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Replying To anotheralias:  "Good question. There is no issue playing in Division 2 in terms of impact to prep for AI. But the fear I have with Div 2 is that you could end up near the bottom. I agree with you that it shouldn't matter with a mature team like Galway but with dangerous teams like Cork, Meath, Louth, Kikdare and a bad run you could end up in a position that jeopardises Sam Maguire participation. Of course for 2024 we are guaranteed qualification but you have to think of the years ahead. Also playing in Div 1 increases profile/ TV coverage and this influences the younger generation and the years ahead.
Complete forfeiture of the league to maximise 2024 chances is like selling the family silver to go on holidays,"
You were one who invented the term 'complete forfeiture' here, not anybody else. Perhaps you 'invented' it, so that you could disagree vehemently........with yourself!!

I spoke of not overcommitting energy to NFL status, and gave examples of teams having elite level championship success with this approach, over a 1,2,3 season timeframe. You're the only one mentioning 'complete forfeiture' here so far.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4297 - 07/07/2023 13:47:22    2492923

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Sigerson is also a problem for Galway, Kerry & Dublin certainly don't have as many players playing in the competition as Galway. If I was too name Galway best 26 players I'd say nearly half of them were playing Sigerson last year. Lets hope a good few of them were in their final year.

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 294 - 07/07/2023 15:10:20    2492950

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Biggest problem in Galway they keep brining back same players every jan and they gone by March need find a top class goalie who quick on kicouts and can actually take short ones ,, also need stop giving opponents there own kickouts and dropping off marking space , the Dubs don't give up kickouts they mighr not win them all but u earn them , need hold proper trials from November to early jan not Jusr box ticking exercise,,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1097 - 07/07/2023 15:14:46    2492952

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "You were one who invented the term 'complete forfeiture' here, not anybody else. Perhaps you 'invented' it, so that you could disagree vehemently........with yourself!!

I spoke of not overcommitting energy to NFL status, and gave examples of teams having elite level championship success with this approach, over a 1,2,3 season timeframe. You're the only one mentioning 'complete forfeiture' here so far."
I will try to explain it a bit clearer. In terms of the effort committed to the league there are 2 extremes. At one end we make it the highest priority at that time , at the other end is that we make it a very low priority ( the term forfeiture might be a bit extreme and might be causing people to miss the point).
In reality most teams invest effort levels somewhere between these 2 extremes.
I think we are all aligned that the not "overcommiting" ( your term ) for the league is the right approach.
But at some point we may need to "commit" more than would be ideal in order to retain Div 1 status. Failing to do this would be in my opinion "forfeiting " the league in favour of having the best chance of success later.
Unfortunately , although we have made great strides, we are not Kerry or Dublin and we cannot go through the league half-cooked ,or under committing, and expect to survive.
Now we might be lucky , and end up getting a couple of results without over committing and end up surviving , but its a risk. Is it a risk worth taking ? Well that's what I don't know and that's what I said at the start , its a very tough balancing act.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 999 - 07/07/2023 15:18:07    2492956

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Replying To Kickitout:  "Biggest problem in Galway they keep brining back same players every jan and they gone by March need find a top class goalie who quick on kicouts and can actually take short ones ,, also need stop giving opponents there own kickouts and dropping off marking space , the Dubs don't give up kickouts they mighr not win them all but u earn them , need hold proper trials from November to early jan not Jusr box ticking exercise,,,"
What I found weird is that Tadhg O'Malley played a half in the FBD and then was never seen again.
I don't think I've ever seen James Egan or James Keane play a game for Galway yet they've been training away with the panel at different stages over the last 2 years.
Surely early in the year is the time to have a look at them

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 544 - 09/07/2023 12:32:47    2493311

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Replying To smallfrank:  "What I found weird is that Tadhg O'Malley played a half in the FBD and then was never seen again.
I don't think I've ever seen James Egan or James Keane play a game for Galway yet they've been training away with the panel at different stages over the last 2 years.
Surely early in the year is the time to have a look at them"
If you went to support the under 20 team you'd know James Egan was still part of the team this year. One for the future

allstars23 (Galway) - Posts: 51 - 10/07/2023 03:05:15    2493481

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Yes have heard the Cian O'Neill rumours, big loss.

Who steps in?

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1718 - 10/07/2023 16:47:31    2493639

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I can't see. Cian o Neill stepping away unless he taking complete break what other top 8 county would he go with none I'd say and I've no doubt he getting well looked after ( and rightly so ) only my. Opinion;; inter county still a shorter season than club max 6 months club is almost 9 -10 months from when training starts ,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1097 - 10/07/2023 19:10:36    2493669

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There'll be no shortage of top coaches looking to get involved if O'Neill is gone. This Galway panel is very talented and has good depth to it.

