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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Well said, Kinvara and I totally agree. Galway are behind Limerick as is every team right now (it won't last forever), are a match for Kilkenny, and are probably neck and neck also with Clare. They showed that they're a good bit ahead of Tipp, and with that what other teams that are left.

But like every team they have to keep working harder on improving themselves, which is why I would not go getting rid of Henry now, as many loud vessels on here want. Lim him and his management and the players to get on with it. Switching managers midstream is rarely a good idea and only unsettles players."
Jacksonville Jags need to hold on to Doug Peterson too. He's a keeper MrFlorida!!

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4085 - 24/07/2023 13:01:02    2496516

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "And that accurate assessment of yours, bizarrely equated to a 5-1 KK-Galway inclusion on the SG 'Team of the Year'. What we're effectively being asked to swallow here, is that Mannion's 'flykickgate' and Buckley's resultant goal, that one singular farcical moment, cost Galway anything up to 4 all-stars and simultaneously won KK 4 all-stars. Very very silly stuff. Either Galway need more representation on that team, or TJ and Butler will have to be 'dropped'. 3-1 still isn't an accurate reflection of KK-Galway standards 2023, but 5-1 is an outrageous farce altogether."
Ah Pope thought you were around long enough to know the All stars are a joke

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15471 - 24/07/2023 13:10:14    2496518

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Jacksonville Jags need to hold on to Doug Peterson too. He's a keeper MrFlorida!!"
Hi Pope, leave the professional stuff to us Americans, and stick to your pucking the ball off the gable-end wall!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2194 - 24/07/2023 13:41:53    2496533

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ah Pope thought you were around long enough to know the All stars are a joke"
Would agree with the pope on that. KK, Galway and Clare are basically at the same level and yet KK get 5 on TSG team of the year to Galway's 1. I think Cathal Mannion may feel hard done by as he had a good year even though he wasn't involved in all of the games and Daithi Burke was also very solid in general throughout all the games.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 24/07/2023 14:02:37    2496546

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Hi Pope, leave the professional stuff to us Americans, and stick to your pucking the ball off the gable-end wall!"
You're a bit late pining for the old haggard now FY. Can you even wear your old cowboy suit in Florida?

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4085 - 24/07/2023 14:04:30    2496548

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "You're a bit late pining for the old haggard now FY. Can you even wear your old cowboy suit in Florida?"
Alligator skin man bag perhaps?!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15471 - 24/07/2023 14:42:31    2496564

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As usual I come on here for a look to see what is the topic of conversation or debate and i have to smile to myself. Here are the Galway supporters whinging over C. Whelan being the only Galway player named on the Sunday game TOTY. He is the only player that was good enough this year to feature "just about". In reality you could just name Limerick players in all positions, they are that far ahead of everyone. Maybe they should take next year off and then there would be a great All Ireland series. Limerick 5 in a row here they come. No one to stop them.

Armchairreporter (Galway) - Posts: 100 - 24/07/2023 15:50:22    2496585

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "As usual I come on here for a look to see what is the topic of conversation or debate and i have to smile to myself. Here are the Galway supporters whinging over C. Whelan being the only Galway player named on the Sunday game TOTY. He is the only player that was good enough this year to feature "just about". In reality you could just name Limerick players in all positions, they are that far ahead of everyone. Maybe they should take next year off and then there would be a great All Ireland series. Limerick 5 in a row here they come. No one to stop them."
There's no one whinging about Galway getting no all-star. KK getting 5 relative to Galway getting 1 was the issue, which you've ignored, so that you could 'smile to yourself', as if you know anything the rest of us don't know.

For the record, I would also be in favour of Limerick getting all 15 all stars. You couldn't argue with that. Shure picking fellas from other counties is only spoiling the system, and contaminating the 'reference points'.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4085 - 24/07/2023 18:53:13    2496651

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "I played schools myself in mid to late 1980s, and the amount of excellent hurlers from Meelick Eyrecourt came to school where I went in Offaly, these lads were making Offaly Vocational schools team with the likes of John Troy and Hubert Rigney and more future Offaly stars, yet once these Meelick Eyrecourt lads went back to their clubs that was it, the majority never got a look in at minor level which amazed us in Offaly....Liam Hogan and mabye Damien Howe were two that got decent stints...Noel Larkin did hurl with Galway seniors abit...Galway had oodles of talent elsewhere as we knew, but it was thought that the Meelick Eyrecourt lads were just outside the hurling strongholds to be considered...some massive talent never seen minor or underage with Galway despite sucess with Offalyy schools/county etc..."
Excuse me........7 Eyrecourt lads were on the Galway Junior Team in 1997. Eyrecourt were Co Intermediate Champions that year and the Galway Junior Team was made from non Senior Clubs.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2548 - 24/07/2023 18:58:37    2496653

