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Replying To GerBo:  "It has all the potential to be a sell-out or very close to it like the 2016 league clash (and thankfully we will have a pitch that will be playable this time). However, if both Mayo and Ros win next weekend, surely we will just see shadow boxing given that we lock horns with yourselves four weeks later."
They'll, hopefully, both be pushing to qualify for the final though, even if it'd not be ideal so close to championship game. McStay back in the Hyde with Mayo and lives around the corner, probably a few Roscommon supporters still not fans of him. They don't seem to anticipate close to a full house for March 5th, no juvenile tickets on sale. Should be a great atmosphere and a cracking game of football.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 20/02/2023 13:32:27    2459367

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Had a look back at the game last night when I got back to Dublin and was even more impressed with the performance. Mark McHugh and the S&C deserve great credit for the shape that the team are in at the moment. The team put in a huge shift and the trackers on the backs of Dylan Ruane, Conor Daly, Robbie Dolan, Ciaran Lennon and several others must be off the charts. Also great to see the communication between the players on the pitch with Conor Daly playing a leading role. They are listening to advice from each other and are obviously playing for each other.

However we should not lose the run of ourselves as Armagh had at least five goal chances. Two of them were blocked by fantastic cover by Ciaran Lennon (fantastic block) and by Keith Doyle getting his finger tips to the pass from Rian O' Neill to the unmarked S. Campbell and deflecting it back to the keeper. Jason Duffy had a clear goal chance in the first half and Keith Doyle legs blocked another shot towards the end, which he did not know too much about! Keith Doyle also took a black card for the team towards the end so he was involved in three Armagh goal chances.
I was really interested in a comment Davy Burke made after the match . "It is very hard to track back (defend) against the wind". (In other words when your team has the wind). The hard work on the training ground is really paying off for the Rossies at the moment, and the hard running of our defenders really put it up to the Armagh attackers in the second half. (Tracking back against the wind)

I also had a look back at the under 20 All Ireland final a couple of weeks ago and the players from that team (Doyle, O'Carroll, Cregg, Walsh, Ruane etc) have really developed a lot physically in the last year in particular. Well done again to the S&C team and also to the players themselves.

Great to see that three Connacht teams are the top three teams in division 1 at the moment.
Q1. If Roscommon win next week against Monaghan and are safe for next year, should they push on and try to win the league or try to integrate new players and systems before the Connacht championship? It is a long time since Pat Lindsey raised the cup when Roscommon won the league final in Croke Park?
Q2. Should Mayo or Roscommon reach the league final (2nd April) would they really go for it and show their playing strategy before Roscommon play Mayo in Castlebar a week later (9th April) in the Connacht championship? As there is a back door to the All Ireland this year, which competition is most important? (Division 1 League final or Connacht Championship)

Hope to see a great turnout of Rossie supporters in Monaghan again next week as this team really deserve our support.
Well done to the Armagh supporters who travelled in great numbers to support their team and were gracious and courteous in defeat. I was sitting close to many of them and they were generally unbiased in their views which is great to see and hear. Hopefully we will have another rivalry again at the top table, to match that of the late 70's and early 80's.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 494 - 20/02/2023 14:05:02    2459383

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Had a look back at the game last night when I got back to Dublin and was even more impressed with the performance. Mark McHugh and the S&C deserve great credit for the shape that the team are in at the moment. The team put in a huge shift and the trackers on the backs of Dylan Ruane, Conor Daly, Robbie Dolan, Ciaran Lennon and several others must be off the charts. Also great to see the communication between the players on the pitch with Conor Daly playing a leading role. They are listening to advice from each other and are obviously playing for each other.

