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Replying To minor77: "Just after watching the kilkenny clare game and looking at the reaction of TJ Reid at the full time whistle with all he has won the passion he shows to win is something that's sadly missing in our make up they won't beat limerick but by god they will make them earn it something we didn't" KK don't play football, which helps with the undiluted passion aspect, I'd imagine. Jackie Tiredrell noted that TJ seemed unaffected by the passage of time after the game, but failed to notice in his twit last night that Galway don't field their 2017 hurling side in 2023, due in no small part I'm sure, to that very same passage of time. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3912 - 09/07/2023 19:11:54 2493405 Link
Replying To katser: "We went to sleep and I'd love to know why? We threw it away again." Maybe Clare and Galway could play in a 3/4 place playoff match to keep you happy. updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 859 - 09/07/2023 19:13:25 2493406 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Absolutely. I'll never forget the 2015 final when a kilkenny team loaded with all Ireland medals out fought and out foraged a galway team with none. It simply shouldn't have happened but that's Cody and his legacy lives on." KK always hurled tough, even Brian Cody played full-forward for then, when they were obviously shhtuck for a full-forward.....at the time. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3912 - 09/07/2023 19:28:52 2493414 Link
Replying To updwell: "Maybe Clare and Galway could play in a 3/4 place playoff match to keep you happy." Clare are 'great'. Galway are relatively rubbish. That's what we're hearing from one-eyed southern pundits all season long, but these 'evalutions' just don't stack up when these sides take to the field v KK and Tipp etc. Perhaps Munster championship junkies will wake up and smell the coffee sometime soon? Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3912 - 09/07/2023 19:34:56 2493417 Link
Replying To updwell: "Maybe Clare and Galway could play in a 3/4 place playoff match to keep you happy." Another fixture for GAAGO Jack L (None) - Posts: 3141 - 09/07/2023 21:20:13 2493443 Link
So after yesterday who will be calling it a day or being shown the door. I was of the belief since last year a new squad with a long term view was needed and this season reaffirms that belief. For me Conor Cooney, GMC, Adrian Tuohey and maybe few other squad players can exit stage left. grellans89 (Galway) - Posts: 257 - 09/07/2023 21:23:04 2493445 Link
After looking at the 2 semi finals I think it's reasonable to say Limerick are a bit ahead at the top while there is practically nothing between the other 3 semi finalists on any given day. Refereeing left a bit to be desired on both days while not necessarily influencing the final result. On a side note, in the AI Minor Football Final today, a 16 year old Derry kid soloed up the wing in the final minute to waste time before going into the corner and putting the ball dead for a line ball. Both Galway teams had a chance in the dying seconds ( v KK in Hurling and Armagh in Football) to do do something similar which would have changed their path to the semi finals. Yet we had nobody with the game management skill to do that. conordee (Galway) - Posts: 451 - 09/07/2023 21:43:30 2493450 Link
Replying To KnockaineyAbú: "I would say a lot of posters have egg on their faces tonight. Two years ago when Henry was appointed it wasn't a question of "if", rather a question of "when" Galway would win Leinsters and All-Irelands. I pointed out his lack of intercounty management and was dismissed by many posters. Even Limerick ones. Two years on - Galway still haven't won silverware. Rest my case!" I really don't see the reason for that comment. Most Galway posters at the time Henry was appointed were just hoping for the best and were nt thinking they were guaranteed winners. Limerick deserved yesterday's win but no need in sneering at Galway supporters who have been very fair and complimentary to Limerick. I was at the game and I too felt Limerick were deserving winners and are an unbelievable team. Probably on of the greatest teams ever but Galway got very little luck during the game nor from the ref either. If Galway had got those breaks who knows? CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 09/07/2023 23:37:19 2493474 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Absolutely. I'll never forget the 2015 final when a kilkenny team loaded with all Ireland medals out fought and out foraged a galway team with none. It simply shouldn't have happened but that's Cody and his legacy lives on." That is a good point. Hunger and will to win are vital ingredients you must have to win an AI. KK always have it and they had the players to achieve their ambition for about 15 years i.e. 2000 - 2015. Limerick have had it since 2018. Galway don't seem to have it year in / year out and only very sporadically in certain games. They had it in the 2001 and 2005 AI semifinals and the 2012 Leinster final when they were completely written off in all those games and they had it most of the time in the 2015 - 2018 era and thankfully managed to achieve the holy grail in 2017 but it has to be there all the time - not just sporadically. When KK lose its like a family funeral for them and when Galway lose its a shrug of the shoulders and a "there's always next year" attitude! tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 10/07/2023 09:45:28 2493497 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Clare are 