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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Macca seems to be the only 1 who has a decent opinion..the others just lambast it if doesn't fit their narratuve"
Aye, aye Fool, so you know Fermanagh better than the indigenous people of our county opting to praise macca's opinion which is dreaming of yesteryears as seen by his posting of a past team and keeping harping on about the Cullens and others that no longer are with the team or the prominence of St Mick's players on the team which he thinks is unfair yet they are the cream of the player selections year after year. He wrongly believes that St Mick's McGinty and Corrigan team managers have had too much sway in populating the Fermanagh team. macca offers no solution but just criticism after criticism. He's a bit like Boris as never apologies when he is wrong, Let's hear his pick of a team and players he believes should be in the squad that are out there in the clubs? I doubt if he knows club footballers that well for one rarely sees him posting about club football as his focus seems t be entirely on the county team. Finally, how dare macca particularly rubbish Fermanagh's goalkeeping when he knows fine well that it takes 14 others on the team to collectively take responsibility for what happens in any game. One final question for macca when he is so concerned about our county team's support...does he contribute Club Erin??

abc1234 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 401 - 10/02/2022 21:14:28    2399741

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"who go out to make errors purposely"

Genuinely interested in this comment Macca? What are you basing this information on, have you heard discussion that players are purposely making errors?

I find this hard to believe, no Gaelic footballer club or county will purposely make errors. What is the benefit of that?

Itown1234 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 19 - 11/02/2022 09:27:55    2399754

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Replying To Itown1234:  ""who go out to make errors purposely"

Genuinely interested in this comment Macca? What are you basing this information on, have you heard discussion that players are purposely making errors?

I find this hard to believe, no Gaelic footballer club or county will purposely make errors. What is the benefit of that?"
Further to my last night's posting, I also want to take issue with what macca said

"...Donnelly, he has been left with a tough task, working with a very young panel of inexperienced players with little leadership on pitch, no manager can magically top players appear. The problems long arose be he was appointed and there is not one of current panel, mostly youngsters, who go out to make errors purposely but some are not likely to be up to intercounty football".

What blatant slur on the role of our new captain, how dare he make such a statement!

abc1234 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 401 - 11/02/2022 10:09:06    2399761

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Replying To abc1234:  "Aye, aye Fool, so you know Fermanagh better than the indigenous people of our county opting to praise macca's opinion which is dreaming of yesteryears as seen by his posting of a past team and keeping harping on about the Cullens and others that no longer are with the team or the prominence of St Mick's players on the team which he thinks is unfair yet they are the cream of the player selections year after year. He wrongly believes that St Mick's McGinty and Corrigan team managers have had too much sway in populating the Fermanagh team. macca offers no solution but just criticism after criticism. He's a bit like Boris as never apologies when he is wrong, Let's hear his pick of a team and players he believes should be in the squad that are out there in the clubs? I doubt if he knows club footballers that well for one rarely sees him posting about club football as his focus seems t be entirely on the county team. Finally, how dare macca particularly rubbish Fermanagh's goalkeeping when he knows fine well that it takes 14 others on the team to collectively take responsibility for what happens in any game. One final question for macca when he is so concerned about our county team's support...does he contribute Club Erin??"
I read enough of the posts to know he wants Fermanagh to well , so what if he is critical at times that's all part of it..

He has backed Kieran Donnelly to do well but was accused of being against him..

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2605 - 11/02/2022 10:31:32    2399768

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Replying To Itown1234:  ""who go out to make errors purposely"

Genuinely interested in this comment Macca? What are you basing this information on, have you heard discussion that players are purposely making errors?

I find this hard to believe, no Gaelic footballer club or county will purposely make errors. What is the benefit of that?"
Is this a genuine question, or did you just decide to skip the first half of that sentence for no reason?

Clearly said 'there is not one of current panel,mostly youngsters, who go out to make errors purposely but some are not likely to be up to intercounty football.

No point in trying to make something out of nothing,

I do believe this will be a difficult year for Fermanagh. Donnelly is right to try and bring through some youth into the setup, and he probably has no other choice, but last weekends panel had maybe too many in the early stages of their Senior county football career. I am sure that all of these players are training as hard as they can but getting up to the speed and physicality of intercounty football can take a few years. Few more experienced lads on the panel would help, although as said here before has always been hard to get everyone out and fully committed.

