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Replying To ahsure.:  "Conor Flaherty back in with Galway? Excellent news."
Sorry, credit Maurice Brosnan for that one. Seniors had a challenge game yesterday.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1633 - 10/12/2023 12:22:22    2516181

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John gone from saltillo Frank Doherty with spiddal, donellen with MB.

Any other appointments?

Stripsandbanners (Galway) - Posts: 82 - 10/12/2023 16:49:55    2516215

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Replying To Stripsandbanners:  "John gone from saltillo Frank Doherty with spiddal, donellen with MB.

Any other appointments?"
Which Donnellan?

gaillimhboy (Galway) - Posts: 360 - 10/12/2023 23:04:18    2516291

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Replying To ahsure.:  "Sorry, credit Maurice Brosnan for that one. Seniors had a challenge game yesterday."
Any idea of what the team/squad was?

Trucker1 (Galway) - Posts: 403 - 12/12/2023 10:19:07    2516444

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Colm Tummon and Paddy Moran are with Michael Breathnachs i am informed.

MapleSyrup (Galway) - Posts: 165 - 12/12/2023 13:00:50    2516492

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Coming towards the end of the year and looking towards 2024. Time to start thinking of a wish list for 2024.
Initially I was thinking of some ideals, like Galway to beat Mayo by 10 points in Connacht championship, both sides to progress to the AI , where Galway win again, this time by 20 points.
But I'm a bit like the child who is a bit suspicious about Santa Claus and decides not to ask for what he really wants , but asks for something realistic and affordable instead. Hence see my list below:

1. Galway senior management blood more players during the league , resting some key players. This will prevent burn out of key players and give us more options at the business end..... even if this risks Div 1 survival. Getting to a League Final and winning Connacht was good in 2023... but it still goes down as a bad year due to our late season collapse,

2. County Board get their competition rules sorted early and clearly and if there is any room for ambiguity then communication to clubs and media needs to be very clear. 2023 was very badly handled from that perspective. Please learn from these lessons.

3. Competitions to revert to old age grades U18 and U21. Club and county. Mayo had u21 competitions this year and i think its vital to keep lads playing in these 19 to 21 grades.

4. Inter county u21 to be allowed use county senior panelists. Alternative strategies can be used to look after players welfare. But its ridiculous that lads on senior panels miss under 20x games at the same time as they are doing harder runs in senior training sessions.

5. No more talk of "what we need to do save football" . The game is different now, but is still brilliant . Look at the brilliant entertainment served up in brutal conditions in the 2 provincial finals last Sunday. Yes there will be bad games as well as good ones...that's sport.

6. As a follow on from 5 , no rule changes in 2024. Yes we should continue to look for rule tweaks that will improve and make our games fairer and safer. But let 2024 be a year of let the hare sit , analyse more , and only then if there are tweaks to be made lets make them ....but none of this knee jerk type changes like shot clocks or zones or numbers of consecutive handpasses.

7. Scheduling : 2023 was a good year for scheduling with most competitions ran on time. Lets maintain this and improve if possible. Delay in the West Junior championship really hurt Menlough in the end with a big gap followed by 5 successive weekends. I think this cost them a Connacht title ( in a year that we won no Connacht club men's titles)


All reasonable requests but am hoping rather than anticipating.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 960 - 12/12/2023 13:20:37    2516493

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Replying To ahsure.:  "Conor Flaherty back in with Galway? Excellent news."
He surely needs to be in goal for his club if he's playing there for Galway.

PierreBezuhov (UK) - Posts: 231 - 12/12/2023 13:52:23    2516497

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "He surely needs to be in goal for his club if he's playing there for Galway."
Does Stephen Cluxton or Rory Beggan?Just wondering.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 372 - 12/12/2023 14:30:57    2516506

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "He surely needs to be in goal for his club if he's playing there for Galway."
Niall Morgan doesn't play in goals for Edendork, Stephen Cluxton doesn't play in goals for Parnells, Damien McCusker from the Derry winning team in 1993 didn't play in goals for Glen. If Conor is the best keeper at training he needs to be considered.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 776 - 12/12/2023 14:31:08    2516507

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "He surely needs to be in goal for his club if he's playing there for Galway."
Sorry Rory Beggan does play in goals for club,it just seems like he doesn't cos he spends a huge amount of time up the field.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 372 - 12/12/2023 14:35:34    2516508