'great'. Galway are relatively rubbish. That's what we're hearing from one-eyed southern pundits all season long, but these 'evalutions' just don't stack up when these sides take to the field v KK and Tipp etc. Perhaps Munster championship junkies will wake up and smell the coffee sometime soon?" Pundits are pundits and they are looking to be controversial at times, the hurling public don't think that. But you are right in what you say. Tipp for example were rated very highly this year by certain pundits even though they have done nothing to suggest to me that they were top contenders it was all hype. Limerick got unbelievable stick about "discipline issues" when there clearly weren't any and their championship discipline has been exceptional for at least two years. The narrative has run dry now so they will find another stick to beat them with. The point being that pundits talk a lot of stuff and repeat the trend of what everyone else is saying rather than having their own strong viewpoint. Tommy Walsh is one of the few for me who thinks about things and gives his own independent analysis. I do like Donal Og as well because again he at least gives his own viewpoint and doesn't follow the herd even if you don't always agree with him. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 412 - 10/07/2023 10:29:39 2493509 Link
Hard to have much optimism. The class of 2017 are running on fumes. Daithi is most definitely not what he was previously. Still a very good player mind... but there is no fear factor to him anymore unfortunately. GMC has been doing fine, but thats it. If there was a good full back coming through then GMC would have been a sub last year and this year. Having been at the game, the stark contrast i saw between the teams in size,power,intensity and aggression was startling.... seriously on a worrying level. Our half backline, midfield and half forward line look like children eside their Limerick counterparts. I'm certainly not trying to stick the boot in here at all. To my mind, this is their level. Last 4 and thats it. It would have been great to have won Leinster and who knows, based on Clare yesterday, Galway maybe could have snuck it but the inevitable would transpire in the first half. Shefflin may have been caught out tactically when Limerick tweaked things but those calling for him to walk need to rethink things. The players simply are not there. MapleSyrup (Galway) - Posts: 165 - 10/07/2023 11:38:33 2493530 Link
Replying To tommy k: "That is a good point. Hunger and will to win are vital ingredients you must have to win an AI. KK always have it and they had the players to achieve their ambition for about 15 years i.e. 2000 - 2015. Limerick have had it since 2018. Galway don't seem to have it year in / year out and only very sporadically in certain games. They had it in the 2001 and 2005 AI semifinals and the 2012 Leinster final when they were completely written off in all those games and they had it most of the time in the 2015 - 2018 era and thankfully managed to achieve the holy grail in 2017 but it has to be there all the time - not just sporadically. When KK lose its like a family funeral for them and when Galway lose its a shrug of the shoulders and a "there's always next year" attitude!" There's a real whiff of keyboard warrior about this post. I would like to see you say any of the above to a Galway player face to face. I reckon I'd be a while waiting, though. There is no shortage of hunger or will to win, otherwise they wouldn't have pulled back the deficits they have this season alone We were beaten by a better team on the day who worked us out and were able to squeeze the life out of us. It's disappointing but it happens. What do you want the players to do, apologise to you? Is it only the teams who win who have this 'hunger' and 'will to win' that you speak of? what happens if it's a draw, do both teams have equal hunger and will to win, or maybe neither of them had enough of it? Galway and Clare were similar enough at the weekend, they both had huge hunger and will to win, it was a semi final FGS, but they didn't execute well enough or 'control the controllables'. In both games, the better team won because they were able to execute better when it mattered. That tends to be the way in GAA. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 10/07/2023 12:23:46 2493543 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Yes Tommy, if we'd started fellas we didn't start, and not started fellas we did start, I've no doubt we'd have toppled 4 in a row chasing Limerick. It's daft picking the same players all of the time......anyone would think that they were the top players in the county." Everyone knows that every Galway hurler gets better with every game they don't play, right? Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 10/07/2023 12:26:42 2493546 Link
Replying To MapleSyrup: "Hard to have much optimism. The class of 2017 are running on fumes. Daithi is most definitely not what he was previously. Still a very good player mind... but there is no fear factor to him anymore unfortunately. GMC has been doing fine, but thats it. If there was a good full back coming through then GMC would have been a sub last year and this year. Having been at the game, the stark contrast i saw between the teams in size,power,intensity and aggression was startling.... seriously on a worrying level. Our half backline, midfield and half forward line look like children eside their Limerick counterparts. I'm certainly not trying to stick the boot in here at all. To my mind, this is their level. Last 4 and thats it. It would have been great to have won Leinster and who knows, based on Clare yesterday, Galway maybe could have snuck it but the inevitable would transpire in the first half. Shefflin may have been caught out tactically when Limerick tweaked things but those calling for him to walk need to rethink things. The players simply are not there." amen to that SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 332 - 10/07/2023 12:43:30 2493551 Link
