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I'd like to think that you are correct but I'm afraid I can't. There is no basis for such optimism. We are on a poor run of form over the last few years and a couple of half decent performances in the FBD is not enough to raise my hopes yet. Mayo were dabbling with a very experimental side . Roscommon ( who are no good even at full strength) were very much under strength in the final. I'm really afraid that we are going to struggle in Div 2 and I expect us to lose to Meath , who have improved a huge amount in recent years. If I am correct in saying that 2022 will be a poor year ( hope I'm wrong) then I really hope that at least the trajectory over the course of the year is good i.e. that our championship performance is better than our league. This in itself would be progress and allow us to build for the future. Football is strong in the county , but at county level, Rome wasn't built in a day. anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 999 - 28/01/2022 12:15:12 2396842 Link 2 |
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Galway....one of the favourites to lift Sam? Do you genuinely believe that? FallenStar (Galway) - Posts: 431 - 28/01/2022 12:17:47 2396843 Link 0 |
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How he is still getting county jobs is beyond me. All of the talented minor and u21 squads he managed and all bar the 2017 u21s flopped. galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1321 - 28/01/2022 12:40:27 2396850 Link 0 |
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Unless you're being sarcastic, the only place with expectations that big is inside your own head. I'll remind you to have a look at our 4 league games and 2 championship outings from last year. If that doesn't dampen your lofty expectations a bit, there's no cure. Saying all that, I'm looking forward to seeing how we develop this year and how some of the younger lads progress, as they hopefully get more game time. 7 competitive league games will do us a lot of good, as long as we can avoid serious injuries. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2413 - 28/01/2022 12:49:32 2396852 Link 1 |
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Yes & you would hope the players do as well, otherwise a waste of time.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 28/01/2022 15:50:08 2396868 Link 1 |
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Good man, winning Division 2 or aiming to get to an All Ireland Final is too lofty, no target other than seeing how things develop, no wonder Galway football has won nothing for decades. Fair play to Padraic Joyce, at least he had the guts to set out the stall from the start.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 28/01/2022 16:09:42 2396870 Link 1 |
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Your 100% correct. We must be ambitious and aim for the top. Fine margins between teams. No one would have picked Tyrone or Mayo last year. That said Meath will be tough. Very important to get a good start. Serious repercussions if the unthinkable happens and we go D3. Anything is possible with the young talent we have ....... disaster or great year. You never know with young lads. Gaillimh abù Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1928 - 28/01/2022 17:10:13 2396875 Link 0 |
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What we have here is one Galway supporter saying out loudly what most Galway supporters are thinking but won't admit it because they are playing the poor mouth. Galway have the right blend of youth and experience and Div 2 is the ideal opportunity and base to especially blend that youth into the starting team. Two promotion spots up for grabs and it will be underachievement if Galway don't gain promotion and that would leave serious question marks on Joyce as the right man to take this group forward. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3700 - 28/01/2022 17:12:25 2396877 Link 0 |
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Joyce is the manager. WanPintWin is not in the management team, as far as we can tell. Would that raise exclamation marks about your 'no wonder Galway football has won nothing for decades' & 'Fair play to PJ' observations? Or did I miss some inherent sarcasm perhaps.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4289 - 28/01/2022 17:19:04 2396879 Link 4 |
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There's being ambitious and realistic. Joyce was very ambitious at the beginning. If we were to judge him on those ambitions, he has been a complete disaster in the role. The reality is we are no further to an All-Ireland than we were in 2019 when he took over. The argument is we are much further away. One can be hopeful and optimistic. Its certainly a lot nicer than being despondent. But you are placing a huge amount of hope on a bunch of players, some of whom playing their first campaign in Maroon and White. You would expect someone in their third season would have a settled squad and clear direction in how they want to play. You cannot say we have that with Galway right now (compared to our neighbours for example). And you expect them to figure that out in seven league games before going into a provincial campaign, before the All-Ireland series in the summer? And spare me the Covid excuses. People were championing a facile win over 13 man Tyrone in Tuam two years ago. But we all know who won the All-Ireland last year and it wasn't Galway who challenged them either. The reason we have won sweet FA in decades is because we don't have accountability in Galway football. It's all romantic notions with lovely football instead of tangible results on the field. As I said three years ago, if Joyce and his best friends prove me wrong, then as a Galway man I'll be delighted. Because i take no joy in the results and performances since 2019. FallenStar (Galway) - Posts: 431 - 28/01/2022 17:41:32 2396882 Link 2 |
