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I think there was a very valid point made that Limerick are just a long way ahead of everything else at the minute.
I'm not saying that Kilkenny couldnt catch them out but its unlikely, and even if they did , it wouldnt change my opinion that Limerick are the stand our team of the last 5 or 6 years...by a considerable margin.
Limerick are lucky to have such a brilliant team , but it has also coincided with Kilkenny, Tipperary , Galway etc.. all slipping back to mediocrity.
Its a bit like the tennis. Nobody will convince me that Djokovic is getting any better at 36 years years of age , but he is completely dominating now. But when Djokovic was in his own prime , he was not nearly as successful as he has been since the decline of Federer and Nadal.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 960 - 14/07/2023 16:02:51    2494390

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Replying To daveboy:  "Easy on the "useless" there lad"
why?

KnockaineyAbú (Limerick) - Posts: 96 - 14/07/2023 16:20:18    2494398

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No outside manager has won the AI since 1998. Galway need a Galway man. It doesn't have to be an obvious choice but one the players would play for.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 14/07/2023 16:42:26    2494405

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Replying To katser:  "Yes I definitely agree Henry should finish out his term....and when his contract is finished then they can decide what's next."
Don't come back this time next year lamenting a lost/wasted year then.

Unless we believe that the current panel is good enough to get us where we want to be, and the current management are in the best position to get the maximum out of them, of course,

I don't believe both of those things are simultaneously true ;I doubt many do) and they would have to be to justify 'letting him see out his term and then decide'.

Otherwise what's the point?

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 14/07/2023 19:37:14    2494423

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Replying To tommy k:  "Exactly baire that is what I stated in my earlier post. No "outside" manager has even reached the AI final with Galway never mind winning it as they are not that emotionally or psychologically invested in it and are probably there just for the "expenses" so to speak. In fairness Henry at least shows some passion on the sideline (unlike some of his predecessors) but as you say he has a bad habit of distancing himself from any responsibility when Galway lose calling the players "they" e.g. "they seemed to lose energy" etc. even though he is the manager who should be fully accountable. Very well spotted!"
I wonder was John O'Mahony 'only there for the expenses' too?

Or does the fact he won All Irelands with Galway make this somehow irrelevant?

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 14/07/2023 19:45:39    2494425

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "I wonder was John O'Mahony 'only there for the expenses' too?

Or does the fact he won All Irelands with Galway make this somehow irrelevant?"
There are exceptions to every rule and John O'Mahony was certainly one in relation to what he achieved with both Galway and Leitrim.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4471 - 15/07/2023 11:23:23    2494455

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "I wonder was John O'Mahony 'only there for the expenses' too?

Or does the fact he won All Irelands with Galway make this somehow irrelevant?"
We are talking about hurling here and not football if you hadn't noticed!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 15/07/2023 12:04:24    2494464

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Replying To daveboy:  "No outside manager has won the AI since 1998. Galway need a Galway man. It doesn't have to be an obvious choice but one the players would play for."
Yes and that was a Galway man Michael Bond who ironically never managed Galway!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 15/07/2023 12:35:15    2494475

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "I wonder was John O'Mahony 'only there for the expenses' too?

Or does the fact he won All Irelands with Galway make this somehow irrelevant?"
I was responding to the idea of D Fitz becoming the next Galway manager. Our experience of Munster managers in charge of the Galway hurlers has left a bad taste - I don't recall any of them doing much for the advancement of hurling in the county.
John O' Mahony is a proud Mayo man and a proud CONNACHT man. I think his motivation to be successful with both Leitrim and Galway was due to the fact that the Mayo county board shafted him and he wanted to proof them wrong plus the fact that Galway had excellent footballers at the time.
Re Bond as manager of Offaly, he himself said that he had very little managing to do, hurlers of great quality were already there and they had been successful as a team. They had been insulted by a certain Tipp man and had their own point to proove. Bond told them, in his words to, "go out and express" themselves. The game has become more 'sophisticated' or should I say 'professional' since then and All Ireland success has been dominated by one or two counties.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 15/07/2023 15:51:32    2494514

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In fairness it not really matter who manger is Galway Just don't have quality at all in fairness Galway not really a serious inter county hurling team 1 all Ireland in 35 years 5 in there history and 4 of them was going straight through to semi final ,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 968 - 15/07/2023 16:09:18    2494518

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Replying To Kickitout:  "In fairness it not really matter who manger is Galway Just don't have quality at all in fairness Galway not really a serious inter county hurling team 1 all Ireland in 35 years 5 in there history and 4 of them was going straight through to semi final ,,"
Be interested in seeing what response this gets!

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1103 - 15/07/2023 16:40:37    2494523

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Replying To tommy k:  "We are talking about hurling here and not football if you hadn't noticed!"
It's the same difference, tommy, me oul' segotia.

He was an outside manager who came to Galway and achieved great success.

