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Replying To ros1: "Throw in the fact that 3 out of 4 of our management have no experience of Roscommon football, plus the missed virtually the entire club championship. It would have made an awful lot of sense to have one person who managed a club in the county recently and another who recently was involved with a underage county team. I don't believe there is any decent county who only have one person who has experience of football in there counties in there management team. We will be in the same boat again when it comes to replacing Burke as m as manger having no internel candidates with intercounty experience." Agree there probably should have been another local involved but we'll have to let them get on with it now. Big game for us tomorrow. Going off the strength of Galway's team named for tonight I would not fancy getting anything in Salthill next week so management are probably seeing tomorrow as the more realistic of the two to target. Hopefully we can be in the game with 20 to go and get some impact off the bench. It's important we start well because Tyrone are one team you do not want to fall a few points behind to. Best of luck to players and management tomorrow.
Primrose_and_blue (Roscommon) - Posts: 68 - 28/01/2023 14:17:27
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Replying To ros1: "Throw in the fact that 3 out of 4 of our management have no experience of Roscommon football, plus the missed virtually the entire club championship. It would have made an awful lot of sense to have one person who managed a club in the county recently and another who recently was involved with a underage county team. I don't believe there is any decent county who only have one person who has experience of football in there counties in there management team. We will be in the same boat again when it comes to replacing Burke as m as manger having no internel candidates with intercounty experience." He hasn't played a competitive game yet. Give the man a chance at least.
moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1079 - 28/01/2023 14:25:13
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Very negative comments given that the team has not even played a competitive league or championship game yet. Every new management team deserves a chance to prove themselves.
One major positive of having new guys in, is that there is no historical player friendships/loyalties and club biases.
Would be nice to hear more positive news for a change.
Best of luck to the team and to the management team tomorrow. I for one with not be basing my evaluation on just tomorrow's result.
Roscommon are outsiders for Connacht at about 7/1 and also about 100/1 for the All Ireland.
Some people need to be realistic and live in the real world. That's starts by supporting your team through thick and thin and giving the management and team a chance to prove themselves. That is not to say some critical evaluation and suggesting some positive solutions would not be welcomed.
Criticisms before you even play a worthwhile game is not helpful to anyone.
letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 498 - 28/01/2023 15:44:03
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Best of luck to all the management and players for the 2023 campaign. Wont make it down today as I coming down next weekend for the Bank Holiday and the match in Galway. Was in Croke Park last night and one thing that stood out was the amount of new players on both sides.
Caught the 2nd half of Mayo v Galway and there was a championship edge to it. Result was probably the worst one for Ross before throw in today as both has now have something on the board. The Ross team named is what I expected but i daresay Donie Smith might start ahead of his brother or Ciaran Murtagh as both can't be near match fit. It's very nuch a familiar look to the side and by all accounts Roscommon are going to set up very defensively so I am not expecting an exciting spectacle. Hopefully we can get something from it and I'd be happy with being competitive for the majority of it with some kind of a plan A and Plan B to change it up as game develops.
I believe its live on tg4 YouTube so hope to be able to tune in live or deferred coverage will have to do.
SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 273 - 29/01/2023 10:32:29
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Replying To letsgetgoing: "Very negative comments given that the team has not even played a competitive league or championship game yet. Every new management team deserves a chance to prove themselves.
One major positive of having new guys in, is that there is no historical player friendships/loyalties and club biases.
Would be nice to hear more positive news for a change.
Best of luck to the team and to the management team tomorrow. I for one with not be basing my evaluation on just tomorrow's result.
Roscommon are outsiders for Connacht at about 7/1 and also about 100/1 for the All Ireland.
Some people need to be realistic and live in the real world. That's starts by supporting your team through thick and thin and giving the management and team a chance to prove themselves. That is not to say some critical evaluation and suggesting some positive solutions would not be welcomed.
Criticisms before you even play a worthwhile game is not helpful to anyone." Absolutely give the new management a fair wind and best of luck to them and to the team today and for the season ahead. Just watching Mayo v Galway last night and the new players, it seems to me that Roscommon have as much or more new talent coming through as either of them and I see no reason why we can't be very competitive in Connacht over the next few years.I think it was telling how Westport were hammered in the Connacht club championship this year. I don't think Mayo football is as strong as people think and McStay may struggle to replace the retired stalwarts.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2160 - 29/01/2023 11:31:41
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Replying To letsgetgoing: "Very negative comments given that the team has not even played a competitive league or championship game yet. Every new management team deserves a chance to prove themselves.
