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Replying To tommy k:  "Yes I'm not happy about it and most Galway football fans are not happy with the team and management currently. As mentioned a few times here it seems the players are afraid to shoot for points etc. in case they get a telling off from PJ."
Most fans??? I think you may need to broaden your survey.

It is fair to say that the Ros game was muck but some of the comments up hear are complete over reactions be it to a win or a loss.
-Are we in the middle of a heavy training slog? are we timing our training program to an Inter county season format that has huge number of games?? I don't know but there are many potential reasons for the performance. But it could also be that we are muck and have regressed. I am not ruling it out.....I just don't think we should rush to judgement yet. After last season the Mgt team deserve the benefit of the doubt.

To most fair minded observers we have made huge progress over PJ's 3 years (most of it last year). We are now a team conditioned as good as any in the country. We have a defensive structure and apart from the first couple of league games this year a pretty decent attacking platform.

Are we perfect...... far from it IMO. We seem to have a lack of depth around scoring forwards. Our GK issue has never been solved.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1895 - 16/02/2023 09:09:25    2458460

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23 minutes gone in the AI final. Kerry's 6th point. Look at what Heaney does and what John Daly thinks of it. Tell me then he is a big game player and a leader in the team.

PierreBezuhov (UK) - Posts: 231 - 16/02/2023 09:18:10    2458462

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some of the comments on here after ros common game are laughable we will have no one left as every second player being retired on this forum

cavan.galway (Galway) - Posts: 212 - 16/02/2023 09:20:52    2458463

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "tommy, I don't think I have ever agreed with anything you have posted on here, but in this instance you are 100% correct."
Thanks Pierre - I always welcome comments from posters that agrees with me just once!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 16/02/2023 10:51:20    2458473

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "23 minutes gone in the AI final. Kerry's 6th point. Look at what Heaney does and what John Daly thinks of it. Tell me then he is a big game player and a leader in the team."
You could do that with every player in the country. Munster semi-final in 2020, David Clifford misses a relatively easy free on his good side. The game ends up going to extra-time and Kerry lose to a late sucker punch. It's straight knockout and they're out of the championship. Tell me are they the actions of a big game player?
Yes, they are as even the best players in the country made bad mistakes.
If you think a player isn't good enough, then add a bit of context to your argument. Performances over time etc. Picking one moment in a game is complete nonsense.
2018 Connacht quarter-final in Castlebar. A tight tense game going in to injury time and Heaney cuts in and belts a goal to the back of the net. The goal is the difference between the teams at the end.
2022 Connacht quarter-final in Castlebar, a must win game for Joyce given the 2 previous years. Possibly then end of the management team if we lose. Heaney steps up with a crucial goal and we scrape home by a point.
Are they the actions of a big game player?

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2226 - 16/02/2023 11:13:28    2458479

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "You could do that with every player in the country. Munster semi-final in 2020, David Clifford misses a relatively easy free on his good side. The game ends up going to extra-time and Kerry lose to a late sucker punch. It's straight knockout and they're out of the championship. Tell me are they the actions of a big game player?
Yes, they are as even the best players in the country made bad mistakes.
If you think a player isn't good enough, then add a bit of context to your argument. Performances over time etc. Picking one moment in a game is complete nonsense.
2018 Connacht quarter-final in Castlebar. A tight tense game going in to injury time and Heaney cuts in and belts a goal to the back of the net. The goal is the difference between the teams at the end.
2022 Connacht quarter-final in Castlebar, a must win game for Joyce given the 2 previous years. Possibly then end of the management team if we lose. Heaney steps up with a crucial goal and we scrape home by a point.
Are they the actions of a big game player?"
Big games? Connacht quarter finals? Maybe if you're from Leitrim or Sligo.

You have picked moments from games early in the summer to illustrate your point, but derided my highlighting of an incident in an important game, where he had already botched a goal chance. Even in the games you mention, he was relatively anonymous for most of them.

Heaney doesn't have the football to influence big games. He is a fine athlete and a willing runner, and it would not surprise me if he had the best aerobic capacity on the panel. Athleticism alone won't cut it at the level we want to operate at. I would prefer to see someone like Cathal Sweeney given a few starts in his role.