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "I played schools myself in mid to late 1980s, and the amount of excellent hurlers from Meelick Eyrecourt came to school where I went in Offaly, these lads were making Offaly Vocational schools team with the likes of John Troy and Hubert Rigney and more future Offaly stars, yet once these Meelick Eyrecourt lads went back to their clubs that was it, the majority never got a look in at minor level which amazed us in Offaly....Liam Hogan and mabye Damien Howe were two that got decent stints...Noel Larkin did hurl with Galway seniors abit...Galway had oodles of talent elsewhere as we knew, but it was thought that the Meelick Eyrecourt lads were just outside the hurling strongholds to be considered...some massive talent never seen minor or underage with Galway despite sucess with Offalyy schools/county etc..."
Shure if they were only going to let ya down the next day, weren't ya behher awf noh selectin dem.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4085 - 24/07/2023 19:09:45    2496656

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "I played schools myself in mid to late 1980s, and the amount of excellent hurlers from Meelick Eyrecourt came to school where I went in Offaly, these lads were making Offaly Vocational schools team with the likes of John Troy and Hubert Rigney and more future Offaly stars, yet once these Meelick Eyrecourt lads went back to their clubs that was it, the majority never got a look in at minor level which amazed us in Offaly....Liam Hogan and mabye Damien Howe were two that got decent stints...Noel Larkin did hurl with Galway seniors abit...Galway had oodles of talent elsewhere as we knew, but it was thought that the Meelick Eyrecourt lads were just outside the hurling strongholds to be considered...some massive talent never seen minor or underage with Galway despite sucess with Offalyy schools/county etc..."
The problem is that Galway had too much success too early and too often. It probably would have served Galway better if they had an Under 20 All Ireland win recently, take that team en masse and built around them. When there is this continuous U17/8 success and no path to senior progress something is broken in the process. Offaly, Clare, Kilkenny and even Limericks AI success was backboned by and single underage success that they brought to fruition at senior level. Will this Cork U20 team be the next Limerick, or Clare U18s make the jump. Offaly had an excellent (and unfortunate) minor team last year, I would love to see that team come through and compete in years to come. Galway are a rebuild, lots of miles on the clock but hard to see where the players are going to come from.

BostonGuy (Galway) - Posts: 160 - 25/07/2023 00:10:13    2496687

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "As usual I come on here for a look to see what is the topic of conversation or debate and i have to smile to myself. Here are the Galway supporters whinging over C. Whelan being the only Galway player named on the Sunday game TOTY. He is the only player that was good enough this year to feature "just about". In reality you could just name Limerick players in all positions, they are that far ahead of everyone. Maybe they should take next year off and then there would be a great All Ireland series. Limerick 5 in a row here they come. No one to stop them."
I have no issue with the picks. Yes CONOR WHELEN deserved to be picked but after that it's debatable….Limerick deserved the spoils….

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2484 - 25/07/2023 00:28:15    2496689

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Replying To tommy k:  "Would agree with the pope on that. KK, Galway and Clare are basically at the same level and yet KK get 5 on TSG team of the year to Galway's 1. I think Cathal Mannion may feel hard done by as he had a good year even though he wasn't involved in all of the games and Daithi Burke was also very solid in general throughout all the games."
Cathal Mannion wasn't anywhere near an Allstar tbf, and neither was Dáithi Burke.

If we had managed to get to the final we'd probably have had 5 players too, so it's all the one, really.

Kilkenny got to the final and have beaten Galway in the last two LF and Clare in the last two AISF so there's a good case to say they are on a higher level than both Galway and Clare when it counts, at this point.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 25/07/2023 06:46:45    2496695

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Replying To Kinvara:  "A few in this thread who questioned the Galway players commitment, Henry's ability to do his job etc should be eating some crow this morning

Galway have a good team and good management with a group of tight knit and committed hurlers.

They have the misfortune of playing in the same era as the greatest team, backroom team and sponsor to ever live. It is really a perfect storm, but it won't go on forever

Until then, how about appreciate the commitment and talent of our hurlers"
I'm not sure who questioned the player's commitment, or talent, but how would sunday's game have any reflection on Shefflin's 'ability to do his job'?

Shefflin hasn't become a better manager on the back of Sunday.

That's not to say he can't become a very good or even a great one but he'll have to manage that through his own accomplishments.

I'm curious to see if he is (a) offered an extension and (b) accepts it if he is, because there's little point in him 'seeing out his term'

I imagine if offered a two-year extension he'd be minded to take it, Lyng looks comfortable in Kilkenny and where else would he go? Waterford are certainly no more likely to make an impact next year than we are, so where else is there to go?