One major positive of having new guys in, is that there is no historical player friendships/loyalties and club biases.
Would be nice to hear more positive news for a change.
Best of luck to the team and to the management team tomorrow. I for one with not be basing my evaluation on just tomorrow's result.
Roscommon are outsiders for Connacht at about 7/1 and also about 100/1 for the All Ireland.
Some people need to be realistic and live in the real world. That's starts by supporting your team through thick and thin and giving the management and team a chance to prove themselves. That is not to say some critical evaluation and suggesting some positive solutions would not be welcomed.
Criticisms before you even play a worthwhile game is not helpful to anyone." I hope Ros do well as i always do, but blind loyalty doesn't help either. Most people would see there is shortcomings in our management team but hopefully they will overcome this and do well as our players deserve this after all the efforts the have put in over the years.
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 29/01/2023 12:58:10
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Up there with our best ever league wins and what i admired most was the character shown when 3 point down 2nd half and against the wind. Special praise for management were brave starting 3 young lads in Carroll,Cregg and O'Carroll was rewarded. Bench was well used 2nd half also with big impact off it.
Brian Stack, Niall Daly among our best defenders and scored 0-4 between them. Tadgh was our best midfielder today serious workrate. Robbie Dolan,Ruane was good also and Cox,D Murtagh had their moments. impressive 1st league starts for Ben and Daire two talented young players.
On to Pearse Stadium next and if we display the same guts and character again we'll be there or thereabout again. Well done to players and management on that great win this afternoon.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3750 - 29/01/2023 16:24:58
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Well done today. Great start to the campaign and a great score put up too. Big challenges ahead but a nice mix of experience and youth in the Rossie ranks now.
moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1079 - 29/01/2023 16:45:14
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I know it's only league, but that will be a great confidence booster. I've been at a lot of games v Tyrone over the past ten years and I can't remember one win. As they do, Tyrone brought physicality and our lads were well able for it. Well done to the team and management. Big tests to come.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 778 - 29/01/2023 18:13:30
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Really enjoyed that today. Burke showed balls by trusting the young lads and they will surely grow from that and our older lads used the experience to win the game. Good performances all over the field and It was great to see a goalkeeper that didn't give me palpitations every time he had an involvement in the game.
Ros Abu.
Jonnycee (Longford) - Posts: 185 - 29/01/2023 20:49:09
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Replying To Jonnycee: "Really enjoyed that today. Burke showed balls by trusting the young lads and they will surely grow from that and our older lads used the experience to win the game. Good performances all over the field and It was great to see a goalkeeper that didn't give me palpitations every time he had an involvement in the game.
Ros Abu." Very true that on Carroll. Looks very comfortable on the ball and his kickouts were good also. I thought he could have done better for the goal but he'll learn from that. I've been a big fan of Lavin and still am but Carroll has definitely put himself in the driving seat for the no1 position. Really enjoyed the match today. Thought the Hyde looked well and great to see a bit of tidying up done with the walkways nicely flattened. The start of many good things to come for the Hyde hopefully. Thought every one of the team did really well. Sure there were some mistakes made but I think as a team they really played well today including all the subs. O'Carroll obviously to the fore but what an impact Ciaran and Enda had also coming on. Niall Daly was excellent and Stack clever as always with the ball. Just buzzing after that game and the fact that Tyrone were more or less at full strength was so encouraging for us. We should get stronger too as the league continues. Was sitting beside Padraig Joyce and John Divilly at the back of the main stand. I'd love to know what they made of the game. Hopefully we can repeat the performance and result for next week's trip to Galway
Ros Comáin abú
ComainRos (Roscommon) - Posts: 104 - 29/01/2023 21:22:50
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Great performance and great result. Full credit to Management for starting Cregg, Carroll and O'Carroll. All excellent except for the Tyrone goal where Conor Carroll might have done better. Niall Daly was outstanding. All roads lead to Salthill now 8 months after that disappointing Connacht Final. I had a smile on my face buying the €100 ticket last night for the Club Rossie Draw next June. Let's hope all supporters get behind the team now.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2160 - 30/01/2023 18:51:43
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Several young Roscommon (& Galway) players will be involved in the quarter finals of the Sigerson Cup this week. Electrical Ireland have been streaming some games live for the last couple of weeks and are doing the same this week. Check it out at:
https://www.electricireland.ie/higher-education-championships
Tomorrow night (Tuesday 31st January) they are showing University of Galway v University of Limerick at 7.00pm (Some Rossies involved). It is a free service but I am not sure if you have to be an Electric Ireland customer (Perhaps not?)
