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Replying To galwayman2: "Oranmore are weak this year. They're a shadow of the team they were a few years back." Why, when were they any good?
hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 417 - 25/09/2023 12:06:10
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Replying To GDL: "Unfortunately this won't happen but next year we should have 4 groups of 4 teams. The top two in each group (1st and 2nd) after the three games should go into the quarters and then semi finals and then the final to find the champions. The bottom two in each group (3rd and 4th place) should go into a relegation format similar to above with quarter finals and semi finals, if you win your quarter final or semi final you are safe and if you lose them we relegate the two teams beaten in the relegation semi and bring the Intermediate champions and runners up to Senior football. This rewards the two best Intermediate teams. We'd then see no meaningless games. You win or you get relegated. The same should happen in the Intermediate championship with the two worst teams getting relegated and two best teams from Junior getting promoted to Intermediate." 1 up & 1 down is fair enough. It would take from intermediate final IMO if ya have the lsoer going up. I also think structure next year should be top 2 in each group in quaters with bottom teams palying each other in rlegation semi with losers in final and then loser of that down to intermediate. I dont agree with prelim QF finishing 3rd in a group of 4 & still bein in championship. If as mentioned above that there is an appeal by Michaels this will create a huge headache for Co board. I beleive the games from group 2 are to be played this Thurs night. With Tuam sitting waiting for the pre lim QF spot on the Monday.
Eire89 (Galway) - Posts: 304 - 25/09/2023 12:21:27
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Glan vs Cortoon - Glan looked fairly impressive so far - they are a fit physical team and never lacking for heart with plenty of good footballers. Glan by 8.
Aran vs Caltra - This will be close. Caltra look impressive with two Mannion's, and have some other lively forwards. A lot better than last year. Caltra by 1.
Kilconly vs Brendan's - All Kilconly's group games were tight and they came out the right side of them all. Brendan's have 1 or 2 nice players but if you stop them, not much else. Kilconly by 3.
Monivea vs MB - Was surprised MB just bet Williamstown by 3, as their results in group looked impressive. Monivea by 3.
Glan vs Kilconly final if they don't meet.
hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 417 - 25/09/2023 12:23:53
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Replying To hopballref: "Why, when were they any good?" They were one of the better sides in intermediate a few years back.
They are nowhere near that now,
galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1291 - 25/09/2023 12:46:16
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Replying To hopballref: "Glan vs Cortoon - Glan looked fairly impressive so far - they are a fit physical team and never lacking for heart with plenty of good footballers. Glan by 8.
Aran vs Caltra - This will be close. Caltra look impressive with two Mannion's, and have some other lively forwards. A lot better than last year. Caltra by 1.
Kilconly vs Brendan's - All Kilconly's group games were tight and they came out the right side of them all. Brendan's have 1 or 2 nice players but if you stop them, not much else. Kilconly by 3.
Monivea vs MB - Was surprised MB just bet Williamstown by 3, as their results in group looked impressive. Monivea by 3.
Glan vs Kilconly final if they don't meet." I wouldn't be as confident with Glan, there won't be much between them and cortoon. Monivea are the real dark horses
allstars23 (Galway) - Posts: 48 - 25/09/2023 12:53:11
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Replying To GDL: "Unfortunately this won't happen but next year we should have 4 groups of 4 teams. The top two in each group (1st and 2nd) after the three games should go into the quarters and then semi finals and then the final to find the champions. The bottom two in each group (3rd and 4th place) should go into a relegation format similar to above with quarter finals and semi finals, if you win your quarter final or semi final you are safe and if you lose them we relegate the two teams beaten in the relegation semi and bring the Intermediate champions and runners up to Senior football. This rewards the two best Intermediate teams. We'd then see no meaningless games. You win or you get relegated. The same should happen in the Intermediate championship with the two worst teams getting relegated and two best teams from Junior getting promoted to Intermediate." We'll have the 4 groups of 4, but you're right in that it'll almost certainly be 1 up and 1 down.
I wouldn't be against 2 up and 2 down, but the only negative with that is it does lessen the importance of the intermediate championship final. It takes a bit of the edge off it.
We've had some incredible games in recent years which have been winner takes all. However, I can see the merit in 2 going up and of course both would still be very keen to win the title and represent Galway in the Connacht intermediate championship.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2223 - 25/09/2023 13:20:37
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Glan-Cortoon, Glan will win this by 5 or more.
