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Replying To FatLadySinging:  "A lot of the comments and criticisms here of the minor team are way off the mark. There is a lot of focus on poor coaching and management. As I saw the game, the Galway players were every bit a nos good and equally skillful and committed as the Mayo lads. The reason Galway were beaten is quite simple: they gave the ball away numerous times to the opposition when under no pressure whatever. How many times were handpasses and footpasses and short free kicks misdirected and sent directly into the grateful arms of Mayo players. This was soul-destroying and must have proved very dispiriting. The game is all about possession now. Teams who needlessly give the ball away time after time are effectively beating themselves. It must have been hard for the manager and coaches to watch. Players at this stage of their careers should be able to pass the ball. If this can be corrected, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Galway go on to win the All Ireland via the back door."
That's down to coaching and management though.
You coach fellas to hand pass chest high not around a guys ankles, most of the drills are set up this way at pace and under pressure.
You also instruct players from the line not to kick it into where the sweeper/cover is. Now maybe they did do all of this but it didn't show Monday.
It highlights to me that maybe there's isn't an overall plan or blueprint from academy to u17, u20 and then senior. Even the keepers(he was excellent), was inclined to kick to his strong side where we were looking to break it. It didn't work at the time we needed possession

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 81 - 08/06/2022 11:51:06    2423302

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Replying To FatLadySinging:  "A lot of the comments and criticisms here of the minor team are way off the mark. There is a lot of focus on poor coaching and management. As I saw the game, the Galway players were every bit a nos good and equally skillful and committed as the Mayo lads. The reason Galway were beaten is quite simple: they gave the ball away numerous times to the opposition when under no pressure whatever. How many times were handpasses and footpasses and short free kicks misdirected and sent directly into the grateful arms of Mayo players. This was soul-destroying and must have proved very dispiriting. The game is all about possession now. Teams who needlessly give the ball away time after time are effectively beating themselves. It must have been hard for the manager and coaches to watch. Players at this stage of their careers should be able to pass the ball. If this can be corrected, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Galway go on to win the All Ireland via the back door."
Galway seemed to want to 'process' the ball continually, until 'very very basic' scoring finishes became available. Mayo were solidly structured on defense, and didn't cough up 'very very basic' scoring finishes too often in the game. These two factors, imo, led to the inevitability that Galway would cough up their possession continually going forward, in their seemingly fruitless endeavor to chisel 'very very basic' scoring finishes.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 2648 - 08/06/2022 12:24:13    2423313

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Replying To smallfrank:  "That's down to coaching and management though.
You coach fellas to hand pass chest high not around a guys ankles, most of the drills are set up this way at pace and under pressure.
You also instruct players from the line not to kick it into where the sweeper/cover is. Now maybe they did do all of this but it didn't show Monday.
It highlights to me that maybe there's isn't an overall plan or blueprint from academy to u17, u20 and then senior. Even the keepers(he was excellent), was inclined to kick to his strong side where we were looking to break it. It didn't work at the time we needed possession"
There has to be a good case made for the appointment of a manager, minor or senior. We saw an outcry in some quarters, when PJ was given the current job. And in fairness he did not, on the face of it have much experience, a stint with u20s, selector on international rules, and managing in all but name his club to 4 county titles. Add to that his legend player status as a triple star, double all Ireland winner etc. While previous exp managing an intercounty team was lacking, there were also good reasons to give him a shot. What case can be made for the current minor management team?

giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1124 - 08/06/2022 12:42:46    2423317

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Some contrast with the set system the senior team had in place for the Connacht final compared to the minors on Monday evening. It once again shows that while you may have players as good if not better than the opposition key is doing your homework and be set up right to get the best out of the players.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2852 - 08/06/2022 14:32:49    2423361

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Galway seemed to want to 'process' the ball continually, until 'very very basic' scoring finishes became available. Mayo were solidly structured on defense, and didn't cough up 'very very basic' scoring finishes too often in the game. These two factors, imo, led to the inevitability that Galway would cough up their possession continually going forward, in their seemingly fruitless endeavor to chisel 'very very basic' scoring finishes."
You not think they were going for goals in that 2nd half? Several opportunities when inside the D for an easy score but were forcing passes that weren't on. Decision making between the 2 sides was huge.