However we should not lose the run of ourselves as Armagh had at least five goal chances. Two of them were blocked by fantastic cover by Ciaran Lennon (fantastic block) and by Keith Doyle getting his finger tips to the pass from Rian O' Neill to the unmarked S. Campbell and deflecting it back to the keeper. Jason Duffy had a clear goal chance in the first half and Keith Doyle legs blocked another shot towards the end, which he did not know too much about! Keith Doyle also took a black card for the team towards the end so he was involved in three Armagh goal chances.
I was really interested in a comment Davy Burke made after the match . "It is very hard to track back (defend) against the wind". (In other words when your team has the wind). The hard work on the training ground is really paying off for the Rossies at the moment, and the hard running of our defenders really put it up to the Armagh attackers in the second half. (Tracking back against the wind)

I also had a look back at the under 20 All Ireland final a couple of weeks ago and the players from that team (Doyle, O'Carroll, Cregg, Walsh, Ruane etc) have really developed a lot physically in the last year in particular. Well done again to the S&C team and also to the players themselves.

Great to see that three Connacht teams are the top three teams in division 1 at the moment.
Q1. If Roscommon win next week against Monaghan and are safe for next year, should they push on and try to win the league or try to integrate new players and systems before the Connacht championship? It is a long time since Pat Lindsey raised the cup when Roscommon won the league final in Croke Park?
Q2. Should Mayo or Roscommon reach the league final (2nd April) would they really go for it and show their playing strategy before Roscommon play Mayo in Castlebar a week later (9th April) in the Connacht championship? As there is a back door to the All Ireland this year, which competition is most important? (Division 1 League final or Connacht Championship)

Hope to see a great turnout of Rossie supporters in Monaghan again next week as this team really deserve our support.
Well done to the Armagh supporters who travelled in great numbers to support their team and were gracious and courteous in defeat. I was sitting close to many of them and they were generally unbiased in their views which is great to see and hear. Hopefully we will have another rivalry again at the top table, to match that of the late 70's and early 80's."
If it is to be Roscommon v Mayo Div 1 final (doubt it will be) GAA HQ should have the common sense with two options 1) to double it up with the Connacht quarter final whereby the winner wins the Div 1 title and goes on to play Galway in the semi final 2) scrap the league final and give the title to which ever team finishes top of the Div 1 table.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 20/02/2023 14:46:41    2459403

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@letsgetgoing pretty much all of the Armagh goal scoring chances came from us in possession of the ball and losing it cheaply and most of our defenders then caught out of position, thankfully the likes of Doyle,Lennon tracked back and helped out but certainly an area that needs to improve before the championship.

In the terms of shots on goal it was 23 to 21 in favour of us. Our 10 misses included 7 wides and three that dropped into the keepers hands. We also had a few goal chances with the best one falling to Conor Cox which he should have laid off to Dolan for a tap in. I'd like to see us get a consistent 60% plus on our shot conversion rate. Its was 64% v Tyrone, 45% against Galway and 57% yesterday against Armagh.

Long story short while its great to be top of the table with 3 wins from 3 we still have plenty of room for improvement and I'll gladly take whatever luck comes our way as we are long overdue it in Div 1 over the years.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3744 - 20/02/2023 15:24:44    2459430

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Replying To The_analyser:  "17k with unreserved seating. Another 2k for reserved seating for Championship games. Mayo game will be close to a sell out."
What's the story now with The Hyde if we were to get to a Connacht Final and be due a home fixture. Would it be allowed by the Connacht Council to stage the match.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2156 - 20/02/2023 16:35:31    2459465

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Replying To endgame:  "What's the story now with The Hyde if we were to get to a Connacht Final and be due a home fixture. Would it be allowed by the Connacht Council to stage the match."
Would the same question apply if we beat Mayo and we then possibly play Galway in the semi final in the Hyde. They would also attract a big crowd maybe even more that a Connacht final if we were to reach one.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 494 - 20/02/2023 16:49:46    2459474

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "It seem like there was more than 8k. What is actually the Hyde capacity now for these league games? They still don't seem to have fully finished the seating repairs.

The Mayo game will push it close to capacity surely."
No work done to date on the seats by the looks of things. Plenty of seats at the back of the main stand were badly damaged or broken completely meaning people couldn't actually sit in them. A real pity but hopefully work will start soon to repair these.