Aran vs Caltra. Aran will grind this out. 2 or more
Kilconly vs Brendan's, this will be very tight but Kilconly just about.
Monivea vs MB- Monivea by 5 or more
Castlebar2019 (Mayo) - Posts: 25 - 25/09/2023 13:58:59
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Replying To WanPintWin: "We currently have a 17 team championship, so we have 2 groups of 6 and 1 group of 5. That automatically means 5 rounds of games. The group stages would be finished yesterday if the weather didn't wash out a full group of games.
Dublin have a 16 team Senior 1 championship (which we will also have next year). They have 4 groups of 4, so only 3 rounds of group games to play. They then go straight to quarters, while we're doing preliminary quarters.
Next year will be simpler where we'll have 4 groups of 4. The only decision then will be whether we have preliminary quarters for the teams who finish second and third (as we've done in Intermediate this year), or go straight to quarters with the top 2 in each group.
There are arguments for both. The preliminary quarters can ensure more meaningful games in the last round, but it does mean an extra weekend.
The structure was announced months ago and was on schedule til the bad weather yesterday.
Has it only dawned on you now?" Plenty of space for preliminary qfinals, with 5 rounds reducing to 3 next year. Should still play the lot in 7 weekends. Four teams contesting relegation in a round robin league group is a better number imo, than involving half of the senior sides in a relegation battle. Just need clarity on the 'tiebreak' rules, and it should run like clockwork. 1up 1down for relegation would be fine with 16 senior sides.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3911 - 25/09/2023 14:26:37
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Plenty of space for preliminary qfinals, with 5 rounds reducing to 3 next year. Should still play the lot in 7 weekends. Four teams contesting relegation in a round robin league group is a better number imo, than involving half of the senior sides in a relegation battle. Just need clarity on the 'tiebreak' rules, and it should run like clockwork. 1up 1down for relegation would be fine with 16 senior sides." It 'should' be a lot cleaner next year for sure. The process of going from 20 to 16 has meant some unusual formats, but it's the right thing in my opinion.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2223 - 25/09/2023 15:07:12
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Replying To anotheralias: "Yea. The county board are doing a good job in general but they have made a mess of this. Went the rule came out from Croke Park they should have taken care to be very clear to the clubs, the media and the general public about the rules being adopted for each competition. I flagged this potential issue weeks back but the response from the county board was deafening. They did an ostrich job and hoped that results would dig them out of the hole." Doing a good job in general but the weather at the weekend was well flagged so could have planned a little better . Heard there were 2 matches in Headford Saturday which meant the chances of a match going ahead Sunday were slim given that Headford would be regarded as a heavy pitch. Had the County board any plan b for that venue or any of the other venues not playable. Hard to blame other clubs in the group not wanting to play if one game not going ahead given the overall status of the group.
fairplay4ever (Galway) - Posts: 429 - 25/09/2023 15:49:27
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Replying To GalwaysFinest: "What exactly are Michael's appealing on?
The rule was known in advance. I feel bad for Sixmilebridge in Clare who were the first team to get 'caught out' by it, but its become known since.
Regarding the pitches, I understand Moycullen may have been bad, but could an alternative pitch not have been sought for that fixture, rather than having to postpone the other two games.
Seems crazy bringing Caherlistrane and Killannin to Ballinasloe on a Thursday evening.
Corofin or Loughgeorge would have been a better venue for this fixture.
This time of the year always sparks conversation of the lack of pitches in the county with floodlights. Could Dangan hold a club fixture? Would be a very central location if a west board team were playing a north board team." Dangan holds all the sigerson games so definitely be able to hold club game but no stand I suppose.The problem would be spectators can be right on the pitch there.
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 372 - 25/09/2023 17:11:19
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Replying To WanPintWin: "We'll have the 4 groups of 4, but you're right in that it'll almost certainly be 1 up and 1 down.
I wouldn't be against 2 up and 2 down, but the only negative with that is it does lessen the importance of the intermediate championship final. It takes a bit of the edge off it.
We've had some incredible games in recent years which have been winner takes all. However, I can see the merit in 2 going up and of course both would still be very keen to win the title and represent Galway in the Connacht intermediate championship." Problem with 2 up and 2 down is if a club with a senior team is playing in an intermediate final they can't go up win or lose.So who is the second team?Would have to have a play off between losing semi finalists
Could get messy.Reckon it will be one up one down as in most counties.