Staying in Div 3 would be a great achievement for this team, but not the end of the world if they drop. Wasn't that long ago Fermanagh were beaten in a Div 4 final and progressed to Div 2 within a couple of years of that. Really need to find a more cutting edge in front of the posts if we are to make an impact

Driller2 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 6 - 11/02/2022 14:20:03    2399814

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On a different note , Fermanagh ladies
I see half of the executive have resigned at last , wonder what happened there. Maybe the county players were right when the raised issue about county board last year . Maybe just maybe if the girls own clubs had to listen to the player concerns instead of burying the head in the sand and ignoring the situation , we would be in the mess we are now

smiler (Fermanagh) - Posts: 88 - 12/02/2022 11:20:59    2399897

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Posters, the "who go out to make errors purposely" comment was a typo, was obviously meaning to say who dont go out to make errors purposely,no play would do that.

abc1234, i fail to see whether i contribute to Club Eirne has any relevance to opinions on our county team, does that only mean that those patrons can support team or give views?(wouldnt leave many in stands at matches) and for your information i was a patron until 2019 not that any of that matters.

This is a forum, everyone free to share their views and hopefully contribute own ideas and opinions in positive constructive way,everyone wont agree with them and as seems some only post to shoot down others and not discuss a topic,all part of the forum experience though:-)

Also my question on lack of leadership wasnt a slur on our captain,its a accurate observation that we have alot of young players starting,look at average age of team v Wicklow and at inter county level can be shown up when games in melting pot, need experience in all sectors of the pitch.

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 980 - 15/02/2022 21:36:59    2400583

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Replying To macca999:  "Posters, the "who go out to make errors purposely" comment was a typo, was obviously meaning to say who dont go out to make errors purposely,no play would do that.

abc1234, i fail to see whether i contribute to Club Eirne has any relevance to opinions on our county team, does that only mean that those patrons can support team or give views?(wouldnt leave many in stands at matches) and for your information i was a patron until 2019 not that any of that matters.

This is a forum, everyone free to share their views and hopefully contribute own ideas and opinions in positive constructive way,everyone wont agree with them and as seems some only post to shoot down others and not discuss a topic,all part of the forum experience though:-)

Also my question on lack of leadership wasnt a slur on our captain,its a accurate observation that we have alot of young players starting,look at average age of team v Wicklow and at inter county level can be shown up when games in melting pot, need experience in all sectors of the pitch."
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Right man thanks and you do have the a bit of courtesy to eventually respond to my questions but not much claw back in your stance I see. However, whether deliberately or otherwise you hinted strongly that the team lacked leadership and you know fine well that the captain is the player that, that skill is generally attached to. Finally, you did not answer my question that being "Let's hear his pick of a team and players he (macca) believes should be in the squad that are out there in the clubs? I doubt if he knows club footballers that well for one rarely sees him posting about club football as his focus seems t be entirely on the county team?"

abc1234 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 401 - 16/02/2022 16:28:17    2400739

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In response to abc1234. Im not going to back down on my opinion or beliefs, if everyone thought and agreed the same the world be a boring place, my thinking is based on what i have seen during games to date.
In terms of leadership, any manager will tell you that want a team of leaders, its not just the responsibility of one man, a captain will obviously drive that but needs others around him. Example recent Dublin team, Cluxton was captain but you had Philly McMahon, James McCarthy, Michael Darragh McAuley, Kevin McManamon, they obviously high end but most teams have that, Monaghan then have Darren Hughes, Ryan Wylie, Conor McManus, Rory Beggan etc.
So its not a criticism of current team captain,just an honest view that we maybe lack number of leaders in heat of battle with such young panel,if you disagree fair enough,what other leaders would you say we have on team?

Thanks for asking but I am more than familiar with club football in the county, there are number of players with clubs who could add to current county set-up, Tomas Corrigan,Ruiairi Corrigan, Tiarnan Daly, Thomas Treacy, Eddie Courtney, Eoin Beacom, Conor McGee, Bryan Owens.
I know that most have been involved before and currently may have no interest in playing county football, so its no way judging the squad selection of current management team, cant pick players who have no interest in committing and this issue has been in county for number of years with Fermanagh, that is point been trying to highlight, why is this? has intercounty become too much commitment? Players seem to retire from intercounty early in Fermanagh, obviously have lost some great potential players to other sports too. Work locally is another issue, do other countys support players with employment more?
Surely with split seasons would be more attractive or is it lack of pride or feeling not much opportunity to win silverware.
All genuine questions, like majority of posters on here,want to see Fermanagh improving and be the best can be, which will be assisted greatly be having all resources and players involved, so just sharing thoughts and open to other opinions on it.

