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Replying To Belclare7: "It was a county board decision chaired by a hurling man to combine Supermacs sponsorship..
Footballers never ever had an issue getting a sponsor..
And you haven't a clue about Tuam Stadium, our football ground, mainly backed by a generous donation but also by the football community , what have the hurling community done in this regard?
Nothing but bleed us all dry" You better go back and research that. They couldn't get a sponsor for a couple of seasons after Aer Arann. So what you're saying simply isn't true.
For one, the hurling community have two stadiums and kindly allow football into Ballinasloe on plenty of occasions. The only stadium currently with lights. I think it's you who hasn't a clue. There's life past the N17.
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Replying To TanCanRan: "You better go back and research that. They couldn't get a sponsor for a couple of seasons after Aer Arann. So what you're saying simply isn't true.
For one, the hurling community have two stadiums and kindly allow football into Ballinasloe on plenty of occasions. The only stadium currently with lights. I think it's you who hasn't a clue. There's life past the N17." However, the Leinster Project has not worked for Galway, it is costing us enormous sums of money and we are not getting anywhere with resolving this situation. Croke Park needs to step in and resolve this to ensure we have delegate representation on Leinster GAA.
Just quoted tonight from our treasurer of county board..
Belclare7 (Galway) - Posts: 143 - 09/12/2024 20:41:08
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Replying To Belclare7: "However, the Leinster Project has not worked for Galway, it is costing us enormous sums of money and we are not getting anywhere with resolving this situation. Croke Park needs to step in and resolve this to ensure we have delegate representation on Leinster GAA.
Just quoted tonight from our treasurer of county board.." What exactly is your point? That the hurlers shouldn't bother playing at all? It's hardly Galway hurling's fault that no in Connacht can compete at Galway's level,
TanCanRan (Galway) - Posts: 236 - 09/12/2024 21:18:37
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Replying To TanCanRan: "What exactly is your point? That the hurlers shouldn't bother playing at all? It's hardly Galway hurling's fault that no in Connacht can compete at Galway's level," Never said that...
"Enormous sums of money"
Hurling costing us ... Henry Shefflin another huge costing as well..
Belclare7 (Galway) - Posts: 143 - 10/12/2024 10:37:24
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Replying To TanCanRan: "1. That actually doesn't address anything I said. All money generated at league or championship doesn't go to the county board.
2. Raise funds for who?
3. It's a white elephant. You can't play league or championship and now the FDB is dead, it can only cater for challenge games or training sessions. You can't even play school's championship games there.
4. Yes. But now it's a county board, it's for the whole county.
5. Footballers benefitted greatly from the merger. They couldn't even get a sponsor pre-Supermacs
6. And has since pulled out early of the deal. You know this right? Probably going to have to come back cap on hand/" I've no dog in this fight, but let's be realistic here. How would Supermacs giving over by what all accounts is a modest enough amount supposed to make up for the millions of debt the footballers had to take 50% responsibility despite no involvement? On top of losing half rights to their training center?
Wasn't there a big story about Dexicom coming in with a big sponsorship deal but it was quashed through loyalty to Supermacs. I'm sure the footballers would be better off if that went through
Lastly, it was fairly common knowledge that Kevin Walsh was working off a fraction of the funds of Michael Donoghue at the latter end of the last decade. I believe it's back to relative parity now (KK mans salary aside),but it's once again it was only one side that got the raw end of the deal back then
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Replying To TanCanRan: "You better go back and research that. They couldn't get a sponsor for a couple of seasons after Aer Arann. So what you're saying simply isn't true.
For one, the hurling community have two stadiums and kindly allow football into Ballinasloe on plenty of occasions. The only stadium currently with lights. I think it's you who hasn't a clue. There's life past the N17." Didnt realise that Ballinasloe was primarily a hurling community from a GAA perspective? Played in 35 county football finals winning 20!
Played in 6 hurling finals winning 1. At best it is a dual community but if you were to make a polarised statement it would have to lean towards football.
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I think the funding arguments above are pointless. It is not hurling money or football money, its Galway GAA money and mainly Galway people money. Im primarily a football man but cheer for the hurlers every bit as much and celebrate their wins just as much as I think most do. Mountain south ended up being a disaster but there is nothing that can be done about that now. it makes sense to me that it is Galway people together who will rescue it and move it on. Funding is relatively fairly allocated now between the hurlers and footballers and the success of one will benefit the other
Trucker1 (Galway) - Posts: 402 - 10/12/2024 12:20:25
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Replying To anotheralias: "Didnt realise that Ballinasloe was primarily a hurling community from a GAA perspective? Played in 35 county football finals winning 20!