ComainRos (Roscommon) - Posts: 103 - 20/02/2023 16:58:05    2459476

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Replying To endgame:  "What's the story now with The Hyde if we were to get to a Connacht Final and be due a home fixture. Would it be allowed by the Connacht Council to stage the match."
If we get to the Final it will be against Sligo/Leitrim/NY/London. Home/away isn't used for Finals involving Sligo or Leitrim so that would be Castlebar as I suspect it would also be if NY or London get there.
Should Mayo or Galway reach the Final I'm afraid the Hyde will miss out.
IF we beat Mayo 9th April we'll have home venue v Galway 19k will more than enough for that.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1403 - 20/02/2023 17:43:15    2459489

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Replying To endgame:  "What's the story now with The Hyde if we were to get to a Connacht Final and be due a home fixture. Would it be allowed by the Connacht Council to stage the match."
As it stands no has to have at least 20k capacity to host a Connacht final. No such capacity restrictions in place for a Quarter or semi final.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3744 - 20/02/2023 18:38:24    2459500

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Super result yesterday and particularly the 2nd half display. Didn't look like that at half time. Couple of early points at start of 2nd half coupled with the two at end of first half really shifted the momentum. Armagh expected the wind to win it for them and to cut through us like they did in first half but they never really threatened except for the goal chance that they overcooked. As Peter Canavan said on Sunday Game last night the match was very similar to the Tyrone match.

Thought Conor Daly was excellent and I see he was the only Ross player to make team of week. For me he was man of the match but Enda got it. Tbf to Enda it was his best display in a long time ableit from the time he got his score near end of first half. Keith Doyle had his best outing and will grow in confidence for it. Took a while for him to come into the match also but did very well when he did. Robbie Dolan very similar took off aftwr he got his great score amd has been a revelation all year to date.

The forwards were solid without been spectacular. Ciaran Lennon super score and an evwn better goal saving block. Playing that role very well. Our bench made an impact again maybe not to the degree of previous two matches. However I see today's report that benches contributed to 6-57 when introduced over the weekend. Goes toyshop how much of a squad ga.e it now is.

Onto Clones and I'd expect some experimenting but not too much. Winning is a habit and so is losing. We know we are not going to win 7 league matches but I'd fancy starts for Colin Walsh, Richard Hughes, Daire Cregg.

Just on the Mayo match I don't see a sellout as its live on TV and its a later throw in at 2.45 and club action will be back in action by then.

SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 272 - 20/02/2023 20:06:06    2459519

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Seamus Qualter has taken over the Roscommon hurlers (again).

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 21/02/2023 12:11:09    2459565

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Replying To SmokieRoss:  "Super result yesterday and particularly the 2nd half display. Didn't look like that at half time. Couple of early points at start of 2nd half coupled with the two at end of first half really shifted the momentum. Armagh expected the wind to win it for them and to cut through us like they did in first half but they never really threatened except for the goal chance that they overcooked. As Peter Canavan said on Sunday Game last night the match was very similar to the Tyrone match.

Thought Conor Daly was excellent and I see he was the only Ross player to make team of week. For me he was man of the match but Enda got it. Tbf to Enda it was his best display in a long time ableit from the time he got his score near end of first half. Keith Doyle had his best outing and will grow in confidence for it. Took a while for him to come into the match also but did very well when he did. Robbie Dolan very similar took off aftwr he got his great score amd has been a revelation all year to date.

The forwards were solid without been spectacular. Ciaran Lennon super score and an evwn better goal saving block. Playing that role very well. Our bench made an impact again maybe not to the degree of previous two matches. However I see today's report that benches contributed to 6-57 when introduced over the weekend. Goes toyshop how much of a squad ga.e it now is.

Onto Clones and I'd expect some experimenting but not too much. Winning is a habit and so is losing. We know we are not going to win 7 league matches but I'd fancy starts for Colin Walsh, Richard Hughes, Daire Cregg.