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Coming towards the end of the year and looking towards 2024. Time to start thinking of a wish list for 2024.
Initially I was thinking of some ideals, like Galway to beat Mayo by 10 points in Connacht championship, both sides to progress to the AI , where Galway win again, this time by 20 points.
But I'm a bit like the child who is a bit suspicious about Santa Claus and decides not to ask for what he really wants , but asks for something realistic and affordable instead. Hence see my list below:

1. Galway senior management blood more players during the league , resting some key players. This will prevent burn out of key players and give us more options at the business end..... even if this risks Div 1 survival. Getting to a League Final and winning Connacht was good in 2023... but it still goes down as a bad year due to our late season collapse,

2. County Board get their competition rules sorted early and clearly and if there is any room for ambiguity then communication to clubs and media needs to be very clear. 2023 was very badly handled from that perspective. Please learn from these lessons.

3. Competitions to revert to old age grades U18 and U21. Club and county. Mayo had u21 competitions this year and i think its vital to keep lads playing in these 19 to 21 grades.

4. Inter county u21 to be allowed use county senior panelists. Alternative strategies can be used to look after players welfare. But its ridiculous that lads on senior panels miss under 20x games at the same time as they are doing harder runs in senior training sessions.

5. No more talk of "what we need to do save football" . The game is different now, but is still brilliant . Look at the brilliant entertainment served up in brutal conditions in the 2 provincial finals last Sunday. Yes there will be bad games as well as good ones...that's sport.

6. As a follow on from 5 , no rule changes in 2024. Yes we should continue to look for rule tweaks that will improve and make our games fairer and safer. But let 2024 be a year of let the hare sit , analyse more , and only then if there are tweaks to be made lets make them ....but none of this knee jerk type changes like shot clocks or zones or numbers of consecutive handpasses.

7. Scheduling : 2023 was a good year for scheduling with most competitions ran on time. Lets maintain this and improve if possible. Delay in the West Junior championship really hurt Menlough in the end with a big gap followed by 5 successive weekends. I think this cost them a Connacht title ( in a year that we won no Connacht club men's titles)


All reasonable requests but am hoping rather than anticipating."
Great Post.
I'd get rid of the FBD and maybe look at the 3rd level calendar as well.
I just think the training at the moment and games for a guy who is around 19, in College and from a good senior club is unsustainable never mind the travel involved.
There are guys involved in professional set ups(Connacht/AFL) not even doing as much.

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 443 - 12/12/2023 15:05:27    2516512

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Unfortunately no hope of Galway changing back to even ages at under age majority of counties have changed think 21 so far I'd say if every county did Galway still would not pure madness,, I seen something where they are now trying blame croke park for forcing them to buy mountain south for 3 million and then forced them to sell it at massive loss that tells u Whete Galway county board are at not taking responsibility for a daft decision

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 966 - 12/12/2023 17:23:58    2516528

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Replying To Kickitout:  "Unfortunately no hope of Galway changing back to even ages at under age majority of counties have changed think 21 so far I'd say if every county did Galway still would not pure madness,, I seen something where they are now trying blame croke park for forcing them to buy mountain south for 3 million and then forced them to sell it at massive loss that tells u Whete Galway county board are at not taking responsibility for a daft decision"
That's a bit of a misrepresentation. The current board had nothing to do with the purchase of Mountain South but have had to deal with the financial implications. The decision was made by a previous administration. As a county we're paying over €300K a year to service the debt, so saying they haven't taken responsibility isn't true at all.
What the current Treasurer said is that Croke Park were involved to some degree in the original decision to purchase the land, but have left Galway to take the full hit.
They also forced Galway to sell it at a time when it was at its lowest value. Whether that was the correct decision is debatable. His point is that Croke Park should take some responsibility for their part in the mess.
In fairness to the current board, they've turned around the finances massively for Galway GAA. It's night and day compared to what was going on before.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2223 - 12/12/2023 22:37:02    2516557

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Anyone who believes that the game is not in crisis is delusional.

Stripsandbanners (Galway) - Posts: 82 - 13/12/2023 20:14:11    2516663

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Replying To Stripsandbanners:  "Anyone who believes that the game is not in crisis is delusional."
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have offered my opinion ( which is shared by many as well as opposed by many) without ridiculing people who have the alternative view.
Taking your comment re "delusional " and "crisis"

Delusional - characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgements about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition.

