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Replying To galwayman2: "What is the point of anybody bringing Corofin into this? Their team that won 3 All Ireland's in a row are probably the best Gaelic football club team there has ever been. The records show they're the only team in history to do that. Stating that team in their pomp would have beaten Glen today is stating the obvious like! Totally irrelevant." He might have a point if the debate was about that past Corofin team however he's talking about the current Corofin team whom only reached one of the last three Galway finals and were well beaten in that final. Like one poster on here beforehand he seems to totally under rate Glen. Coming into this All-Ireland semi final it was clear they were top side that was difficult to beat and score against highlighted by the fact the defending All Ireland champions Kilcoo only managed 1-6 against them. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3518 - 09/01/2023 15:08:04 2451727 Link
Replying To Marooned: "TG4 pundits interviewed Dessie after the game and basically said to him why didn't Moycullen kick the ball more? Far too much slow lateral hand passing and running from them. It just allowed Glen time to funnel players back into defence and set up a wall of defenders in front of their goal. They got so many turnovers that way that led to scores on the counter attack. Think Dessie admitted in the end that they have to kick the ball more into the forwards. As they were very predictable in attack yesterday." Yes Dessie is basically saying the same thing I am saying and I even said the same thing when they were winning their games in Connacht. That style of handpassing without any kickpassing is completely predictable and easy to defend against especially by the Northern teams who invented the "blanket defence" about 20 years ago now. I still would contend that the Corofin team (even of today) would have the style of play and the players required to beat that Glen team yesterday. tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 09/01/2023 15:27:52 2451732 Link
Replying To 3rdmantackle: "Who? Moycullen?" Yes! TanCanRan (Galway) - Posts: 240 - 09/01/2023 15:28:31 2451733 Link
Replying To TanCanRan: "Dipping back into the transfer market once more I hear. Offaly inter-county player. People give out about Kilmaccud but this is another level." Who? Moycullen? 3rdmantackle (Galway) - Posts: 11 - 09/01/2023 15:40:51 2451735 Link
Replying To TanCanRan: "Yes!" That would certainly taint my view of them. It's not like they haven't players after winning Minor and being competitive in A for years. 3rdmantackle (Galway) - Posts: 11 - 09/01/2023 15:44:49 2451737 Link
Entitled to your opinion tommy k but I think you would be fairly alone in thinking Corofin in their current transition state would have beaten such a well organised Glen that would have handled any style of play thrown at them and Kilcumad have a task on their hands to beat them they'll especially need Shane Walsh in top form. Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 09/01/2023 15:53:16 2451740 Link
Replying To Yondu: "Entitled to your opinion tommy k but I think you would be fairly alone in thinking Corofin in their current transition state would have beaten such a well organised Glen that would have handled any style of play thrown at them and Kilcumad have a task on their hands to beat them they'll especially need Shane Walsh in top form." Everyone is entitled to their opinion Yondu and I have said that to other posters like GAA lover etc. who has the same opinion as you. That doesn't mean I am changing my opinion and I have been proven right more often than not in the past. tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 09/01/2023 17:01:52 2451757 Link
Replying To tommy k: "Yes Dessie is basically saying the same thing I am saying and I even said the same thing when they were winning their games in Connacht. That style of handpassing without any kickpassing is completely predictable and easy to defend against especially by the Northern teams who invented the "blanket defence" about 20 years ago now. I still would contend that the Corofin team (even of today) would have the style of play and the players required to beat that Glen team yesterday." I think we have to realise that the game continues to evolve. Glen and Kilmacud have appeared to master the art of pushing up on opposition kickouts , while still being set up well to defend when they lose the kick out. And in attack they both seem to have the correct blend of kick passing and running through defences. Moycullen are clearly the best team in Galway, but were completely dismantled. Its ludicrous to say that current corofin team would have fared any better. I actually would go as far as to say that corofin in their heyday would stuggle with either of the 2023 finalists. The game continues to evolve and fitness and skill levels continue to improve. anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 960 - 09/01/2023 20:06:28 2451783 Link
On a complete tangent... any word on the new jersey? They have surely missed a trick by not releasing it in the runup to Christmas - it would have sold hugely I imagine. galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1291 - 10/01/2023 10:15:51 2451809 Link
