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Replying To yew_tree: "The new surface on MacHale park is not the same size as Croke Park. In fact dimensions wise it's one of the smallest county grounds. As for the injury list, Flynn is gone for the year, Conroy obviously and Harrison is likely finished for good as his age (hope I'm wrong).
Hennelly is unlikely to be fit for Galway, as is Diarmuid OnConnor and Fionn McDonagh. Mullin, MacLoughlian, Durkan will hopefully feature.
It's a long list (I didn't even mention McBrien, Bryan Walsh and Mark Moran (wouldn't feature anyway in my opinion).
Anyway every team has injures so I'm more of the opinion get on with it. Whoever takes the field for us will give it their all and we will see where that gets us. Won't be much in it either way." Where has it been confirmed that Flynn is gone for the year? This Time last year ye were saying Aidan O'shea was gone for the year, ye love a bit of drama in Mayo.
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Is there any official statement from Connacht Council as to why the game was not played in the Dome last night? It seems to everyone that this was a no brainer in terms of football quality , entertainment value, player safety, supporter comfort etc.. But there must be a logical reason that I am missing?
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 1002 - 07/04/2022 14:40:27
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Replying To yew_tree: "The new surface on MacHale park is not the same size as Croke Park. In fact dimensions wise it's one of the smallest county grounds. As for the injury list, Flynn is gone for the year, Conroy obviously and Harrison is likely finished for good as his age (hope I'm wrong).
Hennelly is unlikely to be fit for Galway, as is Diarmuid OnConnor and Fionn McDonagh. Mullin, MacLoughlian, Durkan will hopefully feature.
It's a long list (I didn't even mention McBrien, Bryan Walsh and Mark Moran (wouldn't feature anyway in my opinion).
Anyway every team has injures so I'm more of the opinion get on with it. Whoever takes the field for us will give it their all and we will see where that gets us. Won't be much in it either way." The new pitch in McHale has been extended by more than 5m in length from the original size, not sure how much they've added on width. One of the stated original aims was to match Croke Park dimensions but not sure if this has been achieved.
Cillian already is and Diarmuid O'Connor will be back, so I believe. Hennelly likely to make it too. He's essential to your game plan along with a flying Mullin and Durkan. We'll be targeted from there. ROD will take some watching, if it's doable at all!
Flynn is a loss and wishing him a speedy recovery, he was going well.
togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1091 - 07/04/2022 14:49:34
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Replying To Mayonman: "Point out where I'm burying my head in the sand?? Like a good lad attack the post not the poster.
My post just pointed out that there is very little positivity on this forum so I am wondering who all these overly positive posters are that seem to bother you so much.
Feel free to ignore my point like u did with ur last reply" Apologies Mayoman - there was indeed an element of playing the man and not the ball in my response.
I did respond to your post about the comparison between the negativity here and on the Mayo forum and pointed you to the mayogaablog where the real Mayo football debate takes place, and where tensions have been running very high since the Kerry defeat (Horan has to go etc).
I also gave you a nuanced summary (based on one game) of how far we are of being competitive at All Ireland level.
Anyway back to your final question. Since the Roscommon game...
"We achieved our aim of promotion and I'm sure training has tapered off since. Plenty of time to build back up again for Mayo in 3 weeks."
"Mayo is the be all and end all for this group and I expect a massive performance."
"Super comeback all is not lost. We are still in the mix".
"Maybe we didn't want to show our hand in that respect which is fair enough."
"Happy enough overall. Good run out, didn't look like any injuries and players certainly won't be getting ahead of themselves."
"24th April will be a war. Roll on"
"Nothing to suggest from this performance that we are way off Mayo. We have a serious chance of beating mayo."
"We only lost by a point to a very.good team despite not playing very well."
Mcb86 (Mayo) - Posts: 13 - 07/04/2022 15:22:21
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Replying To anotheralias: "Is there any official statement from Connacht Council as to why the game was not played in the Dome last night? It seems to everyone that this was a no brainer in terms of football quality , entertainment value, player safety, supporter comfort etc.. But there must be a logical reason that I am missing?" Mike Finnerty outlined it on the MayoNews podcast - the rule is either all games in the competition are played indoor or none, hence none.