Hurley destroyed Galway but it was clear his man wasn't up to it very early on, was only switched on to Clarke after Hurley had scored 3 points. Galway had a man 'sweeping' the defence but all too often he got attracted to a runner who'd broken through. Mayo were able to break the tackle a lot easier, perhaps they were better players although my opinion is they looked stronger.

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 161 - 08/06/2022 15:22:48    2423387

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Replying To TheBishop:  "You not think they were going for goals in that 2nd half? Several opportunities when inside the D for an easy score but were forcing passes that weren't on. Decision making between the 2 sides was huge.

Hurley destroyed Galway but it was clear his man wasn't up to it very early on, was only switched on to Clarke after Hurley had scored 3 points. Galway had a man 'sweeping' the defence but all too often he got attracted to a runner who'd broken through. Mayo were able to break the tackle a lot easier, perhaps they were better players although my opinion is they looked stronger."
I didn't see much of the 2nd half. Got dragged away!

The problem I saw in the first half though, was a total lack of flair & spontaneity in the attack, in favour of a dreary overcoached formulaic approach, where you kept passing until an easy chance presented. The easy chance rarely presented in the first half though against 'Mayo's blanket', and almost invariably the ball was turned over, while searching for this 'perfect spot' to score from.

Maybe they improved 2nd half, and started getting goal chances, I missed that bit. I wouldn't have backed Galway at HT to score second half goals I must admit, based on their first half performance.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 2648 - 08/06/2022 16:03:48    2423408

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So The Irish Times went front page with their Who could win the All Ireland type piece and Jim McGuinness, in his detailed write up, gives all of ONE sentence to Galway! This is amongst paragraphs about Mayo, Kerry, Dublin, Derry, Armagh etc. We're a side show to these pundits, they've no respect for us. I hope we absolutely ram it down their throats in the QF and hopefully beyond.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 11/06/2022 13:34:32    2423910

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Replying To togoutlads:  "So The Irish Times went front page with their Who could win the All Ireland type piece and Jim McGuinness, in his detailed write up, gives all of ONE sentence to Galway! This is amongst paragraphs about Mayo, Kerry, Dublin, Derry, Armagh etc. We're a side show to these pundits, they've no respect for us. I hope we absolutely ram it down their throats in the QF and hopefully beyond."
I agree with you for the most part but in fairness Mayo, Kerry, and Dublin have been the big horses recently whereas Galway haven't been. Hey I hope Galway rams it down their throats too!!! Galway Abu.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 1515 - 11/06/2022 14:50:17    2423921

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Replying To Trump2020:  "I agree with you for the most part but in fairness Mayo, Kerry, and Dublin have been the big horses recently whereas Galway haven't been. Hey I hope Galway rams it down their throats too!!! Galway Abu."
The reality is Galway haven't beaten anyone of note in Croke Park for 21 years.
That won't change until the semi final Unless they draw Armagh/Donegal in the q finals.
If the draw goes well for them they could end up with Cork/Limerick in the q finals followed by Derry in the Semi final. Handy route to a final.
Then just need one big performance after that

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 981 - 11/06/2022 15:34:34    2423926

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "The reality is Galway haven't beaten anyone of note in Croke Park for 21 years.
That won't change until the semi final Unless they draw Armagh/Donegal in the q finals.
If the draw goes well for them they could end up with Cork/Limerick in the q finals followed by Derry in the Semi final. Handy route to a final.
Then just need one big performance after that"
Except for Kerry in 2018 I suppose

Maroonedinlongford2 (Galway) - Posts: 37 - 11/06/2022 17:54:38    2423979

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If Galway draw Clare or winners of Cork-Limerick ye are guaranteed a semi final. I actually think Clare would cause Derry more problems than they would Galway.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 150 - 11/06/2022 19:07:31    2424008

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "If Galway draw Clare or winners of Cork-Limerick ye are guaranteed a semi final. I actually think Clare would cause Derry more problems than they would Galway."
Nothing is guaranteed. And that's guaranteed!
Will be hugely interesting to see how the draw pans out. Complacency would quickly be the undoing of us, Galway need to prepare for another step up in gears and a huge battle. Any team will fancy their chances at this stage.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 11/06/2022 20:42:50    2424050

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "If Galway draw Clare or winners of Cork-Limerick ye are guaranteed a semi final. I actually think Clare would cause Derry more problems than they would Galway."
Galway could draw Mayo...that would be interesting!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 1610 - 11/06/2022 20:50:23    2424053