Just on the Mayo match I don't see a sellout as its live on TV and its a later throw in at 2.45 and club action will be back in action by then."
I have to admit I wasn't sure what Lennon was offering from an attacking perspective at half forward but now it seems like he wants half forwards that are able to do a defensive job as well, and his brilliant block was the reward for this plus he is a worker willing to do a lot of running. Some of our one to one defending last year and probably going back much further hasn't been great but the lack of tracking by the half frowards was also a reason we used to look so opened up, which was very evident in last years Connacht final. That is something the new management seems to be trying to change. We still got opened up a few times against Armagh and Tyrone also had a great goal chance so hopefully this is an area we can keep improving on. Roscommon made Armagh work a lot harder for their scores in the second half. I thought we used the kick pass much better in the second half when countering, we were woefully slow moving the ball forward in the first half and it just made it look so easy for Armagh to set up defensively.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 773 - 21/02/2023 12:35:00    2459571

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There has been a lot of talk since Sunday evening about how Roscommon should approach the rest of the league with the championship around the corner. I did some research into the championship structure and schedule yesterday and from what I have seen lets go all out for the league. To me April 9th vs Mayo, while still a Connacht Championship game, doesn't have the same weight or in truth any major significance. I will explain my reason.

First and foremost while we're in a great position on six points, we still aren't 100% guaranteed safety, so we must be fully tuned for Clones on Sunday. Ian Cooney said in the Herald today, we still need a point to be mathematically safe. Just say the worst-case scenario happens this weekend, where Monaghan beat us and the other three teams on two points win, suddenly we're only two points above the drop zone and looking over our shoulder again. It mightn't happen often, but teams have been relegated on six points. So let's keep the run and momentum going and get a result on Sunday, in what is going to be an incredibly tough game. Monaghan are not the type of team you can afford to show up against even a small bit off it.

So if we do get a positive result Sunday, we're in a very strong position to make the league final and lets go for it. What a golden opportunity to win the second biggest national prize in GAA. Not like we're over-flooded with national medals and winning big games at Croke Park. It would bring this team on so much.

From what I have seen of this year's championship structure, there is no reward for winning a provincial championship whatsoever. Regardless of how the provincial championships go, everybody goes into a group stage, where everybody gets three games to make the quarter-finals. The only "reward" for provincial winners is being the top seed, but as we've seen from the Super Eights, you're still going to end up with hard teams in your group. And here we go, the 2nd and 3rd placed teams will play in a preliminary quarter-final (this was news to me and talk about totally diluting the championship). So you only need to win one group game to keep your chance of making the last eight. Doesn't really make winning your provincial championship just to be a "top seed" seem anyway important.

If anything you're now being punished for winning or going deep in your province, just to then discover you now find yourself in the same boat as a team that lost their opening game. No reward there for me. Beat Mayo and Galway, and let's be honest like 2019, that's going to take a lot out of us and than followed a Connacht final all in the space of four weeks and only a two-week break until the All-Ireland round-robin. Just say we lose to Mayo, we have a 5/6 week break until the All-Ireland series. Is that not more of a reward? A chance to have a proper block of pre-championship training like the traditional days after the intensity of the league structure.

I've had a lot of people saying to me "oh it still be massive for Roscommon to win Connacht", but is it now? I feel a run to winning Connacht will be our downfall in the All-Ireland series, considering potentially we be facing six or seven more games in about 10 weeks (I don't think we will make an All-Ireland final, but that just saying in case). We need to be fresh for when IMO the real championship starts. So to me winning the league would be far more valuable than winning Connacht.

I know a lot to get through there ( I tried to make it as short as possible haha) and I hope I made sense. This is just my opinion and I'm very interested to see what other people think. This is definitely that people will have different views on.