If he is offered an extension but doesn't take it, it's time to shake hands and part company. If not, he'll be a lame duck next year and performances will be impacted accordingly, it'll just be a waste of everyone's time.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 25/07/2023 06:54:45    2496696

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Replying To clare_sparrow:  "its about time Galway remove the chip shop from the front of their jerseys too. So tacky. The joke has gone on far too long. it feeds into the narrative of not having the mentality to do it when (forgive me) the chips are down. Prancing around with it on the front of what is supposed to be worn with pride. Litterly anything else would be better."
Ah don't be so stupid to believe that something on the front of a jersey is a reason why a team is not winning. I've never heard such utter rubbish.
Limerick are simply too good for everyone at present and ARE the best team of all time. Their sheer power and physicality would blow away any of the great teams of the past such as Kilkenny's 4 in a row team in the 00's.
Galway like other posters have said are just too inconsistent and can never be relied upon to put a string of results together.
While is was fantastic I believe we were very fortunate to win the All Ireland in 2017 as I firmly believe the only reason we won it is because it was only Waterford in the final. Can anyone honestly say we would have beaten a Kilkenny or Tipp in a final - I don't think so. I know people will say we beat Tipp in the semi but a final is a different story altogether. Would have been a shame if Joe never got to win one so we'll take it but can't see another one coming anytime soon.

John Doe (Galway) - Posts: 242 - 25/07/2023 07:13:45    2496697

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "And that accurate assessment of yours, bizarrely equated to a 5-1 KK-Galway inclusion on the SG 'Team of the Year'. What we're effectively being asked to swallow here, is that Mannion's 'flykickgate' and Buckley's resultant goal, that one singular farcical moment, cost Galway anything up to 4 all-stars and simultaneously won KK 4 all-stars. Very very silly stuff. Either Galway need more representation on that team, or TJ and Butler will have to be 'dropped'. 3-1 still isn't an accurate reflection of KK-Galway standards 2023, but 5-1 is an outrageous farce altogether."
Sounds like whinging to me. Galway need to stop whinging about the Sunday game TOTY and All Star teams. Focus on how to win more All Irelands. 87, 88 and then 17, after looking at them this year it could be 37 before they win another one.

Armchairreporter (Galway) - Posts: 100 - 25/07/2023 10:18:38    2496725

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Replying To John Doe:  "Ah don't be so stupid to believe that something on the front of a jersey is a reason why a team is not winning. I've never heard such utter rubbish.
Limerick are simply too good for everyone at present and ARE the best team of all time. Their sheer power and physicality would blow away any of the great teams of the past such as Kilkenny's 4 in a row team in the 00's.
Galway like other posters have said are just too inconsistent and can never be relied upon to put a string of results together.
While is was fantastic I believe we were very fortunate to win the All Ireland in 2017 as I firmly believe the only reason we won it is because it was only Waterford in the final. Can anyone honestly say we would have beaten a Kilkenny or Tipp in a final - I don't think so. I know people will say we beat Tipp in the semi but a final is a different story altogether. Would have been a shame if Joe never got to win one so we'll take it but can't see another one coming anytime soon."
You'd have to tell us who's reffing it anyway. If Owens refs the 2017 final, we likely wouldn't win it.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4085 - 25/07/2023 10:30:51    2496728

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "Sounds like whinging to me. Galway need to stop whinging about the Sunday game TOTY and All Star teams. Focus on how to win more All Irelands. 87, 88 and then 17, after looking at them this year it could be 37 before they win another one."
You must be Jackie Tyrrell or Cody? A couple of comments on here doesn't mean 'Galway' is whinging about anything. Can you tell us how TJ Reid merits selection on the 2023 SG team of the year, and how Mick Butler gets selected ahead of Nash or Casey? KK lost that final spell last Sunday by 0-21 to 0-6. How that equates to FIVE 'all-star' selections is beyond daft.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4085 - 25/07/2023 10:38:44    2496731

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "You must be Jackie Tyrrell or Cody? A couple of comments on here doesn't mean 'Galway' is whinging about anything. Can you tell us how TJ Reid merits selection on the 2023 SG team of the year, and how Mick Butler gets selected ahead of Nash or Casey? KK lost that final spell last Sunday by 0-21 to 0-6. How that equates to FIVE 'all-star' selections is beyond daft."
Just to be clear, your the one that's whinging not Galway. As I said in my post just name the Limerick team. They deserve it. Best players on show this year and for the last number of years. In reality they should have 6 in a row only for the blip in the semi final in 19. Tipp wouldn't of beaten them in a final that year.

Armchairreporter (Galway) - Posts: 100 - 25/07/2023 12:09:17    2496765

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "Just to be clear, your the one that's whinging not Galway. As I said in my post just name the Limerick team. They deserve it. Best players on show this year and for the last number of years. In reality they should have 6 in a row only for the blip in the semi final in 19. Tipp wouldn't of beaten them in a final that year."
A good job you clarified that, because you initially stated categorically that 'the Galway supporters' were whinging. Thanks for the clarification.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4085 - 25/07/2023 13:51:16    2496791

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