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Replying To Marooned:  "Galway minors very very poor against Derry. 0-4 is a dreadful return. Hard to believe they went unbeaten through the Connacht round robin. Wheels have really come off the last two games."
It was fairly obvious at the start of the year this was a relatively weak panel at minor level this year..

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 10/06/2023 18:07:33    2485322

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Replying To Yondu:  "That's a big blow, seemed injured against Mayo and only made things worse by playing?

Derry looked strong from watching them in the Ulster semi final and final but remains to be seen the strength of Ulster v Connacht football at this grade. Last year Connacht was the strongest province."
It looks like Ulster is a lot stronger than Connacht this year.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2056 - 10/06/2023 18:31:38    2485327

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Replying To Belclare:  "It was fairly obvious at the start of the year this was a relatively weak panel at minor level this year.."
Outside the quarter semi and final last year this sort of performance has been common enough under Glynn Mayo X2 last year & Leitrim last year and year before spring to mind

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1166 - 10/06/2023 19:03:01    2485337

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "It looks like Ulster is a lot stronger than Connacht this year."
The u17 grade can be fickle when it comes to performance and results. Last year a perfect example. That said it's all about player development. It's about feeding the senior team eventually.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11243 - 11/06/2023 09:03:49    2485429

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On another day, both results could have been the opposite. That age grade is very unpredictable. Usually the losing teams learn more from the loss, and come back stronger at the U20 age grade.

Mayo52 (Mayo) - Posts: 44 - 11/06/2023 09:44:45    2485433

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Replying To yew_tree:  "The u17 grade can be fickle when it comes to performance and results. Last year a perfect example. That said it's all about player development. It's about feeding the senior team eventually."
That's very true. The most important thing is these players are getting more games to develop. All provinces have some element of a round-robin now, so they have more opportunity to develop, improve and learn.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2056 - 11/06/2023 09:56:52    2485435

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Replying To jm25:  "Outside the quarter semi and final last year this sort of performance has been common enough under Glynn Mayo X2 last year & Leitrim last year and year before spring to mind"
That is unfair an incorrect, if you went to games you'd know that the Leitrim game was the opportunity to run the extended panel as we'd qualified for the Connacht final already. That was a very good Mayo team also. Now lets go to this years games, we've had a terrible run with injuries and these had major influences on results, we had Olan Kelly coming back from a heavy knock for the Connacht final, and had already lost Jack Heneghan to a shoulder injury, we then lost Sean Walsh to a knee injury and Stephen O'Grady could'nt start the game. With respect you cannot lose quality forwards and starting midfielders and then just replace them. As for the previous comment about a team being average, some lads would need to reflect before they post ridiculous comments about 16 and 17 year olds. Finally best wishes to the players from the squad that are doing state exams at the moment.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 727 - 11/06/2023 10:29:15    2485441

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I've watched all 4 games from yesterday now and Monaghan and Derry look a good bit ahead of Dublin and Kerry in my humble opinion. As to the idea that on another day Mayo and Galway could flip those results is flying in the face of the stark facts from yesterday. Last year Mayo and Galway were ahead of the pack but this time round Derry and Monaghan were superior in most aspects of the game and in most individual performances. Be very interested to see how Dublin and Kerry try to counter them.

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 651 - 11/06/2023 11:28:04    2485460

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Replying To GDL:  "That is unfair an incorrect, if you went to games you'd know that the Leitrim game was the opportunity to run the extended panel as we'd qualified for the Connacht final already. That was a very good Mayo team also. Now lets go to this years games, we've had a terrible run with injuries and these had major influences on results, we had Olan Kelly coming back from a heavy knock for the Connacht final, and had already lost Jack Heneghan to a shoulder injury, we then lost Sean Walsh to a knee injury and Stephen O'Grady could'nt start the game. With respect you cannot lose quality forwards and starting midfielders and then just replace them. As for the previous comment about a team being average, some lads would need to reflect before they post ridiculous comments about 16 and 17 year olds. Finally best wishes to the players from the squad that are doing state exams at the moment."
What is unfair and incorrect I made no mention of team selection all I'm saying is yesterday performance were reminiscent to a number of performances under same manger in recent years you can't dispute that.

Overall he's been a success delivering an all Ireland and hopefully we will see a few of last years team step up for u20s next year

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1166 - 11/06/2023 12:29:34    2485467

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Replying To ponga:  "I've watched all 4 games from yesterday now and Monaghan and Derry look a good bit ahead of Dublin and Kerry in my humble opinion. As to the idea that on another day Mayo and Galway could flip those results is flying in the face of the stark facts from yesterday. Last year Mayo and Galway were ahead of the pack but this time round Derry and Monaghan were superior in most aspects of the game and in most individual performances. Be very interested to see how Dublin and Kerry try to counter them."
I have to agree with you. Derry and Monaghan are awesome. When they played each other it went to OT and penalties. I hope they meet again in the Final now that Galway are out of it.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2139 - 11/06/2023 12:49:05    2485470

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Replying To jm25:  "What is unfair and incorrect I made no mention of team selection all I'm saying is yesterday performance were reminiscent to a number of performances under same manger in recent years you can't dispute that.