On Wednesday night (1st February) there should be several Roscommon players involved in the match between UCD and TU Dublin at 7.00pm at TU Dublin Grangegorman. (That is where I will be!) A second match is also taking place in Dublin in The GAA Centre of Excellence in Abbottstown at 7.00pm between UCC and St Mary's University College. Not sure if either of these matches are being streamed live on Wednesday night by Electric Ireland. (Check the above website on Wednesday for any information)
The standard of football is very good with many inter-county footballers on view. Hopefully all The Roscommon players will get through their matches uninjured after there great performance last Sunday.
letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 498 - 30/01/2023 20:50:52
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Huge win yesterday and congratulations to all. I for one have to admit that iI didn't see it coming and I was worried when they outscored us 1-4 to a pt at start of 2nd half. We got a huge break when Tyrone butchered a big goal chance to put them 6 ahead and we never looked back after that.
I would temper some reservations as Tyrone at home was probably the game most winnable given the rumblings up there for past 6 months. The 2 pts are huge given Donegal beating Kerry and the two neighbours drawing Saturday night. With Tyrone to play monaghan the loser of that if there is one could be relegated.
Big kudos to the management for throwing in the younger guys like Cregg, Carroll and O Carroll along with Robbie Dolan. There was a freshness about the attack yesterday that has been missing for a while and the half back line picked their moments to attack unlike the headless constant attacking of last year when we were conceding 20 pts consistently. I'd imagine that is McHughs influence from his days under McGuinness. That said we need to move the ball a bit faster as other teams won't be as accommodating as Tyrone.
The bench contributions were huge. Midfield is still an issue and teams will press the kick out now so we won't get many as short again. Some of the more establushed players like Donie, Conor Cox etc may have to settle for a bench part role but that said its a squad gane now.
I'm not sure if Liam Tully was at match but he certainly can be very proud of his development of those young players under his tutelage for the past 3 years. 5 started from u20 All Ireland team along with with 4 others on bench. To have 9 players involved in senior is a huge return. The one that wasnt involved yesterday but may cone through later on is James Fitzpatrick but injury has curtailed him this 12 months.
Given that only one player Paul Carey was on the u17 team in 2017 while only Paul Carey again and Dylan Ruane were there from the u20 team beaten by Mayo in Connacht u20 final in 2018 which was managed at the time by Shane Curran. Eddie Nolan was also on that team back then and no doubt Cian McKeon also would have been involved yesterday only for injury.
Mayo have been focusing on player development rather than underage titles for years and it's certainly a model worth following. If thevubdwrage titles cone with it that's a bonus.
SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 273 - 30/01/2023 21:02:23
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Replying To endgame: "Absolutely give the new management a fair wind and best of luck to them and to the team today and for the season ahead. Just watching Mayo v Galway last night and the new players, it seems to me that Roscommon have as much or more new talent coming through as either of them and I see no reason why we can't be very competitive in Connacht over the next few years.I think it was telling how Westport were hammered in the Connacht club championship this year. I don't think Mayo football is as strong as people think and McStay may struggle to replace the retired stalwarts." A goalkeeper would never come out to where the ball landed. I believe it was Enda Smiths task to clear the ball and whoever it was that drifted off the post.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3344 - 31/01/2023 20:44:49
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SmokieRoss, Every team has a focus on player development with underage teams. Mayo are playing in a very competitive province where Galway, Roscommon and even Sligo now are well capable of winning titles. And that will be no different for this years U20 knock out Connacht championship.
Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 31/01/2023 20:50:54
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"We got a huge break when Tyrone butchered a big goal chance to put them 6 ahead"
Makes up for the breaks that didn't go our way against Tyrone in both matches in 2019.
Moving on to Galway next Sunday in Salthill which is another testing challenge ahead. The home side will field 10 of their All-Ireland final starting team. Bookies and its punters has us 3/1 to win that highlights the challenge in itself. Our local newspaper thinks a draw at best we'll get on Sunday.