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depending on results tomo of course but if mayo avoid kerry and dublin in the draw you'd have
to fancy them to get to the all ire final now..
they will gather serious momentum from tonight's victory and the still have a few players to
come back from injury which will make there panel stronger..
i thought there bench made a big impact this eve and they will be a very hard
team to beat from now now plus the amount of experience they have grinding out results..

if cork and armagh win tomo then i would be expecting a galway v mayo Q-final...

if both Donegal and limerick win then it would be highly unlikely.

gbay (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 11/06/2022 21:51:33    2424095

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "The reality is Galway haven't beaten anyone of note in Croke Park for 21 years.
That won't change until the semi final Unless they draw Armagh/Donegal in the q finals.
If the draw goes well for them they could end up with Cork/Limerick in the q finals followed by Derry in the Semi final. Handy route to a final.
Then just need one big performance after that"
'Then just need one big performance after that'. Tell me about it!!!

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 2648 - 12/06/2022 12:52:03    2424178

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welldone to the galway minors after a great win against dublin..
after such a short turn around they produced the goods when there need was greatest..
superb defence displays and they have alot of very good players who always look to kick the ball..

i hope they get to play in croke park as it will be a great experience for them and really suit
there style of play..

welldone to all involved..

gbay (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 12/06/2022 14:06:47    2424199

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Replying To gbay:  "welldone to the galway minors after a great win against dublin..
after such a short turn around they produced the goods when there need was greatest..
superb defence displays and they have alot of very good players who always look to kick the ball..

i hope they get to play in croke park as it will be a great experience for them and really suit
there style of play..

welldone to all involved.."
Well done Galway Minors great to beayt the Dubs
My god watching them would drive you bananas
Theres so ,much talent and ability in that team
But they continue to make a lot of mistakes
Which things harder for them than it should
But that was an improvement all the same
Cut out the silly errors and more improvement
Galway can get to the final maybe V Mayo

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1433 - 12/06/2022 14:32:06    2424204

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Replying To gbay:  "welldone to the galway minors after a great win against dublin..
after such a short turn around they produced the goods when there need was greatest..
superb defence displays and they have alot of very good players who always look to kick the ball..

i hope they get to play in croke park as it will be a great experience for them and really suit
there style of play..

welldone to all involved.."
brilliant result
Gaillimh Abu

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1559 - 12/06/2022 14:48:04    2424208

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Replying To gbay:  "depending on results tomo of course but if mayo avoid kerry and dublin in the draw you'd have
to fancy them to get to the all ire final now..
they will gather serious momentum from tonight's victory and the still have a few players to
come back from injury which will make there panel stronger..
i thought there bench made a big impact this eve and they will be a very hard
team to beat from now now plus the amount of experience they have grinding out results..

if cork and armagh win tomo then i would be expecting a galway v mayo Q-final...

if both Donegal and limerick win then it would be highly unlikely."
Galway cant draw mayo

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 397 - 12/06/2022 14:50:44    2424209

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Replying To FatLadySinging:  "A lot of the comments and criticisms here of the minor team are way off the mark. There is a lot of focus on poor coaching and management. As I saw the game, the Galway players were every bit a nos good and equally skillful and committed as the Mayo lads. The reason Galway were beaten is quite simple: they gave the ball away numerous times to the opposition when under no pressure whatever. How many times were handpasses and footpasses and short free kicks misdirected and sent directly into the grateful arms of Mayo players. This was soul-destroying and must have proved very dispiriting. The game is all about possession now. Teams who needlessly give the ball away time after time are effectively beating themselves. It must have been hard for the manager and coaches to watch. Players at this stage of their careers should be able to pass the ball. If this can be corrected, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Galway go on to win the All Ireland via the back door."
After all the doom and gloom and negative comments about the team following the defeat by Mayo, I said it wouldn't surprise me at all if Galway went on to win the minor title via the back door. Their display against Leinster champions Dublin showed their potential. All they had to do was not give the ball away cheaply in possession as they frequently did against Mayo. Were it not for the misuse of possession in that match the result would have been different. Congratulations to the team, the manager and the mentors. Well done.

FatLadySinging (Galway) - Posts: 33 - 12/06/2022 15:03:39    2424212

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