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Shhtop talking s****. You pick the best performers end of story. Good young lads will automatically claim their spots. Management are brave enough. It's a mug's game to keep picking young lads who aren't performing. Keep picking lads who are performing is the way to go. KK was the hardest game on the schedule. Galway 2025 have 4 games left on the Leinster rota, and all of them are easier games on paper than the KK match. That doesn't mean that Galway will win any of the four, based on current form. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4076 - 20/04/2025 20:19:17 2603208 Link 0 |
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If you pick the best performers for now, and don't develop anyone else, who do you pick when those best performers retire/get injured etc? That's what we have been dealing with post Davy. Even during Davys time tbh, he never developed a current panel never mind future players. In extra time against Kilkenny in the 21 semi final he brought back on players who weren't able to walk let alone run. Unsurprisingly we lost, despite being 3 points up after the 1st minute of it, and a man up for the 1st 10 minutes of it.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15418 - 20/04/2025 20:52:02 2603221 Link 1 |
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Gavin Lee is a great prospect and one day will be a Sean Silke or Tony Keady. However you have to learn to read the game from a less pivotal position. He looked lost and got cleaned out with poor positioning at times. Maybe it's the way he was told play. If you look at Mark Fitzgerald he learned from playing corner ,half back and even fullback. Once Tadgh goes he will be one of the most dominating centre backs in the game. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3016 - 20/04/2025 20:54:27 2603222 Link 0 |
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Tough start for Micheàl Donoghue. He must be disappointed with the amount of real quality young players that he has to choose from. Very few have shown they are of the required standard to beat the top teams. As a result he's ended up putting his faith in players he knows better despite the fact they are not performing to the required standard either - he is between a rock and a hard place. The conveyor belt of outstanding players has well and truly dried up - it doesn't matter what manager you have in place if you can't pick some of the top players in the country. Talent development at underage has to be the focus in Galway and that can happen without winning underage all irelands. There are some positives with the existing minor and u20 teams. That's where we are at really. We can forget about senior titles for the next few years. galway2015 (Galway) - Posts: 65 - 20/04/2025 22:27:53 2603248 Link 1 |
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I love the way some posters think that going players, that have won numerous under all Ireland's should just be able to switch it on at senior level instantaneously. Lads need championship games to get to speed. They're not been given that opportunity. BigBàsMan (Galway) - Posts: 115 - 21/04/2025 07:05:26 2603281 Link 0 |
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Back to Conor Cooney, David Burke, Sean Linnane and Daithi Burke and forget about the so called rebuild is the next move I guess? LoughChamps24 (Galway) - Posts: 11 - 21/04/2025 11:55:25 2603331 Link 0 |
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Been watching players come and go for a good few decades now, and I must say it usually does happen pretty instantaneously, if you're talking about the emergence of really good senior players. You get the odd few like GMac and Harte that take awhile extra to settle before hitting serious heights, but most quality seniors will show green shoots straight away upon introduction imo.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4076 - 21/04/2025 12:01:02 2603333 Link 0 |
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'Back to Daithi Burke', are you having a laugh? This notion that stalwarts have to hand over their shirts to, let's be honest, what's looking like quite a feeble set of current newbie options, is just risible.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4076 - 21/04/2025 12:11:45 2603337 Link 0 |
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'numerous under all Ireland's' you say, but notably nothing at under20/under21 level, and barely a credible performance in that grade in recent seasons, barring 1or2 exceptions maybe.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4076 - 21/04/2025 12:18:02 2603339 Link 0 |
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Absolutely. It was a big enough jump from u21, it's a canyon now from u20.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15418 - 21/04/2025 12:39:25 2603353 Link 0 |
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Name 30 u20s who showed these green shoots straight away from all 11 Liam McCarthy counties over the years since u21 went back to u20 . That's less than 3 per county over a 5 year period. I think you will struggle. I know we have 5 lads u23 starting now, and all are doing OK now, but none of them looked anything other than poor and light when they made their 1st few starts. They are all still light by Senior standards. Cian Kenny is starting to look good for the cats, but looked small and lost when he started. Even Screeney has looked light and pretty ineffective so far at adult, and he is a generational talent. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15418 - 21/04/2025 12:45:39 2603354 Link 0 |
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Name 30 u20s who showed these green shoots straight away from all 11 Liam McCarthy counties over the years since u21 went back to u20 . That's less than 3 per county over a 5 year period. I think you will struggle. I know we have 5 lads u23 starting now, and all are doing OK now, but none of them looked anything other than poor and light when they made their 1st few starts. They are all still light by Senior standards. Cian Kenny is starting to look good for the cats, but looked small and lost when he started. Even Screeney has looked light and pretty ineffective so far at adult intercounty, and he is a generational talent. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15418 - 21/04/2025 12:45:58 2603355 Link 0 |
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Oh I agree don't get me wrong but the notion is put out there this is a rebuild and he is ushering these guys out . He took off all the young lads on Saturday. What happens when these guys due to age go in a year or so. Sean Linnane is not in this list with the Turloughmore link. Could we in bigger trouble than we think? Galway will beat Offaly easily or we may forget about it all together. LoughChamps24 (Galway) - Posts: 11 - 21/04/2025 14:15:58 2603379 Link 0 |
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Gearoid McInerney was never a good 6 imo. I can never remember him catching a ball, driving up the pitch and throwing it over or even distributing it into the full forward line effectively. He was ok under a high ball and hand passed it off immediately. The game has changed in the last 5 years exponentially. Not like 10 years ago. Young players need to be given championship game time to find their feet like Darragh McCarthy for tipp yesterday u20 player. We cannot keep relying on c cooney Flynn etc. we ain't gonna win any AI anyways, so let the new lads out and do their best. BigBàsMan (Galway) - Posts: 115 - 21/04/2025 15:00:40 2603396 Link 1 |
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He was an excellent no6 imo. If he didn't catch, no one else in his area code caught either, or ever ran up his channel with much success, unlike the Silkes and Keadys of this world in '81 '86 '90. Some lads are addicted to the 'hurl in a phonebox' type of no6. I prefer a no6 who's the size of 3 phoneboxs, but hugely athletic, relatively fast for a big unit, good man marker, and good defender. McInerney ticked all of those boxes. Iyo he was never a good no6, but he was still an all-star allireland winning no6.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4076 - 21/04/2025 15:30:59 2603399 Link 0 |
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No point getting obsessed with tags like rebuild. Some 'observers' seem to be so obsessed and titillated with this 'Galway rebuild' that they'd rather see Galway playing Christy Ring cup with a bunch of under16s, than see Conor Cooney or Flynn in a forward line. The rebuild will happen, but let's just let it happen, without obsessing too much about the beginning middle or end of that project.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4076 - 21/04/2025 15:46:35 2603405 Link 0 |
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Unfortunately I agree
Galway4ever (Galway) - Posts: 221 - 21/04/2025 16:34:36 2603424 Link 0 |
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Antrim selector on the Sunday game last night saying Dublin are definitely the 2nd best team in leinster after kk, I think that an insult to ye. Your still everyone favourite to reach the leinster final
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1102 - 21/04/2025 16:43:52 2603427 Link 0 |
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I have to disagree with your first sentence. McInerney was outstanding in 2017 and deservedly won an all-star. He was dominant at centre-back and was a key factor in Galway winning the all-Ireland that year. He was also playing well in 2018 until he got injured in the drawn semi-final against Clare and missed the replay. Since then he has never recovered his 2017 form and in recent years has looked a bit off the pace.
Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 1032 - 21/04/2025 17:14:32 2603441 Link 1 |