Strange game last night for sure, but it was a deserved win for Ros, much more efficient up top and better drilled than our lads by the looks of it.
Best of luck for remainder of campaign, ye should have enough for Sligo in the semi.
ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1654 - 10/04/2025 15:20:08
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Best of luck for remainder of campaign, ye should have enough for Sligo in the semi." Thanks but we didn't win last night. It finished in a draw. Can anybody clarify the reason for the Galway free at the end that levelled the game. Those two pointer frees are ridiculous anyway and should be abolished.
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Final group game for our U17s against Leitrim in Drumshanbo at 6:30pm. We are already into the Connacht Final and are lining out with a much changed starting team, 12 changes in total from the win over Mayo. Opportunity for plenty tonight to put their hands up for a provincial final place.
Mark Carroll - Kilmore
Conor Tighe - Strokestown
Tadgh Fallon - St Brigids
David Mannion - St Aidans
Rory Connolly - Oran
Tadgh Rogers - St Barry's
James Cassidy - Western Gaels
Conor Kelly - Shannon Gaels
Adam Killian - Roscommon Gaels
John Price - Pádraig Pearses
Dean Casey - Ballinameen
Luke Shally - Kilbride
Marc Shally - Kilbride
Seán Vaughan - Castlerea
Brion O'Dowd - St Michael's
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Zac Mullally - Clann na nGael
Jack Brooks - Pádraig Pearses
Colm Fitzgerald - St Dominics
Enda Browne - Pádraig Pearses
Diarmuid O' Higgins - Clann na nGael
Seamie Carthy - Roscommon Gaels
Dara Curran - Castlerea
Ronan Carr - St Ciaráns
Alex Oates - St Michael's
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Replying To endgame: "Thanks but we didn't win last night. It finished in a draw. Can anybody clarify the reason for the Galway free at the end that levelled the game. Those two pointer frees are ridiculous anyway and should be abolished." Haha indeed. In the context of the group we will mark that as a loss as we are as good as out!! Not sure on free, looked a strange call. Ref didn't leave much time above the 3 mins either considering the stop start nature of the added time.
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The gamble of resting so many starters and giving other a chance paid off as Roscommon U17s pull off a hard earned and deserved 2 point win away to Leitrim this evening. Four week break now until the Connacht Final I can imagine one or two hard challenges will be played before them. Mayo winner against Sligo tonight so it will be them or Galway we'll face in the final. Well done to all the players and management.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4005 - 11/04/2025 20:21:00
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