No Shane Walsh of course and probably Finnerty but in Cooke, Conroy, the Kelly brothers, Tierney, Comer they have plenty of scoring options that excelled against us in the past.
Be interesting to see will we start with unchanged team, perhaps Conor Carroll playing tonight and Daire Cregg, Ben O'Carroll tomorrow could force a few changes. Hopefully another competitive team performance and see where it takes us.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3750 - 31/01/2023 21:36:00
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Replying To The_analyser: ""We got a huge break when Tyrone butchered a big goal chance to put them 6 ahead"
Makes up for the breaks that didn't go our way against Tyrone in both matches in 2019.
Moving on to Galway next Sunday in Salthill which is another testing challenge ahead. The home side will field 10 of their All-Ireland final starting team. Bookies and its punters has us 3/1 to win that highlights the challenge in itself. Our local newspaper thinks a draw at best we'll get on Sunday.
No Shane Walsh of course and probably Finnerty but in Cooke, Conroy, the Kelly brothers, Tierney, Comer they have plenty of scoring options that excelled against us in the past.
Be interesting to see will we start with unchanged team, perhaps Conor Carroll playing tonight and Daire Cregg, Ben O'Carroll tomorrow could force a few changes. Hopefully another competitive team performance and see where it takes us." It doesn't mean that we will win but Roscommon should not fear Galway despite their appearance in last years AI. Roscommon have been on the winning side against the same team last year in the league. Our downfall in the Connacht final was the complete absence of a defensive strategy (while Galway implemented a very effective one in every championship game they played) and individual brilliance of Shane Walsh. The long range forecast looks like calm, cold and dry for Sunday and if it stays like that it could be an ideal day for forwards on both teams. As you say, hopefully we are competitive and I'd be delighted if we could get a draw. If Ciaran Lennon starts I'd put him in full forward and drop the odd high ball in close to goal to test the Galway keeper.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 778 - 01/02/2023 10:27:23
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Replying To The_analyser: ""We got a huge break when Tyrone butchered a big goal chance to put them 6 ahead"
Makes up for the breaks that didn't go our way against Tyrone in both matches in 2019.
Moving on to Galway next Sunday in Salthill which is another testing challenge ahead. The home side will field 10 of their All-Ireland final starting team. Bookies and its punters has us 3/1 to win that highlights the challenge in itself. Our local newspaper thinks a draw at best we'll get on Sunday.
No Shane Walsh of course and probably Finnerty but in Cooke, Conroy, the Kelly brothers, Tierney, Comer they have plenty of scoring options that excelled against us in the past.
Be interesting to see will we start with unchanged team, perhaps Conor Carroll playing tonight and Daire Cregg, Ben O'Carroll tomorrow could force a few changes. Hopefully another competitive team performance and see where it takes us." Competitive and see where it gets us is all we ask.
We're definitely stepping up a level next Sunday but these are the teams you want to be playing against.
I'd take a draw all day long!
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1410 - 01/02/2023 10:27:40
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Replying To The_analyser: ""We got a huge break when Tyrone butchered a big goal chance to put them 6 ahead"
Makes up for the breaks that didn't go our way against Tyrone in both matches in 2019.
Moving on to Galway next Sunday in Salthill which is another testing challenge ahead. The home side will field 10 of their All-Ireland final starting team. Bookies and its punters has us 3/1 to win that highlights the challenge in itself. Our local newspaper thinks a draw at best we'll get on Sunday.
No Shane Walsh of course and probably Finnerty but in Cooke, Conroy, the Kelly brothers, Tierney, Comer they have plenty of scoring options that excelled against us in the past.
Be interesting to see will we start with unchanged team, perhaps Conor Carroll playing tonight and Daire Cregg, Ben O'Carroll tomorrow could force a few changes. Hopefully another competitive team performance and see where it takes us." Think Matthew Tierney is overrated. Comer was good last weekend but poor in the All Ireland Final against Kerry when it really counted. Roscommon have a good chance next Sunday. Without Shane Walsh, would Galway have beaten us last May. Doubtful. He's that important to Galway as the All Ireland Final showed. Two points next Sunday would have Roscommon in a good place so here's hoping for the win in Salthill. More of the spirit of June 2019 when thousands of Roscommon people celebrated in Pearse stadium.
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