Given that that rule was known, and a yellow wind warning was in place in Mayo since 12 noon yesterday, very poor form that the game wasn't postponed, totally unfair on both sets of players. Bekan on a calm day is a disaster..a Connacht cship game at any level should never be played there.
Mcb86 (Mayo) - Posts: 13 - 07/04/2022 15:29:57
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Replying To anotheralias: "Is there any official statement from Connacht Council as to why the game was not played in the Dome last night? It seems to everyone that this was a no brainer in terms of football quality , entertainment value, player safety, supporter comfort etc.. But there must be a logical reason that I am missing?" I'd assume it was because a decent number of supporters had already bought their tickets. The dome wouldn't have the capacity to fit them all.
There was a reasonable crowd at the game.
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Replying To Mcb86: "Mike Finnerty outlined it on the MayoNews podcast - the rule is either all games in the competition are played indoor or none, hence none.
Given that that rule was known, and a yellow wind warning was in place in Mayo since 12 noon yesterday, very poor form that the game wasn't postponed, totally unfair on both sets of players. Bekan on a calm day is a disaster..a Connacht cship game at any level should never be played there." Sounds like a daft excuse given by Mr Prenty to the journalists.
Our club league competitions started a few weeks ago and a handful of games has been played in the Airdome. Including on days during the recent good weather we had.
Prenty and Co are now planning on staging the U20 final in the same venue as last night when the winner of our semi final would be due a home final.
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Replying To The_analyser: "Sounds like a daft excuse given by Mr Prenty to the journalists.
Our club league competitions started a few weeks ago and a handful of games has been played in the Airdome. Including on days during the recent good weather we had.
Prenty and Co are now planning on staging the U20 final in the same venue as last night when the winner of our semi final would be due a home final." Well I 100% agree there - there's no way any intercounty championship games at u20 level should be played there, either in the Dome (in my view) or on the outside pitches.
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Why did Mayo not play the game in one of their better club grounds? Ballina maybe?
Bekan is a training centre-its not a pitch any young county player aspires to playing a serious game in.
Wide open to the elements.
And you can't play championship football in an under-sized pitch in the dome
lowballplease (Galway) - Posts: 935 - 08/04/2022 11:44:39
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Replying To lowballplease: "Why did Mayo not play the game in one of their better club grounds? Ballina maybe?
Bekan is a training centre-its not a pitch any young county player aspires to playing a serious game in.
Wide open to the elements.
And you can't play championship football in an under-sized pitch in the dome" Can anyone point me to the rule in the GAA that states that the game could not have been played in the dome. Everyone seems to be quoting a rule . But I cant find it documented anywhere.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 1002 - 08/04/2022 12:38:14
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You need to lookup the gas rules according to Prenty it's his baby and he won't let anyone play unless he okays it
fishpond (Galway) - Posts: 89 - 08/04/2022 17:25:36
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Replying To lowballplease: "Why did Mayo not play the game in one of their better club grounds? Ballina maybe?
Bekan is a training centre-its not a pitch any young county player aspires to playing a serious game in.
Wide open to the elements.
And you can't play championship football in an under-sized pitch in the dome" There wouldn't be many club grounds with floodlights for an evening game. Ballina or Charlestown would take the crowd but don't have them.
Don't think there's anything wrong with Bekan however. Just there was a huge storm on Wednesday evening. It would have been similar conditions in MacHale park, the Hyde, Pearse stadium etc.
MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 486 - 08/04/2022 17:38:23
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As we are in the final weeks of this current management team's tenure I think it's time to take stock and see where we are and where we're going with our county football team set up.
It's fair to say we haven't been competitive these last 18 years, and apart from beating Kerry in a non knockout game in the super 8s haven't had a big C'ship Croke Park win in over 2O years.
I believe we've 7 different management teams since O'Mahoney with varying degrees of success/failures with Connacht titles been the finest moments without ever really threatening a serious bid for Sam Maguire.