PierreBezuhov (UK) - Posts: 231 - 16/02/2023 11:34:00    2458485

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "23 minutes gone in the AI final. Kerry's 6th point. Look at what Heaney does and what John Daly thinks of it. Tell me then he is a big game player and a leader in the team."
Ah ffs - you pick out one incident in a game as proof of that? Stupid comment.

galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1291 - 16/02/2023 11:37:29    2458489

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "You could do that with every player in the country. Munster semi-final in 2020, David Clifford misses a relatively easy free on his good side. The game ends up going to extra-time and Kerry lose to a late sucker punch. It's straight knockout and they're out of the championship. Tell me are they the actions of a big game player?
Yes, they are as even the best players in the country made bad mistakes.
If you think a player isn't good enough, then add a bit of context to your argument. Performances over time etc. Picking one moment in a game is complete nonsense.
2018 Connacht quarter-final in Castlebar. A tight tense game going in to injury time and Heaney cuts in and belts a goal to the back of the net. The goal is the difference between the teams at the end.
2022 Connacht quarter-final in Castlebar, a must win game for Joyce given the 2 previous years. Possibly then end of the management team if we lose. Heaney steps up with a crucial goal and we scrape home by a point.
Are they the actions of a big game player?"
100% spot on

galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1291 - 16/02/2023 11:38:15    2458491

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Replying To galwayman2:  "Ah ffs - you pick out one incident in a game as proof of that? Stupid comment."
Should have scored a goal in the final also

Dermot_Desmond_96 (Galway) - Posts: 40 - 16/02/2023 11:59:58    2458495

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "Big games? Connacht quarter finals? Maybe if you're from Leitrim or Sligo.

You have picked moments from games early in the summer to illustrate your point, but derided my highlighting of an incident in an important game, where he had already botched a goal chance. Even in the games you mention, he was relatively anonymous for most of them.

Heaney doesn't have the football to influence big games. He is a fine athlete and a willing runner, and it would not surprise me if he had the best aerobic capacity on the panel. Athleticism alone won't cut it at the level we want to operate at. I would prefer to see someone like Cathal Sweeney given a few starts in his role."
I picked those to illustrate how a single moment can be used to make any argument and is therefore nonsense.
I'm not making a case as to whether he's good enough or not based on those single incidents. What I'm showing is, pointing to one thing in minute 23 of a match and saying it's proof someone isn't up to scratch is nonsense.
Heaney has had a number of years with Galway. There's enough there for you to make a more considered argument rather than pointing to once moment as absolute proof. He has had some very strong performances and also some poorer games. He plays a specific role which requires him to do an incredible amount of running and hard work. Judging him on scores alone doesn't cover everything he does, no more than Niall Scully wasn't measured on how much he scored for Dublin.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2226 - 16/02/2023 12:36:36    2458502

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Replying To Dermot_Desmond_96:  "Should have scored a goal in the final also"
And your point is?

galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1291 - 16/02/2023 12:56:06    2458507

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "Big games? Connacht quarter finals? Maybe if you're from Leitrim or Sligo.

You have picked moments from games early in the summer to illustrate your point, but derided my highlighting of an incident in an important game, where he had already botched a goal chance. Even in the games you mention, he was relatively anonymous for most of them.

Heaney doesn't have the football to influence big games. He is a fine athlete and a willing runner, and it would not surprise me if he had the best aerobic capacity on the panel. Athleticism alone won't cut it at the level we want to operate at. I would prefer to see someone like Cathal Sweeney given a few starts in his role."
Gary O'Donnel was quoted in an interview recently that he believed Heaney was one of the best footballers in Galway and sacrificed his game for the team. Heaney has proven with Galway & his club he's a fine footballer. Albeit he can do more in games at times but Galway have no replacement at the same level.

Stop criticising players & look forward

allstars23 (Galway) - Posts: 48 - 16/02/2023 13:47:33    2458522

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "Big games? Connacht quarter finals? Maybe if you're from Leitrim or Sligo.

You have picked moments from games early in the summer to illustrate your point, but derided my highlighting of an incident in an important game, where he had already botched a goal chance. Even in the games you mention, he was relatively anonymous for most of them.