Replying To tommy k: "Everyone is entitled to their opinion Yondu and I have said that to other posters like GAA lover etc. who has the same opinion as you. That doesn't mean I am changing my opinion and I have been proven right more often than not in the past." I'm not sure that's true, son Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 10/01/2023 10:37:16 2451813 Link
interesting league campaign ahead, I thought Sweeney might take Molloy's spot but looks like Joyce doesn't trust him as a back and I can see Daniel O'Flaherty giving a chance to stake a claim who's still u20 again this year. I'd imagine McGrath will get his chance as Silke's replacement, unfortunately I'm not convinced we have anyone good enough at full back to replace Sean Kelly but only time will tell. Lets hope we hear some positive news on Cooke in the coming weeks and lets hope James McLaughlin can stay fit. TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 287 - 10/01/2023 10:43:21 2451815 Link
Replying To TheBishop: "interesting league campaign ahead, I thought Sweeney might take Molloy's spot but looks like Joyce doesn't trust him as a back and I can see Daniel O'Flaherty giving a chance to stake a claim who's still u20 again this year. I'd imagine McGrath will get his chance as Silke's replacement, unfortunately I'm not convinced we have anyone good enough at full back to replace Sean Kelly but only time will tell. Lets hope we hear some positive news on Cooke in the coming weeks and lets hope James McLaughlin can stay fit." Big thing is Daly at 6. Without over exaggerating it, we are a completely different team when he lines out. On that basis I'm not sure where else Sean Kelly could go, possibly midfield or 11 where he was very good against Mountbellew Moylough. I'd be happy enough with a new keeper and maybe find 2 or 3 to include subs. You could see McDaid at wing back, think his running game would be suited to that position. Loads of options potentially which is great. smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 443 - 10/01/2023 11:12:51 2451822 Link
Replying To anotheralias: "I think we have to realise that the game continues to evolve. Glen and Kilmacud have appeared to master the art of pushing up on opposition kickouts , while still being set up well to defend when they lose the kick out. And in attack they both seem to have the correct blend of kick passing and running through defences. Moycullen are clearly the best team in Galway, but were completely dismantled. Its ludicrous to say that current corofin team would have fared any better. I actually would go as far as to say that corofin in their heyday would stuggle with either of the 2023 finalists. The game continues to evolve and fitness and skill levels continue to improve." I'd agree with the gist of what you're saying. Talking about Corofin is neither here nor there. They weren't good enough to win Galway this year. As for how the Corofin team at their peak would have fared, we don't and won't know, so it's also irrelevant. However, I do think speaking about style of play is relevant. Moycullen are a ball carrying and hard running team. Glen clogged up the middle the negate their main strength. A more varied game of kicking ball in to the inside line might have forced them to loosen up a bit. That's not easy to implement on a whim though. Moycullen play the way they do because of the profile of players they have. I'd also disagree that they were completely dismantled. They were very competitive for most of the match, and could easily have snuck a draw or a win late on, but for a few bad wides. Moycullen won more ball around the middle and did quite well themselves from pressuring the Derry men coming out with the ball. Glen were the better team and fully deserved the win, but they had a nervy enough finish. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2224 - 10/01/2023 11:18:07 2451825 Link
Replying To Stool Pigeon: "I'm not sure that's true, son" Certainly not true in your case son! tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 10/01/2023 11:40:13 2451835 Link
Upon reflection of both Kerry v Galway and Glen v Moycullen , there is one thing that strikes me and I think its something that we need to address if we are to get back to winning AIs at club or county level . That is the kick out strategy or winning primary possession. At half time last Sunday the kick out stats were Glen 8/8, Moycullen 6/9. And even the 6/9 was bolstered by Moycullen aerial dominance ( particularly no 10). For Galway in the AI it was worse in the first half as Kerry were the team with the aerial dominance. The bottom line is that the top teams now are all pushing on kick outs , in first half , in particular ( the press tends to ease a bit in the second half). This should be our number 1 priority for 2023, and it needs to be tackled in a number of ways. 1. Goalkeeper who can kick quickly, accurately and disguise kick outs 2. Development of a defensive/midfield strategy that faciltates low risk/high percentage kick outs as much as possible ( be that short or long to unmarked players) 3. Midfielders and half back/forwards who can compete in the air for the increasing amount of times that we do have to go long. Maybe players at 10 and 12 like Moycullen do. anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 960 - 10/01/2023 12:09:24 2451838 Link