If one doesn't achieve 'success' as an outside manager, is it your contention that they are only there for the expenses? Whereas if they are 'successful' this doesn't apply?

Just trying to clarify your stance, is all. It seems a bit confusing.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 15/07/2023 18:35:50    2494561

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Replying To Kickitout:  "In fairness it not really matter who manger is Galway Just don't have quality at all in fairness Galway not really a serious inter county hurling team 1 all Ireland in 35 years 5 in there history and 4 of them was going straight through to semi final ,,"
galway need a class coach like kinnerk plenty of talent in galway.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1130 - 15/07/2023 19:30:29    2494590

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Replying To Kickitout:  "In fairness it not really matter who manger is Galway Just don't have quality at all in fairness Galway not really a serious inter county hurling team 1 all Ireland in 35 years 5 in there history and 4 of them was going straight through to semi final ,,"
What a positive and uplifting post from one of our own! Maybe you should hold back a bit on the ould praise!

A few figures wouldn't go astray:
35 years minus 2022 = 1987
Since 1987 Galway have won 3 All Irelands in hurling. Apart from the top 4 no other county has won more than 3 All Irelands in that period. Are you saying that Clare, Waterford, Wexford or Dublin are not serious inter county teams? Dare I mention Offaly?
Going by your logic there's only one serious inter county hurling team in Leinster and only 3 serious inter county teams in Munster. The rest are not to be taken seriously!
Galway have also won 2 football AIs since 1987. Apart from Cork no other dual county has won an AI in both codes in that same period.
Galway have been in the top 4 in the last 2 years, the top 4 in 2016, the top team in 2017, the top 2 in 2018, 2015 and 2012.
Cheer up, we're not the best but we're much better than what you're making out!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 15/07/2023 20:31:30    2494623

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Replying To tommy k:  "Exactly baire that is what I stated in my earlier post. No "outside" manager has even reached the AI final with Galway never mind winning it as they are not that emotionally or psychologically invested in it and are probably there just for the "expenses" so to speak. In fairness Henry at least shows some passion on the sideline (unlike some of his predecessors) but as you say he has a bad habit of distancing himself from any responsibility when Galway lose calling the players "they" e.g. "they seemed to lose energy" etc. even though he is the manager who should be fully accountable. Very well spotted!"
Galway reached AI Hurling Final in 1979, Babs Keating was the manager. Was he not an 'outside' manager?

conordee (Galway) - Posts: 451 - 15/07/2023 20:34:41    2494625

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Replying To baire:  "What a positive and uplifting post from one of our own! Maybe you should hold back a bit on the ould praise!

A few figures wouldn't go astray:
35 years minus 2022 = 1987
Since 1987 Galway have won 3 All Irelands in hurling. Apart from the top 4 no other county has won more than 3 All Irelands in that period. Are you saying that Clare, Waterford, Wexford or Dublin are not serious inter county teams? Dare I mention Offaly?
Going by your logic there's only one serious inter county hurling team in Leinster and only 3 serious inter county teams in Munster. The rest are not to be taken seriously!
Galway have also won 2 football AIs since 1987. Apart from Cork no other dual county has won an AI in both codes in that same period.
Galway have been in the top 4 in the last 2 years, the top 4 in 2016, the top team in 2017, the top 2 in 2018, 2015 and 2012.
Cheer up, we're not the best but we're much better than what you're making out!"
Ha ha ha well said, I feel better already. Galway Abu.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2284 - 15/07/2023 23:09:29    2494674

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Replying To conordee:  "Galway reached AI Hurling Final in 1979, Babs Keating was the manager. Was he not an 'outside' manager?"
Yes, and the great Babs in doing that laid the foundations for Galway's breakthrough year in 1980. He'd all the heavy work, all the lifting and grunting done, for Cyril to come and take the glory for it.

That's something that's much forgotten within the county of Galway!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2124 - 16/07/2023 02:55:50    2494690

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Replying To conordee:  "Galway reached AI Hurling Final in 1979, Babs Keating was the manager. Was he not an 'outside' manager?"
I'm not sure if he was called 'a manager' back in those days? He may have been brought in as 'coach' at the time? Was Inky 'the manager' in '79?

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3914 - 16/07/2023 08:35:42    2494695

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Yes, and the great Babs in doing that laid the foundations for Galway's breakthrough year in 1980. He'd all the heavy work, all the lifting and grunting done, for Cyril to come and take the glory for it.

That's something that's much forgotten within the county of Galway!"
and who did all the work for Farrell in 87 and 88?

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 332 - 16/07/2023 10:38:19    2494722

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Yes, and the great Babs in doing that laid the foundations for Galway's breakthrough year in 1980. He'd all the heavy work, all the lifting and grunting done, for Cyril to come and take the glory for it.

That's something that's much forgotten within the county of Galway!"
He got 1st prize in a donkey derby in Offaly too, don't forget!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 16/07/2023 11:08:48    2494728

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