18 plus years of failure/underachievement has further been highlighted by a period that Mayo seem to be able to contest for AI honors practically every year, even if Mayo haven't closed the deal on winning it out they have had some run winning big games at headquarters regularly while we sit on our hands and talk about the old days.
Clearly it is the responsibility of the county board to create an environment where our county team can succeed and unfortunately we have been sadly wanting in that department for years. The appointment of PJ been another example where we hire a man with zero experience at team management at any level and expect success. KW despite his shortcomings at least served his time coaching and managing teams up through the ranks before he got the Galway job, the same same can't be said about PJ.
We also have to reevaluate what the term 'the Galway way' means, we like to see our selves as skillful attacking footballers but in reality we are seen as a soft touch when it really matters.
To have realistic aspersions of going deep into the c'ship consistently we need to focus on developing strong, fast athletic footballers which is not or has not been our priority for quite some time.
When this current campaign ends which I have no doubt will be in disappointment and regrets in a few weeks there will be an instant move to blame PJ and remove him when the problems are more deep rooted and widespread. There is a clear disconnect between the county board and the senior football team setup and it's well time to seriously discuss what direction we need to go be consistently competitive at inter county level.
North v West Board or Pearce Stadium v Tuam pettiness should be left out of any discourse as we are all in this together.
Thoughts??
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We are 2 weeks out from a season defining game against our greatest rivals, now is not the time to be talking about the next management team. We have what we have now, get your arse down to Castlebar and support them.
johnjoe21 (Galway) - Posts: 134 - 09/04/2022 09:16:09
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Replying To Galway4ever: "As we are in the final weeks of this current management team's tenure I think it's time to take stock and see where we are and where we're going with our county football team set up.
It's fair to say we haven't been competitive these last 18 years, and apart from beating Kerry in a non knockout game in the super 8s haven't had a big C'ship Croke Park win in over 2O years.
I believe we've 7 different management teams since O'Mahoney with varying degrees of success/failures with Connacht titles been the finest moments without ever really threatening a serious bid for Sam Maguire.
18 plus years of failure/underachievement has further been highlighted by a period that Mayo seem to be able to contest for AI honors practically every year, even if Mayo haven't closed the deal on winning it out they have had some run winning big games at headquarters regularly while we sit on our hands and talk about the old days.
Clearly it is the responsibility of the county board to create an environment where our county team can succeed and unfortunately we have been sadly wanting in that department for years. The appointment of PJ been another example where we hire a man with zero experience at team management at any level and expect success. KW despite his shortcomings at least served his time coaching and managing teams up through the ranks before he got the Galway job, the same same can't be said about PJ.
We also have to reevaluate what the term 'the Galway way' means, we like to see our selves as skillful attacking footballers but in reality we are seen as a soft touch when it really matters.
To have realistic aspersions of going deep into the c'ship consistently we need to focus on developing strong, fast athletic footballers which is not or has not been our priority for quite some time.
When this current campaign ends which I have no doubt will be in disappointment and regrets in a few weeks there will be an instant move to blame PJ and remove him when the problems are more deep rooted and widespread. There is a clear disconnect between the county board and the senior football team setup and it's well time to seriously discuss what direction we need to go be consistently competitive at inter county level.
North v West Board or Pearce Stadium v Tuam pettiness should be left out of any discourse as we are all in this together.
Thoughts??" My thoughts are that these are valid discussion points ...but not until the championship is over for us For now we should get behind the team and management. We have the players to give a good account of ourselves in 2022.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 1002 - 09/04/2022 10:08:50
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Replying To Galway4ever: "As we are in the final weeks of this current management team's tenure I think it's time to take stock and see where we are and where we're going with our county football team set up.
It's fair to say we haven't been competitive these last 18 years, and apart from beating Kerry in a non knockout game in the super 8s haven't had a big C'ship Croke Park win in over 2O years.
I believe we've 7 different management teams since O'Mahoney with varying degrees of success/failures with Connacht titles been the finest moments without ever really threatening a serious bid for Sam Maguire.
18 plus years of failure/underachievement has further been highlighted by a period that Mayo seem to be able to contest for AI honors practically every year, even if Mayo haven't closed the deal on winning it out they have had some run winning big games at headquarters regularly while we sit on our hands and talk about the old days.