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 980 - 17/02/2022 11:59:57    2400835

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Macca, with the exception of Tomas and maybe Ruairi, none of those players would improve the situation. Hopefully there will be cause for a bit more optimism after this weekend's performance.

RedRum (Fermanagh) - Posts: 278 - 17/02/2022 17:56:22    2400899

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Long time reader, first time poster here. I think after two games, it is an up hill battle for Fermanagh to stay in Division 3. However, Division 3 is such a tit for tat division that any team could take points off eachother depending on the form of the team on the day. Look at Cavan last year, no way that team is of Division 4 standard but a bit of bad from and here we are. I wouldn't be striking Fermanagh as relegation fodder just yet.

It would be a great achievment for this team to stay in Division 3 but if they do drop, it definitely would not be the end of the world. A year or two in Div 4 for these young lads to cut their teeth in the inter county game will help in the long term. We have some very good young players coming through, especially in defence. Was a pity that the likes of McBrien from Belnaleck & Glynn from Derrygonnely went down the soccer route as they had the potential to be brilliant forwards for the county team, but best of luck to them all the same.

I think our problem in Fermanagh is the issue of holding onto players for more than 2/3 seasons. Is the current panel the best group of players the county has to offer? probably not, but that's open for debate. I don't think players have a lack of pride playing for Fermanagh and I think it's actually the opposite, I'm sure each and every one of those lads are proud to wear the jersey. But we also need to be realisitc, I'd say about 50%> of our panel are young lads not living in Fermanagh and are working jobs/attending University in one of Belfast or Dublin. That is a big commitment for players to do consistently over numerous years and you can't blame lads stepping away. You think lads are trying to build careers in their respective profession, it would be very hard to juggle inter-county football with that. I'm not sure how we get around this issue in Fermanagh unless the sport goes professional, which I don't see happening. You see it happening in other counties such as Leitrim.

Anyway, I'm a relatively young poster and have seen Fermanagh play in every single division of the National Football League and my support has never waivered regardless of form or league position, and whilst men are arguing over petty issues in this forum, I know we all want what's best for Fermanagh and we will always be there to support them.

Big game this weekend v Laois, a win totally changes the dynamic of the league campaign so let's get behind them!

Bailah (Fermanagh) - Posts: 17 - 18/02/2022 17:00:45    2401008

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Bailah, welcome to the forum, what a great first post, refreshing to see a passionate, genuine and honest opinion shared. Look forward to your future contributions here.
Totally agree Cavan never a division four team,if full league played in 2021 don't think they would be there.

Yes that's huge problem for fermanagh, the turnover of players every 2/3 years is massive, means it's extremely difficult to build and develop a team at inter county level two beautiful consistency, other counties seem to work around it or get away with it slightly(some maybe allow players train in Dublin/belfast even)

No doubt that commitment for this level is huge now and seems to be more suited for lads in college/teachers or sales reps with flexible hours to dedicate rest of time for county teams.

Same as that, from losing touch London to beating Tyrone in league when they were all Ireland champs at a packed Brewster park, the support remains and hopefully all can get behind county and see us progress back to those heights again

Massive game tonight for sure, difficult task against a strong physical Laois team, though if could get a result the confidence bounce for players would be huge for rest of campaign.
Come on Fermanagh.

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 980 - 19/02/2022 07:58:01    2401054

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NFL Div 3 Rd3 Fermanagh v Laois was postponed today due to poor conditions for playing. Not sure when it will be rescheduled. The next round is away to Longford on tomorrow week Sun 27th Feb at 2pm.

erneboy (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1388 - 19/02/2022 14:50:53    2401081

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I would say this thread has descended into vitriol and personal attacks but it's been there for a while. We are all armchair enthusiasts entitled to opinions .. we make observations and share .. you can't observe a team doing so badly for so long without singling some people out.. so relax and give counter arguments rather than just say .. how dare u .. and do u pay to club Eirne as if u can't comment unless u have financial clout .. grow up posters we can't go round handing out hugs . I'll give some honest blunt opinions soon if this post avoids the usual pack of hyenas tearing strips out of it lol