GerBo (Roscommon) - Posts: 79 - 21/02/2023 14:50:26    2459605

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Replying To GerBo:  "There has been a lot of talk since Sunday evening about how Roscommon should approach the rest of the league with the championship around the corner. I did some research into the championship structure and schedule yesterday and from what I have seen lets go all out for the league. To me April 9th vs Mayo, while still a Connacht Championship game, doesn't have the same weight or in truth any major significance. I will explain my reason.

First and foremost while we're in a great position on six points, we still aren't 100% guaranteed safety, so we must be fully tuned for Clones on Sunday. Ian Cooney said in the Herald today, we still need a point to be mathematically safe. Just say the worst-case scenario happens this weekend, where Monaghan beat us and the other three teams on two points win, suddenly we're only two points above the drop zone and looking over our shoulder again. It mightn't happen often, but teams have been relegated on six points. So let's keep the run and momentum going and get a result on Sunday, in what is going to be an incredibly tough game. Monaghan are not the type of team you can afford to show up against even a small bit off it.

So if we do get a positive result Sunday, we're in a very strong position to make the league final and lets go for it. What a golden opportunity to win the second biggest national prize in GAA. Not like we're over-flooded with national medals and winning big games at Croke Park. It would bring this team on so much.

From what I have seen of this year's championship structure, there is no reward for winning a provincial championship whatsoever. Regardless of how the provincial championships go, everybody goes into a group stage, where everybody gets three games to make the quarter-finals. The only "reward" for provincial winners is being the top seed, but as we've seen from the Super Eights, you're still going to end up with hard teams in your group. And here we go, the 2nd and 3rd placed teams will play in a preliminary quarter-final (this was news to me and talk about totally diluting the championship). So you only need to win one group game to keep your chance of making the last eight. Doesn't really make winning your provincial championship just to be a "top seed" seem anyway important.

If anything you're now being punished for winning or going deep in your province, just to then discover you now find yourself in the same boat as a team that lost their opening game. No reward there for me. Beat Mayo and Galway, and let's be honest like 2019, that's going to take a lot out of us and than followed a Connacht final all in the space of four weeks and only a two-week break until the All-Ireland round-robin. Just say we lose to Mayo, we have a 5/6 week break until the All-Ireland series. Is that not more of a reward? A chance to have a proper block of pre-championship training like the traditional days after the intensity of the league structure.

I've had a lot of people saying to me "oh it still be massive for Roscommon to win Connacht", but is it now? I feel a run to winning Connacht will be our downfall in the All-Ireland series, considering potentially we be facing six or seven more games in about 10 weeks (I don't think we will make an All-Ireland final, but that just saying in case). We need to be fresh for when IMO the real championship starts. So to me winning the league would be far more valuable than winning Connacht.

I know a lot to get through there ( I tried to make it as short as possible haha) and I hope I made sense. This is just my opinion and I'm very interested to see what other people think. This is definitely that people will have different views on."
Agree 100%. I'd rather win a div 1 title this year than a Connacht title considering how little it means in the grand scheme of thing. Being first seeds etc doesn't count for that much either, we'd still be underdogs in most games regardless of seedings. Finish the league well and focus on making a quarter final and being competitive should be the aim for this team.

Primrose_and_blue (Roscommon) - Posts: 68 - 21/02/2023 16:00:25    2459628

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Winning your province makes you a top seed and perhaps easier group. Win the group means you have a two week break to prepare for the All-Ireland quarter final.

Don't win the group it will be three games in three weeks. Which would be a round 3 group game, play off and All-Ireland quarter final against a rested team

In summary the best chance of winning AI quarter final will be to first win your province and i believe the loser of Mayo v Roscommon have 6 to 7 week break before they play the group stage and I'm not sure if that will be a help or hindrance.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 21/02/2023 16:56:12    2459640

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Replying To GerBo:  "There has been a lot of talk since Sunday evening about how Roscommon should approach the rest of the league with the championship around the corner. I did some research into the championship structure and schedule yesterday and from what I have seen lets go all out for the league. To me April 9th vs Mayo, while still a Connacht Championship game, doesn't have the same weight or in truth any major significance. I will explain my reason.