Heaney doesn't have the football to influence big games. He is a fine athlete and a willing runner, and it would not surprise me if he had the best aerobic capacity on the panel. Athleticism alone won't cut it at the level we want to operate at. I would prefer to see someone like Cathal Sweeney given a few starts in his role."
Your comment is ridiculous. A game against Mayo in the Championship is a huge game and it is only a quirk of the draw that it is a Connacht Quarter Final. A Mayo team that have arguable been in the top 3 for the last 10 years.

Heaney is exactly a big game player. Always getting goal chances with intelligent movement. the fact that he got into the position in the AI Final illustrates the point that his skillset works against top opposition. And he didn't exactly botch the chance. Firstly it was not a gimmee and secondly it was an amazing block.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1895 - 16/02/2023 13:48:15    2458523

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "23 minutes gone in the AI final. Kerry's 6th point. Look at what Heaney does and what John Daly thinks of it. Tell me then he is a big game player and a leader in the team."
Are you a WUM, he didn't get enough pressure on the kicker for once in the entire game and John Daly rightly pointed it out, here is a better stat, 63min, Johnny Heaney taken off and we are level at 0-16 to 0-16, we don't score again in the next 12mins. Kerry get 4. It is my opinion we may not have conceeded that many if he was on. He is an outstanding player. The Kerry half backline destroyed us in those 12 minutes and Gavin White on the other side in particular. Ó Beaglaíoch had been taken off as Heaney had the better of that battle throughout the game.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 776 - 16/02/2023 14:08:38    2458529

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A great chance for a few 'bolters' to put their hand up now and really make a name for themselves at the top level. With injuries to a number of our headline acts, the next wave of lads have to step up and carry the responsibility, particularly in the forwards. It'd be great to see Tierney, Cooke, Heaney, maybe a redeployed Conroy, Burke, E Finnerty or others step up and land a few scores. They're in real test of character territory now. We're all frustrated but these current challenges will stand to them massively if they can emerge from this and nail a win against Tyrone. Its gonna be a dog fight at the bottom of Div 1. We're going to have to be up for it. Many of these lads have shown tons of promise but will need to reach new heights now and get that scoreboard motoring for us again. Up Galway!

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 983 - 16/02/2023 14:18:09    2458532

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The criticism of Heaney by a few posters here is bizarre. He's been one of Galways most consistent performers over the last 6 or 7 years and his role in the team seems to be underestimated.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3520 - 16/02/2023 14:35:20    2458535

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You have a fair few log ins, Johnny.

PierreBezuhov (UK) - Posts: 231 - 16/02/2023 15:21:07    2458547

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "The criticism of Heaney by a few posters here is bizarre. He's been one of Galways most consistent performers over the last 6 or 7 years and his role in the team seems to be underestimated."
Fully agree, one of the first few names on the teamsheet every day.

hashtag2017 (Galway) - Posts: 173 - 16/02/2023 15:56:53    2458555

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Replying To Kickitout:  "If most of current forwards have being in development squads since under 14 what were they developing definitely not scoring think about it 76 mins 5 forward never scored from play not backs forwards , against mayo 10 scores in 75 mins if u think that's a good standard fair enough,, everyone entitled to opinion,"
Kicitout what other players do you think should be on the panel? I'm not sure myself but would value your opinion

Nogoal (Galway) - Posts: 62 - 16/02/2023 16:06:31    2458557

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Replying To Mayonman:  "Your comment is ridiculous. A game against Mayo in the Championship is a huge game and it is only a quirk of the draw that it is a Connacht Quarter Final. A Mayo team that have arguable been in the top 3 for the last 10 years.

Heaney is exactly a big game player. Always getting goal chances with intelligent movement. the fact that he got into the position in the AI Final illustrates the point that his skillset works against top opposition. And he didn't exactly botch the chance. Firstly it was not a gimmee and secondly it was an amazing block."
Pure intelligence to know Aido,with his back to the play, isn't a natural defender and to anticipate and react in case there was a possible break when Damien Comer had ball on the endline. Won the ball, rounded the keeper and scored a vital goal in Castlebar. Quality player.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7708 - 17/02/2023 09:36:58    2458608

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