Crisis - a time of intense difficulty or danger.

So plugging these into your statement you are stating that there is incontrovertible evidence that the game is in intense difficulty or danger.

Can you provide some examples of this incontrovertible evidence.

As an aid you might want to double check what the meaning of incontrovertible

----not able to be denied or disputed.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 960 - 14/12/2023 16:24:24    2516797

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Replying To Trucker1:  "Any idea of what the team/squad was?"
Sorry no clue.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1633 - 14/12/2023 18:05:51    2516818

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Your response just add credence to my use of "delusional" in addition to: talk away the problem and ostrich

Stripsandbanners (Galway) - Posts: 82 - 14/12/2023 19:21:59    2516829

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Allias the vast majority of level headed thinking people would agree that football as a spectacle is indeed in crisis.

Apart from a odd game here and there it is very difficult on the eye and on your arse trying to watch it.

So many well informed high profile people O Rourke, Spillane, Brolly etc have called for change.

Yes delusional maybe to strong a word but stop denying the evidence unfolding in front of us.

northbouind (Galway) - Posts: 305 - 14/12/2023 20:06:01    2516833

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Replying To northbouind:  "Allias the vast majority of level headed thinking people would agree that football as a spectacle is indeed in crisis.

Apart from a odd game here and there it is very difficult on the eye and on your arse trying to watch it.

So many well informed high profile people O Rourke, Spillane, Brolly etc have called for change.

Yes delusional maybe to strong a word but stop denying the evidence unfolding in front of us."
Again I ask for evidence? Where is it? Big game attendances , huge TV and steaming viewership . In general higher scoring games than ever before . These are incontrovertible stats. For sure there are other stats that are concerning i.e. ratio of footpasses to handpasses is low, number of contested kickouts is low . These are incontrovertible stats to support the other argument .. But there is no clear cut incontrovertible case in either direction.
You must be talking to different people to me because I dont know where the "vast majority" is. Also I have noticed that many of the people who I talk with that agree with me are in the upper quartile on the IQ spectrum and the ones with alternative views tend to be further down the scale. Now I'm not quoting that as fact , its just my own personal observation.
And please ( and this is just a request), dont quote Colm O Rourke , Pat Spillane or Joe Brolly to support your argument because ( again only my opinion) using their names only weakens the argument.
One last point , when have we ever had 2 players in the game of the calibre of DC and SW who are just a pleasure to watch... You can quote any of the names in the past that you wish ( and indeed there have been some good ones) but these 2 are the best I've ever seen.
Apart from these , I am a long long time watching football, and I have never enjoyed it as much as I do now - last weekends games were a particular example.
I really really hope that the GAA does not apply a knee jerk reaction in terms of complex rule changes.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 960 - 15/12/2023 10:00:55    2516882

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Again I ask for evidence? Where is it? Big game attendances , huge TV and steaming viewership . In general higher scoring games than ever before . These are incontrovertible stats. For sure there are other stats that are concerning i.e. ratio of footpasses to handpasses is low, number of contested kickouts is low . These are incontrovertible stats to support the other argument .. But there is no clear cut incontrovertible case in either direction.
You must be talking to different people to me because I dont know where the "vast majority" is. Also I have noticed that many of the people who I talk with that agree with me are in the upper quartile on the IQ spectrum and the ones with alternative views tend to be further down the scale. Now I'm not quoting that as fact , its just my own personal observation.
And please ( and this is just a request), dont quote Colm O Rourke , Pat Spillane or Joe Brolly to support your argument because ( again only my opinion) using their names only weakens the argument.
One last point , when have we ever had 2 players in the game of the calibre of DC and SW who are just a pleasure to watch... You can quote any of the names in the past that you wish ( and indeed there have been some good ones) but these 2 are the best I've ever seen.
Apart from these , I am a long long time watching football, and I have never enjoyed it as much as I do now - last weekends games were a particular example.
I really really hope that the GAA does not apply a knee jerk reaction in terms of complex rule changes."
I for one definitely agree with u if they stop messing with rules it would help get rid of inside mark it's rubbish rewarding a player for catching a 20 yard pass inside the 45 deftness, ,, the season needs to be extended for championship for min 3 more weeks and in reality the league should not start mid feb ,, by st Patrick weekend majority of counties will have most of there matches played makes no sense at all

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 966 - 15/12/2023 12:08:16    2516907

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