Replying To smallfrank: "Big thing is Daly at 6. Without over exaggerating it, we are a completely different team when he lines out. On that basis I'm not sure where else Sean Kelly could go, possibly midfield or 11 where he was very good against Mountbellew Moylough. I'd be happy enough with a new keeper and maybe find 2 or 3 to include subs. You could see McDaid at wing back, think his running game would be suited to that position. Loads of options potentially which is great." I think we probably need Kelly at number 3 is the only thing. I think the alternatives just aren't up to scratch unfortunately. Especially so since Liam Silke is unavailable. galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1291 - 10/01/2023 12:57:35 2451847 Link
Replying To tommy k: "Yes Dessie is basically saying the same thing I am saying and I even said the same thing when they were winning their games in Connacht. That style of handpassing without any kickpassing is completely predictable and easy to defend against especially by the Northern teams who invented the "blanket defence" about 20 years ago now. I still would contend that the Corofin team (even of today) would have the style of play and the players required to beat that Glen team yesterday." Moycullen we're very predictable before Sundays game. Nobody willing to take the responsibility of having a shot, opting instead for the safer option of another lateral handpass. Was there as a neutral supporting them. Sideline should have reacted sooner and I'd question their choice of replacements on a big wide open Croke Park. Disappointing as who knows if a club will ever get that far again. But for a moment of goalkeeping madness, they wouldn't have won this years Co Final. Well done on a wonderful 3 years for Moycullen, but I feel they missed a golden opportunity to contest an All Ireland Final. StopTheLights (Galway) - Posts: 387 - 10/01/2023 13:42:15 2451867 Link
Replying To galwayman2: "I think we probably need Kelly at number 3 is the only thing. I think the alternatives just aren't up to scratch unfortunately. Especially so since Liam Silke is unavailable." I think Sean Kelly will probably end up at 3 again unless Fitzgerald takes the chance he's been given there at the moment. I think they would love to release Kelly upfield but only if they are happy with who they have at 3. Unfortunately, Mulkerrin hasn't played football in a year now and still no sign of him togging out. Obviously that's a tricky injury to come back from. With the league starting in a few weeks anyone who is going to play in championship has to get some league football under their belt. Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2304 - 10/01/2023 13:50:03 2451871 Link
Replying To anotheralias: "I think we have to realise that the game continues to evolve. Glen and Kilmacud have appeared to master the art of pushing up on opposition kickouts , while still being set up well to defend when they lose the kick out. And in attack they both seem to have the correct blend of kick passing and running through defences. Moycullen are clearly the best team in Galway, but were completely dismantled. Its ludicrous to say that current corofin team would have fared any better. I actually would go as far as to say that corofin in their heyday would stuggle with either of the 2023 finalists. The game continues to evolve and fitness and skill levels continue to improve." Moycullen clearly the best team in Galway? We're they not well outplayed in this years Co Final by Salthill? We're they not gifted the Co title by a last minute moment of madness by the Salthill keeper? Fair play to them, and they are "one of the best teams in Galway", no doubt. "Clearly" the best team? I think next year will prove otherwise. Pity they didn't make it to the All Ireland Final though. Was there supporting them last Sunday. Great year for them. StopTheLights (Galway) - Posts: 387 - 10/01/2023 14:45:48 2451888 Link
Replying To Marooned: "I think Sean Kelly will probably end up at 3 again unless Fitzgerald takes the chance he's been given there at the moment. I think they would love to release Kelly upfield but only if they are happy with who they have at 3. Unfortunately, Mulkerrin hasn't played football in a year now and still no sign of him togging out. Obviously that's a tricky injury to come back from. With the league starting in a few weeks anyone who is going to play in championship has to get some league football under their belt." Was very disappointed by Sean Kelly's performance the last day. It was his least productive outing for a long time. Also disappointed in his brother Paul who is usually a very consistent performer. The Glen backs played well but the Kellys were well below par for whatever reason. Did they have the flu like a lot of people have these days? tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 10/01/2023 15:38:35 2451906 Link