Played in 6 hurling finals winning 1. At best it is a dual community but if you were to make a polarised statement it would have to lean towards football." Ballinasloe the club aren't based out of Duggan Park. So point not really relevant. Unless you're trying to suggest that Duggan Park isn't primarily a hurling venue? Which obviously isn't true.
TanCanRan (Galway) - Posts: 236 - 10/12/2024 14:59:11
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Galway hurling fans have a certain arrogance which I don't get. They don't bother to support the Football and it is well known that they have drove football out of clubs in South Galway.
Let's talk about facts here about Galway hurling.
We have 5 all Irelands losing 20 finals! This is in a competition that over the last 60/70 years has had max 7/8 Counties capable of competing to a decent level !! Yes bad I know! But there is more, until 2009 we were landed straight into an all Ireland hurling semi or quarter final (majority a semi final ) and every third year it was against Ulster opposition so basically an all Ireland final. I REPEAT 5 ALL IRELANDS.
We played in Munster from 1959 to 1969 and won just one of twelve games!
Our hurling clubs do well at a national level because we get straight to an all Ireland semi final.
I support Galway hurling and want it to do well but please Galway hurling people don't be turning your noses up at Galway football. We are a poor hurling county and the facts speak for themselves.
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Replying To TanCanRan: "Ballinasloe the club aren't based out of Duggan Park. So point not really relevant. Unless you're trying to suggest that Duggan Park isn't primarily a hurling venue? Which obviously isn't true." Really dont understand your point. More big Hurling games are played in Ballinasloe than there are football. Agreed. But that's for geographical/logistic reasons as Ballinasloe/Gabriels/Kiltormer/Caltra/St Brendans/Menlough ( all former senior football clubs) have fallen down the ranks. Duggan Park was regularly a venue for NFL football games in the past.
But my point is that even if the pitch is used now more for hurling than football , it's still very much a dual venue and not a "hurling board" venue. Look I really am not trying to make a football / hurling issue out of this as I've said on a previous post, there are plusses and minuses in terms of the relative contribution to, and consumption of, our resources and I trust county board as they have shown themselves to be balanced and unbigoted ( wish I could say the same for some clubs in the south of the county). However I will argue all day with someone who says that Duggan Park is a part of a contribution that the hurling community brings to the table
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Replying To Green&Gold2013: "Galway hurling fans have a certain arrogance which I don't get. They don't bother to support the Football and it is well known that they have drove football out of clubs in South Galway.
Let's talk about facts here about Galway hurling.
We have 5 all Irelands losing 20 finals! This is in a competition that over the last 60/70 years has had max 7/8 Counties capable of competing to a decent level !! Yes bad I know! But there is more, until 2009 we were landed straight into an all Ireland hurling semi or quarter final (majority a semi final ) and every third year it was against Ulster opposition so basically an all Ireland final. I REPEAT 5 ALL IRELANDS.
We played in Munster from 1959 to 1969 and won just one of twelve games!
Our hurling clubs do well at a national level because we get straight to an all Ireland semi final.
I support Galway hurling and want it to do well but please Galway hurling people don't be turning your noses up at Galway football. We are a poor hurling county and the facts speak for themselves." We are far better at football than we are hurling.
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Replying To t.g: "We are far better at football than we are hurling." When was the last time the footballers won an all ireland
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Replying To BigBàsMan: "When was the last time the footballers won an all ireland" 3 years ago
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Replying To Belclare7: "3 years ago" Senior all Ireland 2001 buddy
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Replying To Green&Gold2013: "Galway hurling fans have a certain arrogance which I don't get. They don't bother to support the Football and it is well known that they have drove football out of clubs in South Galway.
Let's talk about facts here about Galway hurling.
We have 5 all Irelands losing 20 finals! This is in a competition that over the last 60/70 years has had max 7/8 Counties capable of competing to a decent level !! Yes bad I know! But there is more, until 2009 we were landed straight into an all Ireland hurling semi or quarter final (majority a semi final ) and every third year it was against Ulster opposition so basically an all Ireland final. I REPEAT 5 ALL IRELANDS.
We played in Munster from 1959 to 1969 and won just one of twelve games!
Our hurling clubs do well at a national level because we get straight to an all Ireland semi final.