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 304 - 22/02/2022 09:18:25    2401763

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Sun 27 Feb
NFL Div 3 Rd 4
Longford 1-10 Fermanagh 3-11
Sean Quigley 2-3, Ryan Lyons 0-1, Ryan Jones 0-3, Conall Jones 0-1. Darragh McGurn 0-1, Garvin Jones 1-1
What a second half performance from our gallant team! Well done!!
macca999 will now have to retract is demise prediction!!!

erneboy (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1388 - 27/02/2022 15:45:00    2402713

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Replying To erneboy:  "Sun 27 Feb
NFL Div 3 Rd 4
Longford 1-10 Fermanagh 3-11
Sean Quigley 2-3, Ryan Lyons 0-1, Ryan Jones 0-3, Conall Jones 0-1. Darragh McGurn 0-1, Garvin Jones 1-1
What a second half performance from our gallant team! Well done!!
macca999 will now have to retract is demise prediction!!!"
That macca guy is probably hiding being too embarrassed to put his head above the parapet as our great Fermanagh team and new manager have proved their abilities and are definitely a force to be reckoned with. I'm very impressed how they turned the game around. I thought Danny Leonard in particular was impressive.

BigToeJoe (Fermanagh) - Posts: 165 - 28/02/2022 13:50:42    2402969

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Replying To BigToeJoe:  "
Replying To erneboy:  "Sun 27 Feb
NFL Div 3 Rd 4
Longford 1-10 Fermanagh 3-11
Sean Quigley 2-3, Ryan Lyons 0-1, Ryan Jones 0-3, Conall Jones 0-1. Darragh McGurn 0-1, Garvin Jones 1-1
What a second half performance from our gallant team! Well done!!
macca999 will now have to retract is demise prediction!!!"
That macca guy is probably hiding being too embarrassed to put his head above the parapet as our great Fermanagh team and new manager have proved their abilities and are definitely a force to be reckoned with. I'm very impressed how they turned the game around. I thought Danny Leonard in particular was impressive."
Not hiding anywhere, that thing called work takes priority im afraid.

Like any genuine fan im delighted with yesterdays result, great win and boost for the young players in panel especially.
Like all games at the minute weather had big impact with the breeze in each half, Fermanagh used it well second half and the red card for Quinn was huge turning point in the game.

Good performances by Ryan Lyons, Brandon Horan Ryan Jones, Sean Quigley, Danny Leonard also made great contribution when came on. Newman to his credit made some good saves too at key points.

Should give team a boost going into the Laois game,which will be another tough battle, the nature of Division 3 is ultras competitive,shown by Louths win against Westmeath.

Longford still have to face Wicklow im Longford, so be needing at least another win to hopefully secure place in division 3, sooner can get that the better.

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 980 - 28/02/2022 16:14:33    2403033

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Excellent win for Fermanagh at the weekend, Longford has been a nortoriously difficult spot for counties to get a result in in recent years. What was pleasing was the nature in Fermanagh's win. A storming second half was excellent to see and the way in which the lads responded after conceding the goal was commendable as well. I've seen Fermanagh teams in the past crumble after conceding such late goals. Still a huge reliance on Quigley, which is fine for now as he isn't the oldest either, but we hope that the likes of McGurn or others can start growing alongside him in the coming seasons and have better firepower overall in that forward line.

Good to see Horan getting game time too, was a great player in that Hogan Cup team and hopefully will be an able replacement for the outgoing Eoin Donnelly.

Bailah (Fermanagh) - Posts: 17 - 02/03/2022 11:59:28    2403425

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Big incentive for promotion push has got to be a likely meeting with the Dubs next year in the league. I remember the last meeting in Brewster park Mossie Quinn missing a late free to equalise it. Mind you I was also at the next meeting the year after in parnell park, ahem moving swiftly on...I know its premature but this league is thankfully now wide open after the weekend and a win on sat afternoon would make us all think about promotion for sure. the win on sunday will defo put wind in theri sails now

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 304 - 02/03/2022 14:22:55    2403468

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Small crowd at the match. Are we starting to see a more attacking team, 5 goals in 2games. When was the last time Fermanagh scored 3goals in a game, granted was against a poor longford team which had a man down for a entire half.

ERNEDEVIL (Fermanagh) - Posts: 62 - 02/03/2022 19:42:42    2403544

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