First and foremost while we're in a great position on six points, we still aren't 100% guaranteed safety, so we must be fully tuned for Clones on Sunday. Ian Cooney said in the Herald today, we still need a point to be mathematically safe. Just say the worst-case scenario happens this weekend, where Monaghan beat us and the other three teams on two points win, suddenly we're only two points above the drop zone and looking over our shoulder again. It mightn't happen often, but teams have been relegated on six points. So let's keep the run and momentum going and get a result on Sunday, in what is going to be an incredibly tough game. Monaghan are not the type of team you can afford to show up against even a small bit off it.

So if we do get a positive result Sunday, we're in a very strong position to make the league final and lets go for it. What a golden opportunity to win the second biggest national prize in GAA. Not like we're over-flooded with national medals and winning big games at Croke Park. It would bring this team on so much.

From what I have seen of this year's championship structure, there is no reward for winning a provincial championship whatsoever. Regardless of how the provincial championships go, everybody goes into a group stage, where everybody gets three games to make the quarter-finals. The only "reward" for provincial winners is being the top seed, but as we've seen from the Super Eights, you're still going to end up with hard teams in your group. And here we go, the 2nd and 3rd placed teams will play in a preliminary quarter-final (this was news to me and talk about totally diluting the championship). So you only need to win one group game to keep your chance of making the last eight. Doesn't really make winning your provincial championship just to be a "top seed" seem anyway important.

If anything you're now being punished for winning or going deep in your province, just to then discover you now find yourself in the same boat as a team that lost their opening game. No reward there for me. Beat Mayo and Galway, and let's be honest like 2019, that's going to take a lot out of us and than followed a Connacht final all in the space of four weeks and only a two-week break until the All-Ireland round-robin. Just say we lose to Mayo, we have a 5/6 week break until the All-Ireland series. Is that not more of a reward? A chance to have a proper block of pre-championship training like the traditional days after the intensity of the league structure.

I've had a lot of people saying to me "oh it still be massive for Roscommon to win Connacht", but is it now? I feel a run to winning Connacht will be our downfall in the All-Ireland series, considering potentially we be facing six or seven more games in about 10 weeks (I don't think we will make an All-Ireland final, but that just saying in case). We need to be fresh for when IMO the real championship starts. So to me winning the league would be far more valuable than winning Connacht.

I know a lot to get through there ( I tried to make it as short as possible haha) and I hope I made sense. This is just my opinion and I'm very interested to see what other people think. This is definitely that people will have different views on."
That would not be a bad aspiration and I agree it would be more valuable than a Connacht title. Winning or getting to the provincial final is only of benefit if you are not a Div 1 or Div 2 side now. If we lose to Mayo in the Connacht opener it seems like a big gap to be waiting for the the group games to start but I suppose that is down to management to have a team ready to go back into championship mode. It must be even more tricky for the Ulster teams to know how hard to push for the provincial final.

We'll know more after next weekend what the lay of the land is. I agree with really going for that game against Monaghan because as unlikely as it is to be relegated with 6 points, this could be the year it happens when you look at how results have panned out so far. Monaghan will be targetting that game as well as one to pick up points from. I don't think we'll get anything from the Kerry game so that leaves the Mayo and Donegal games. As said above as well, losing can be as much of a habit as winning.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 773 - 21/02/2023 17:04:54    2459641

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Winning your province makes you a top seed and perhaps easier group. Win the group means you have a two week break to prepare for the All-Ireland quarter final.

Don't win the group it will be three games in three weeks. Which would be a round 3 group game, play off and All-Ireland quarter final against a rested team

In summary the best chance of winning AI quarter final will be to first win your province and i believe the loser of Mayo v Roscommon have 6 to 7 week break before they play the group stage and I'm not sure if that will be a help or hindrance."
When it comes to the business end of championship is 3 games in 3 weeks really that bad if you've exited the province early? Mayo and Tyrone used to build great momentum in the qualifers and you would always hear that those Mayo teams enjoyed playing week in week out. I would wonder about that gap of 6-7 weeks though. Are you going back to a cold start then?