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 372 - 25/09/2023 17:53:14
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Great that Tuam Stadium surface was perfect all weekend to hold the games...
Galwaymaster9 (Galway) - Posts: 397 - 25/09/2023 17:59:17
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Replying To allstars23: "I wouldn't be as confident with Glan, there won't be much between them and cortoon. Monivea are the real dark horses" No hope Glan win by 8 in my opinion they mighr do well score 1-10 I'd say as for monivea being dark horses I'd imagine they fav win it out this year if they avoid each other I'd go for monivea v kincoly final with monivea win
My prediction quarter
Monivea by 4
Caltra by. 3
Cortoon by 1
Kincoly by. 4
Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 966 - 25/09/2023 18:13:39
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Replying To hopballref: "Why, when were they any good?" 1996
Mayo52 (Mayo) - Posts: 44 - 25/09/2023 19:35:28
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Replying To Alwaysencourage: "Dangan holds all the sigerson games so definitely be able to hold club game but no stand I suppose.The problem would be spectators can be right on the pitch there." If they can't collect a gate or have a secure sideline they won't hold it in these pitches
minor77 (Galway) - Posts: 249 - 25/09/2023 19:45:17
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Replying To GalwaysFinest: "What exactly are Michael's appealing on?
The rule was known in advance. I feel bad for Sixmilebridge in Clare who were the first team to get 'caught out' by it, but its become known since.
Regarding the pitches, I understand Moycullen may have been bad, but could an alternative pitch not have been sought for that fixture, rather than having to postpone the other two games.
Seems crazy bringing Caherlistrane and Killannin to Ballinasloe on a Thursday evening.
Corofin or Loughgeorge would have been a better venue for this fixture.
This time of the year always sparks conversation of the lack of pitches in the county with floodlights. Could Dangan hold a club fixture? Would be a very central location if a west board team were playing a north board team." I think the rule is a bit more complex than you make it out to be Similebridge got done by the application of the new rule St Michael's got done by the failure to apply the new rule even though the hurling championship are applying it. So it's not as black as white as it seems. I flagged this potential issue a few weeks back and I predict now that if tuam and St Michael's have the stomach fir a legal battle then this will end up being a playoff.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 960 - 25/09/2023 23:16:26
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Replying To Alwaysencourage: "Dangan holds all the sigerson games so definitely be able to hold club game but no stand I suppose.The problem would be spectators can be right on the pitch there." I know in theory it can hold it, I guess my question is more so would it be able to hold it because technically it isnt a Galway Gaa pitch, like a club grounds or a county board grounds? Dangan also has a small stand now so it is a perfect place for a club/college game.
But obviously the main issue Galway GAA would have would be €€€ because people can come into Dangan from the college side too.
Surely on this occasion they'd take some small financial hit and allow the game to the played there rather than have players trapsing all over the county on a Thursday evening.
GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 191 - 26/09/2023 09:09:24
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Replying To anotheralias: "I think the rule is a bit more complex than you make it out to be Similebridge got done by the application of the new rule St Michael's got done by the failure to apply the new rule even though the hurling championship are applying it. So it's not as black as white as it seems. I flagged this potential issue a few weeks back and I predict now that if tuam and St Michael's have the stomach fir a legal battle then this will end up being a playoff." How would it be a play off? Its either tuam or Michael's in relegation, i just hope it doesn't hold up the championship,
More to the point the county board must not look at the weather coming in on Wednesday and Thursday games could be called off again I can't understand why they were not fixed for tonight and this would give players as much time to recover as possible, plus bringing barna all the way to milltown to play corofin is a joke
Fox.1n.7he.b0x (Galway) - Posts: 135 - 26/09/2023 10:23:59
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Replying To anotheralias: "I think the rule is a bit more complex than you make it out to be Similebridge got done by the application of the new rule St Michael's got done by the failure to apply the new rule even though the hurling championship are applying it. So it's not as black as white as it seems. I flagged this potential issue a few weeks back and I predict now that if tuam and St Michael's have the stomach fir a legal battle then this will end up being a playoff." It sounds fairly clear to me. The hurling championship are applying the new rule from Central Council. The football championship are not. Clubs were made aware of this beforehand.
It's not a failure to apply the new rule, as you've said. They're simply not applying it and clubs were informed.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2223 - 26/09/2023 11:34:16
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