Replying To Jackson88: "Top players on the county based on what? Because it's not from performances in the club championship... Most of the players didn't even perform well in the club championship" You're walloping on about the club championship as if it has any relevance to senior IC. It largely doesn't, unless there's a particularly standout goalkeeper out there we don't know about Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 10/07/2023 12:48:56 2493552 Link
Replying To Stool Pigeon: "There's a real whiff of keyboard warrior about this post. I would like to see you say any of the above to a Galway player face to face. I reckon I'd be a while waiting, though. There is no shortage of hunger or will to win, otherwise they wouldn't have pulled back the deficits they have this season alone We were beaten by a better team on the day who worked us out and were able to squeeze the life out of us. It's disappointing but it happens. What do you want the players to do, apologise to you? Is it only the teams who win who have this 'hunger' and 'will to win' that you speak of? what happens if it's a draw, do both teams have equal hunger and will to win, or maybe neither of them had enough of it? Galway and Clare were similar enough at the weekend, they both had huge hunger and will to win, it was a semi final FGS, but they didn't execute well enough or 'control the controllables'. In both games, the better team won because they were able to execute better when it mattered. That tends to be the way in GAA." I'd agree with you in general. The players are putting in an incredible effort, but were simply not good enough to challenge Limerick on Saturday. There was a clear gulf between the teams from late in the 1st half right through to the end. What I will say though is that there are bigger failings in Galway hurling as a whole. Far removed from the current players and management. We have a good pool of underage hurlers every year, in terms of numbers. We are generally failing to bring of them through in terms of quality and quantity to succeed at senior level. Now you can argue that Cork are failing too, but that's their issue and they have started to win U20 titles recently, a grade we've failed badly at for over a decade. I know there's huge work going in behind the scenes, but it hasn't reaped much reward at senior intercounty. I'm hoping that our setup is being reviewed and scrutinised. We have to do better to give our players every chance of succeeding. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2225 - 10/07/2023 13:24:37 2493563 Link
Replying To Stool Pigeon: "You're walloping on about the club championship as if it has any relevance to senior IC. It largely doesn't, unless there's a particularly standout goalkeeper out there we don't know about" So tell me how are players picked? On reputation is it ? Jackson88 (Galway) - Posts: 72 - 10/07/2023 13:57:45 2493573 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "I'd agree with you in general. The players are putting in an incredible effort, but were simply not good enough to challenge Limerick on Saturday. There was a clear gulf between the teams from late in the 1st half right through to the end. What I will say though is that there are bigger failings in Galway hurling as a whole. Far removed from the current players and management. We have a good pool of underage hurlers every year, in terms of numbers. We are generally failing to bring of them through in terms of quality and quantity to succeed at senior level. Now you can argue that Cork are failing too, but that's their issue and they have started to win U20 titles recently, a grade we've failed badly at for over a decade. I know there's huge work going in behind the scenes, but it hasn't reaped much reward at senior intercounty. I'm hoping that our setup is being reviewed and scrutinised. We have to do better to give our players every chance of succeeding." That's a great point. The county board are failing... It seems as if you pull on a county jersey at u14 level that's it all the way through and no other players outside that cohort get a look in. Same thing happens at club level... But just look at the likes of David reidy..playing Christy ring two years ago now in the Limerick snr team. Felt Henry was way too cautious this year in the league blooding players Jackson88 (Galway) - Posts: 72 - 10/07/2023 13:59:50 2493574 Link
At the end of the day the better teams usually win. Limerick are the best team in the country, KK are underdogs, but you cant beat your county team up, they went out to win, but a lot more had to go right for Galway to win than for Limerick. Galway will be back, they have some lively hurlers. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4948 - 10/07/2023 14:00:30 2493575 Link
Galway imo were very light-weight physically. The green giant just blew them away. Kilkenny have the physicality in one sense. However, they are short on pace (youth) in key areas, and I feel Limerick will exploit this. Couldn't believe how slow Richie Hogan was running for one ball. Just treading water with Cody keeping their heads above water. Really (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 10/07/2023 14:04:02 2493577 Link