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 294 - 11/07/2023 11:54:52    2493757

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Replying To TheBishop:  "There'll be no shortage of top coaches looking to get involved if O'Neill is gone. This Galway panel is very talented and has good depth to it."
Oh yeah? Such as?

johnjoe21 (Galway) - Posts: 134 - 11/07/2023 23:54:04    2493908

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I hear Moycullen have gone a recruiting drive again, this time its handballers can you ever be up with what they get into back there? I presume it will be hurlers next.

backtooldwall (Galway) - Posts: 159 - 13/07/2023 12:53:24    2494116

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Replying To johnjoe21:  "Oh yeah? Such as?"
Jimmy's Winning Matches

giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1289 - 13/07/2023 16:10:16    2494170

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Replying To smallfrank:  "Lee Keegan all day and now Cora Staunton this evening. John Casey, McStay, Martin Carney.
Is there not even 1 Galway man worthy of a job on the Sunday Game"
Thank You RTE for reacting to my post

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 544 - 16/07/2023 15:32:42    2494797

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I don't think CON is gone, necessarily. Seems to be talk that he may go, due to new personal commitments. I hope he stays. As for the old Jarlath's triumvirate, they have to recognise the glaring need for a top level forwards coach. The Old guard in our county board's typical response and excuse of 'sure who'd want it' is BS, it no longer rings true. It's a cop out to pretend so. There are lots of rising coaches who'd love a cut at it - folks with skills, knowledge, experience, sports and other relevant degrees and post grads. They'd have lots of raw talent to work with in our forwards but they have to be trained and gelled into a cohesive attacking force - that patently hasn't been the case. It's a disservice to our players to have them lining out without a full repertoire of go-to attacking plays and formations, that the likes of Dublin and others have been at for years. We just look like we rock up and expect our forwards to naturally click on the day. CON has some shape and structure put in place at the back, upfront is where we need a CON equivalent to build a really top level serious attack.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1089 - 18/07/2023 13:06:59    2495393

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Replying To togoutlads:  "I don't think CON is gone, necessarily. Seems to be talk that he may go, due to new personal commitments. I hope he stays. As for the old Jarlath's triumvirate, they have to recognise the glaring need for a top level forwards coach. The Old guard in our county board's typical response and excuse of 'sure who'd want it' is BS, it no longer rings true. It's a cop out to pretend so. There are lots of rising coaches who'd love a cut at it - folks with skills, knowledge, experience, sports and other relevant degrees and post grads. They'd have lots of raw talent to work with in our forwards but they have to be trained and gelled into a cohesive attacking force - that patently hasn't been the case. It's a disservice to our players to have them lining out without a full repertoire of go-to attacking plays and formations, that the likes of Dublin and others have been at for years. We just look like we rock up and expect our forwards to naturally click on the day. CON has some shape and structure put in place at the back, upfront is where we need a CON equivalent to build a really top level serious attack."
Great point. I feel if O'Neill goes, and I think he will, I can't see Galway getting 2 new coaches, one to replace O'Neill and one to coach the forwards. Unless there's a top class replacement, if O'Neill goes it'll set us back years. Backs were porous as a sieve before he came.
An all Ireland in the next couple of years will only happen while Comer and Walsh are flying it. If them years are wasted with poor coaching, it'll take years and years to get back to a final again.

jam83 (Galway) - Posts: 206 - 18/07/2023 14:16:32    2495415

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Galwaygaa.ie I see its down again !!!!!!!!!!!!

1951andwaiting (Galway) - Posts: 93 - 18/07/2023 23:28:41    2495522

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Damien Comer and Tomás O'Sé.

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GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 19/07/2023 02:15:38    2495528

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Opening Round of Club Fixtures Released:

Friday 28th of July -

G1: Moycullen V An Spideal (Pearse Stadium, 7:30pm)

G3: St Michaels V Dunmore (Tuam Stadium, 7:30pm)

Saturday 29th of July -

G1: Annaghdown V St James's (Kenny Park, 2:30pm)

G2: Oughterard V Caherlistrane (Kenny Park, 4:15pm)

G1: Milltown V Leitir Mor (Pearse Stadium, 3:45pm)

G2: Killannin V Barna (Pearse Stadium, 5:30pm)

G2: Salthill V Corofin (Tuam Stadium, 4:15pm)

G3: Claregalway V Mountbellew (Tuam Stadium, 6:00pm)

G3: Tuam Stars receiving the bye in the first round.

LetsPlayBall (Galway) - Posts: 64 - 19/07/2023 08:22:37    2495533

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First round of championship fixtures are out.

Friday 28th

Group 1: Maigh Cuilinn vs An Spideal (7.30pm Pearse Stadium)

Group 3: St. Michael's vs Dunmore MacHales (7.30pm Tuam Stadium)

Saturday 29th

Group 1: Annaghdown vs St. James (2.30pm Kenny Park)

Group 2: Oughterard vs Caherlistrane (4.15pm Kenny Park)

Group 1: Milltown vs Naomh Anna Leitir Moir (3.45pm Pearse Stadium)

Group 2: Killannin vs Bearna (5.30pm Pearse Stadium)

Group 2: Salthill/Knocknacarra vs Corofin (4.15pm Tuam Stadium)

Group 3: Claregalway vs Mountbellew/Moylough (6pm Tuam Stadium)

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 940 - 19/07/2023 08:34:46    2495534

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Time to start looking at the club championship. Really looking forward to it for a few reasons . Firstly its a great championship in itself with a number of genuine contenders. Whoever comes through will be be on the short list for club All Ireland.
Secondly it will be interesting to see who put their hands up for county selection. I know club and county is different but, for example, John Maher put his hand up with Salthill last year and brought that form to county level.
I was interested in the odds that were published. When I looked at these I expected to see I a bias between the groups , but strangely not . Based on the odds the expectation that the winner will come from a particular group is almost identical ( a slight leaning towards group B) . Of course there is a small element of self calibration in this as the odds increase slightly based on the toughness of a group but I think this effect is small.
What I did notice though is that the odds offered are particularly mean, and target an average gross profit of 35% , whereas most events target about 15%. ( or 20% at most)

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 999 - 19/07/2023 10:00:53    2495544

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