I support Galway hurling and want it to do well but please Galway hurling people don't be turning your noses up at Galway football. We are a poor hurling county and the facts speak for themselves." Why don't you delve a little deeper down to Minor and U21.
Football Minor - 7
Hurling Minor - 14
U21 Football - 6
U21 Hurling - 10
So across the board:
Football have 23 All-Irelands.
Hurling have 29 All-Irelands.
Never mind club.
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Replying To anotheralias: "Really dont understand your point. More big Hurling games are played in Ballinasloe than there are football. Agreed. But that's for geographical/logistic reasons as Ballinasloe/Gabriels/Kiltormer/Caltra/St Brendans/Menlough ( all former senior football clubs) have fallen down the ranks. Duggan Park was regularly a venue for NFL football games in the past.
But my point is that even if the pitch is used now more for hurling than football , it's still very much a dual venue and not a "hurling board" venue. Look I really am not trying to make a football / hurling issue out of this as I've said on a previous post, there are plusses and minuses in terms of the relative contribution to, and consumption of, our resources and I trust county board as they have shown themselves to be balanced and unbigoted ( wish I could say the same for some clubs in the south of the county). However I will argue all day with someone who says that Duggan Park is a part of a contribution that the hurling community brings to the table" Well if that's the case, Tuam is a dual venue. It hosts hurling too.
As for jib at south Galway clubs, Tuam Stars, Corofin and Milltown actively promote hurling do they? Must nip down to a few Corofin hurling games. Many football clubs are every bit as bad. And for every Kinvara or Mountbellew-Moylough, there's a Craughwell or Cororin.
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Replying To PressureKick: "I've no dog in this fight, but let's be realistic here. How would Supermacs giving over by what all accounts is a modest enough amount supposed to make up for the millions of debt the footballers had to take 50% responsibility despite no involvement? On top of losing half rights to their training center?
Wasn't there a big story about Dexicom coming in with a big sponsorship deal but it was quashed through loyalty to Supermacs. I'm sure the footballers would be better off if that went through
Lastly, it was fairly common knowledge that Kevin Walsh was working off a fraction of the funds of Michael Donoghue at the latter end of the last decade. I believe it's back to relative parity now (KK mans salary aside),but it's once again it was only one side that got the raw end of the deal back then" An awful lot of words for very little facts. Link us to the Dexcom story and also how modest Supermacs money is in comparison to other counties. I won't hold my breath.
TanCanRan (Galway) - Posts: 236 - 10/12/2024 20:29:00
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Replying To Green&Gold2013: "Galway hurling fans have a certain arrogance which I don't get. They don't bother to support the Football and it is well known that they have drove football out of clubs in South Galway.
Let's talk about facts here about Galway hurling.
We have 5 all Irelands losing 20 finals! This is in a competition that over the last 60/70 years has had max 7/8 Counties capable of competing to a decent level !! Yes bad I know! But there is more, until 2009 we were landed straight into an all Ireland hurling semi or quarter final (majority a semi final ) and every third year it was against Ulster opposition so basically an all Ireland final. I REPEAT 5 ALL IRELANDS.
We played in Munster from 1959 to 1969 and won just one of twelve games!
Our hurling clubs do well at a national level because we get straight to an all Ireland semi final.
I support Galway hurling and want it to do well but please Galway hurling people don't be turning your noses up at Galway football. We are a poor hurling county and the facts speak for themselves." Let's talk about facts, you say. A lot of your facts there are factually incorrect.
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Replying To TanCanRan: "Why don't you delve a little deeper down to Minor and U21.
Football Minor - 7
Hurling Minor - 14
U21 Football - 6
U21 Hurling - 10
So across the board:
Football have 23 All-Irelands.
Hurling have 29 All-Irelands.
Never mind club." But sure there is only 6 or 7 counties playing serious hurling.. and ye were getting a bye straight into semi finals for most of them....
Will ya stop ...
Belclare7 (Galway) - Posts: 143 - 10/12/2024 21:50:20
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Replying To TanCanRan: "An awful lot of words for very little facts. Link us to the Dexcom story and also how modest Supermacs money is in comparison to other counties. I won't hold my breath." The Dexcom offer was for naming rights at Pearse. Galway GAA turned it down. (To be fair they wanted to retain Pearse somewhere in the name, and rightly so in my opinion, and seems that wasn't an option. So Dexcom turned to the Sportsground and they had no problem granting naming rights and availing of sizeable sponsorship for Connacht Rugby. It was two other major companies in the medical device industry, one in particular, who had major offers turned down!
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