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 773 - 21/02/2023 17:09:03    2459642

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "When it comes to the business end of championship is 3 games in 3 weeks really that bad if you've exited the province early? Mayo and Tyrone used to build great momentum in the qualifers and you would always hear that those Mayo teams enjoyed playing week in week out. I would wonder about that gap of 6-7 weeks though. Are you going back to a cold start then?"
Three championship games in three weeks suits teams that are well conditioned and have good strength in depth. Lucky with injuries important also.

Mayo and Tyrone for those campaigns had professional level conditioning. Roscommon in the past have struggled with two championship games in a week as seen with the replays against Galway, Mayo in 2016, 2017. Maybe conditioning is a lot better now under new management, it will need to be for that type of high intensity championship schedule.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 21/02/2023 17:42:37    2459656

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "When it comes to the business end of championship is 3 games in 3 weeks really that bad if you've exited the province early? Mayo and Tyrone used to build great momentum in the qualifers and you would always hear that those Mayo teams enjoyed playing week in week out. I would wonder about that gap of 6-7 weeks though. Are you going back to a cold start then?"
Let's play Monaghan and hopefully get 2 points there.
Then see what strategy is best.
The Brian Cody theory is go to win every game. If you take the foot off the pedal the minute Div 1 safety is assured it might be impossible to get momentum back .
Winning Connacht means you have the Munster Finalists as seed 2, 1st game v seed 3 at home, 2nd game v seed 4 away and last v seed 2 Neutral venue.

Losing to Mayo means a break to 21st or 28th May.
Is that better than games every 2 weeks through April and May?

PS Wonder where gaerbo has been the last 12 months not knowing 3 out 4 go forward from the Groups.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1403 - 21/02/2023 18:58:03    2459668

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Let's play Monaghan and hopefully get 2 points there.
Then see what strategy is best.
The Brian Cody theory is go to win every game. If you take the foot off the pedal the minute Div 1 safety is assured it might be impossible to get momentum back .
Winning Connacht means you have the Munster Finalists as seed 2, 1st game v seed 3 at home, 2nd game v seed 4 away and last v seed 2 Neutral venue.

Losing to Mayo means a break to 21st or 28th May.
Is that better than games every 2 weeks through April and May?

PS Wonder where gaerbo has been the last 12 months not knowing 3 out 4 go forward from the Groups."
With 8 group stage matches (16 teams) to take place in neutral venues in a few weeks time, work on replacing the broken seats in the Hyde should take place as soon as possible if the Connacht Council hope to have some of these games played in Connacht. I have been saying this in previous historical posts, as I have do not believe that county grounds situated near the coast (Pearse Stadium, Markievicz Park, McHale Park) apart from Croke park, will be selected for many of these matches. THE CONNACHT COUNCIL NEED TO DEVELOP HYDE PARK AS A MATTER OR URGENCY, AS IT IS THE MOST CENTRAL COUNTY GROUND IN THE CONNACHT, if they have any sense.

After all the 24 group stage matches have been completed, the twelve teams left will have to be reduced to eight which means that additional pre-liminary quarter matches will also have to be played in neutral venues, I would expect?
We can then look forward to the All Ireland Quarter finals.

Therefore it is the Connacht Councils and all GAA supporters in the west of Ireland interest to see that work in the Hyde be completed as soon as possible. (Revenue for the Connacht Council / Travel savings for Connacht supporters). Local politicians / Chamber of Commerce should also get on board as it will help business in the town.
This would have no implications for the home and away agreements between Roscommon/Galway/Mayo games in the Connacht championship. If the work/jobs has to be done anyway, what are we waiting for!!!

On a positive note, the Hyde has looked very well for the Tyrone and Armagh games and I do want to complement all those involved in the work completed to date. Like our football team, well done so far but just keep it going!!!

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 494 - 22/02/2023 11:44:13    2459742

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