Clearly it is the responsibility of the county board to create an environment where our county team can succeed and unfortunately we have been sadly wanting in that department for years. The appointment of PJ been another example where we hire a man with zero experience at team management at any level and expect success. KW despite his shortcomings at least served his time coaching and managing teams up through the ranks before he got the Galway job, the same same can't be said about PJ.
We also have to reevaluate what the term 'the Galway way' means, we like to see our selves as skillful attacking footballers but in reality we are seen as a soft touch when it really matters.
To have realistic aspersions of going deep into the c'ship consistently we need to focus on developing strong, fast athletic footballers which is not or has not been our priority for quite some time.
When this current campaign ends which I have no doubt will be in disappointment and regrets in a few weeks there will be an instant move to blame PJ and remove him when the problems are more deep rooted and widespread. There is a clear disconnect between the county board and the senior football team setup and it's well time to seriously discuss what direction we need to go be consistently competitive at inter county level.
North v West Board or Pearce Stadium v Tuam pettiness should be left out of any discourse as we are all in this together.
Thoughts??" "The Galway way" hasn't existed for years.
Paul Conroy at 32 in his 14th year playing Senior Inter County is still Galway's best player because he has the basic skill level execution since he was a young lad, you can put Shane Walsh now in his 10th year in that category as well. They are the exception because they came from a time where the emphasis on skills was to the forefront.
Galway Football Board, Coaching Officers & all M'ment teams approx 8 or 9 years ago decided to concentrate on producing athletes with high fitness levels (skill was secondary) which worked fine at underage but got badly exposed at Senior County level. As a result we have lads playing for Galway who are one sided, unable to use their weaker hand or foot. Basic skill execution is poor, I have watched lads solo the ball into the opposing players hands, unable to kick a ball over the bar from 20 mtrs, place kickers unable to rise the ball, get dispossessed when on their weak side. So that process of producing athletes over skillful players hasn't worked & wont work. Every county aped the Donegal / Jimmy Mc Guiness model / basketball model for years but attacking football is returning & the successful teams now are those with the skilful forwards, the Kerry's, Tyrone's & Armagh's. You reap what you sow.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 09/04/2022 10:29:28
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Very good discussion points. The Roscommon game the last day confirmed to me that Galway are still not within an ass's roar of an AI anytime soon and even a Connacht title is probably out of reach with the current players / set-up.
tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 09/04/2022 10:51:34
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I think the development system in Galway is very poor it's just a box ticking exercise they all trying win with very little emphasis on actually developing the basic skills solo both Feet kick both feet hand passing both hands looking up when in possession as for trial for minor pure joke of a system bring in 170 kids to Loughgeorge give them 3 trials if u even call them that and then drop 100 u could not make it up it's a farce of a system but unfortunately the powers that be don't want change they just ticking boxes with no real interest in developing players at all , Galway way off top 8 maybe they top 12 just about and unless they change system in developing squad they will remain the same ,,
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Replying To anotheralias: "My thoughts are that these are valid discussion points ...but not until the championship is over for us For now we should get behind the team and management. We have the players to give a good account of ourselves in 2022." It's not all doom and gloom. We won a lot of league matches and earned promotion. I'd be hoping for Gallagher and Culhane to come through. I'd love to see the sawdoctors play before the match in Castlebar. A rousing rendition of "Joyce Country Ceili Band" before throw-in would gee-up the players and supporters no end...."Tommy K, Tommy K,...."
AnCrúiscínLán (Galway) - Posts: 105 - 09/04/2022 11:56:11
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Replying To MayoDan: "There wouldn't be many club grounds with floodlights for an evening game. Ballina or Charlestown would take the crowd but don't have them.
Don't think there's anything wrong with Bekan however. Just there was a huge storm on Wednesday evening. It would have been similar conditions in MacHale park, the Hyde, Pearse stadium etc." No floodlights in venues for both semi finals on Wednesday. A ground with just a 500 seater stand is one thing thats wrong with Connacht COE.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3734 - 09/04/2022 12:37:17
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