Overall he's been a success delivering an all Ireland and hopefully we will see a few of last years team step up for u20s next year"
Re-read your post you were critical of the manager without the facts.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 727 - 11/06/2023 13:41:07    2485483

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Replying To ponga:  "I've watched all 4 games from yesterday now and Monaghan and Derry look a good bit ahead of Dublin and Kerry in my humble opinion. As to the idea that on another day Mayo and Galway could flip those results is flying in the face of the stark facts from yesterday. Last year Mayo and Galway were ahead of the pack but this time round Derry and Monaghan were superior in most aspects of the game and in most individual performances. Be very interested to see how Dublin and Kerry try to counter them."
Derry and Monaghan was the two stand out teams on show yesterday and even more than Galway and Mayo was last year and I'd agree flipping the results on another day would be highly unlikely.

The big difference was on how physically imposing the two Ulster teams were, stacked with big, tall lads making the two games a physical mis-match in Carrick.

The same was seen in hogan cup this year. Summerhill a good team, hard won Connacht title and knocked out the Kerry champions in the semi final but then paired up against a physically imposing Ulster team who blew the defending All Ireland champions away in the semi final and Summerhill had no answer.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3769 - 11/06/2023 14:22:38    2485495

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Replying To GDL:  "That is unfair an incorrect, if you went to games you'd know that the Leitrim game was the opportunity to run the extended panel as we'd qualified for the Connacht final already. That was a very good Mayo team also. Now lets go to this years games, we've had a terrible run with injuries and these had major influences on results, we had Olan Kelly coming back from a heavy knock for the Connacht final, and had already lost Jack Heneghan to a shoulder injury, we then lost Sean Walsh to a knee injury and Stephen O'Grady could'nt start the game. With respect you cannot lose quality forwards and starting midfielders and then just replace them. As for the previous comment about a team being average, some lads would need to reflect before they post ridiculous comments about 16 and 17 year olds. Finally best wishes to the players from the squad that are doing state exams at the moment."
A whole lot of excuses there GDL, I'm sure other teams had injuries,

1951andwaiting (Galway) - Posts: 84 - 11/06/2023 16:43:43    2485536

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Replying To 1951andwaiting:  "A whole lot of excuses there GDL, I'm sure other teams had injuries,"
Would you grow up! looking to hammer 15, 16 & 17 year olds, but keep typing and fighting the keyboard battle, you might be winning!!!!!

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 727 - 11/06/2023 17:51:35    2485560

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Sam O Neill brought into Senior panel..

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 11/06/2023 20:12:33    2485616

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Replying To GDL:  "Would you grow up! looking to hammer 15, 16 & 17 year olds, but keep typing and fighting the keyboard battle, you might be winning!!!!!"
Where in my comment did i hammer 15,16, , 17 year olds, just said you were making a lot of excuses. the growing up part applies to yourself id say

1951andwaiting (Galway) - Posts: 84 - 11/06/2023 22:21:08    2485644

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Replying To 1951andwaiting:  "Where in my comment did i hammer 15,16, , 17 year olds, just said you were making a lot of excuses. the growing up part applies to yourself id say"
......keep typing, I'd say you're on a winning streak

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 727 - 12/06/2023 07:38:13    2485672

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Replying To Belclare:  "Sam O Neill brought into Senior panel.."
Any other of the 20's drafted in?

Sam stood out in terms of natural talent.

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 262 - 12/06/2023 10:10:42    2485730

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Derry and Monaghan was the two stand out teams on show yesterday and even more than Galway and Mayo was last year and I'd agree flipping the results on another day would be highly unlikely.

The big difference was on how physically imposing the two Ulster teams were, stacked with big, tall lads making the two games a physical mis-match in Carrick.

The same was seen in hogan cup this year. Summerhill a good team, hard won Connacht title and knocked out the Kerry champions in the semi final but then paired up against a physically imposing Ulster team who blew the defending All Ireland champions away in the semi final and Summerhill had no answer."
Yeah, the size and strength mismatch is telling. There are exceptions but as the old boxing and rugby adage goes "a good big'un always beats a good little'un". It can generally be applied to our games too. I've seen it time and again in juvenile football and hurling, and at adult grades too. Football and Hurling are such power games now that developing minor teams with lots of smaller, nippier players eventually backfires when met with massive, physical teams.
The likes of a Johnny McGrath is a rare exception.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 911 - 12/06/2023 10:14:16    2485731

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Still loads of tickets for Sunday.
You would wonder why they wanted it in Croke Park

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 372 - 12/06/2023 14:44:49    2485872

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