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I'd love to see Galway win and win and win but I seriously think they are barely in the top 10. I hope I'm wrong. Someone set me straight. Tyrone, Mayo, Dublin, Kerry, Donegal, Monaghan, possibly Roscommon, possibly Tipp, possibly Meath, Laois, Kildare, etc. are all probably ahead of Galway. Again I hope I'm wrong. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2587 - 28/01/2022 19:04:08 2396895 Link 2 |
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Not sure what Tipp, Laois, Ross, Meath have done to get elevated in your mind. Think a bit of perspective is needed on this forum. Some people think we are favourites for all Ireland and some think we are favourites for D3! Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1928 - 28/01/2022 20:12:53 2396906 Link 1 |
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It's been mentioned by someone else, but you might be overestimating the importance of my opinion as a factor in Galway's success. Whatever my expectations are have little bearing on what we have or haven't won in the last 20 years. If I had those sort of special powers, I'd be imagining us hammering Mayo, Dublin and Kerry every night. You said there are big expectations of us being among the favourites for an All-Ireland. The truth is there aren't. We have a lot of young talent and I'm very hopeful we'll see these players develop further this year. As usual, I plan be at the majority of our league games and all of our championship games and will be shouting the lads on. I would be hopeful of us getting out of Division 2, but I know that won't be easy. This should be a first full season in terms of fixtures for Joyce, so we'll know one way or the other where we are at the end of this year. There's a lot to be done for us to challenge the likes of Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone and Mayo. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2413 - 28/01/2022 20:25:44 2396907 Link 2 |
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Tipp are in Division 4. Not sure how they or Division 3 Laois are considered ahead of Galway. What have Laois done recently? Galway are far from perfect but they were probably unlucky to go down last year after ending up in a group with Dublin and Kerry and then blowing a play off in injury time against Monaghan that they should have won. If it was a normal league season I think they probably would have stayed up. Anyway, all immaterial now as that was last year. Time to concentrate on this year. Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2405 - 28/01/2022 20:32:23 2396909 Link 1 |
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Roscommon and tipp definitely not ahead of Galway think Meath , Monaghan , Armagh , Derry .The same as Galway in my opinion, Tyrone , Kerry , dubs mayo way ahead of Galway Donegal prob slightly ahead as regards match 2 morrow think we could struggle to win this one hope I'm wrong , the amount of injuries agsin this year is worrying , , Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1097 - 29/01/2022 08:37:25 2396915 Link 1 |
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we'll no exactly where we are after the mayo game in april.... league is league.,there will be up's and down's.. injuries are a worry but best to have them now then in march.. lets hope they all clear up.. i think glynn is the worst with the jaw break.. colin murray and billy mannion called in last two weeks..good additions.. expect too see both over the league.. looking forward to seeing darragh silke get a run of the bench..serious prospect.. dublin kerry are the two tops teams... if i was a betting man id back dublin right now.. mayo and tyrone are not that far ahead of anybody else.. gbay (Galway) - Posts: 275 - 29/01/2022 12:38:17 2396951 Link 1 |
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Pity Galway gaa cant stream the game rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 29/01/2022 14:04:15 2396965 Link 1 |
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Yes PJ is manager. Never intimated that wanpintwin was part of the m'ment team so not sure how you came to that conclusion. No sarcasm either. Point I was making is that it if it's accepted by all in Galway football that aiming to win Div. 2 & been favourites to do so & aiming to contest an All Ireland final is seen as to lofty & that it's just about blooding a few new players, then it is no surprise that nothing has been won for decades. Further to that I was pointing out that PJ bucked the trend & set out the goal as winning an All Ireland, nothing less.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 29/01/2022 15:24:20 2396981 Link 1 |
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Marvellous revision of history there. Joyce is the only manager in Galways history to set a goal of winning an All-Ireland.
FallenStar (Galway) - Posts: 431 - 29/01/2022 15:59:22 2396989 Link 2 |
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I agree, we should absolutely be aiming to win Division 2 and have every chance of doing so with the players we have. We were very unlucky to be relegated last year from Div 1. Aiming to contest the All Ireland final is a much longer shot and likely unrealistic but agree it should be the goal. Why not, we are not that far away from Mayo and hopefully Cian O Neill will sharpen us up defensively. It also looks like we have improved physically so hopefully we will have a good year.
Trucker1 (Galway) - Posts: 452 - 29/01/2022 16:31:41 2396996 Link 1 |