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Replying To Jackson88:  "Im saying it for so long. He's a huge liability - got caught very poorly for the tipp goal. Mobility wise very poor, distribution poor, tackling poor. I would have daithi burke back at 3 in an instant. Gillane will eat him alive"
I think that's being very unfair on Gmac! Saturday evening was our best defensive performance of the year so why would we change anything? Gmac was admittedly a little sloppy clearing before the Tipp goal but otherwise he was very solid.

After all the much vaunted Tipp full forward line of Kehoe, Callanan and Morris failed to score even a point between them in the match. Two of them were in fact called ashore by halftime so let's give GMAC some credit for his part in those outcomes.

GMAC will be fine and anyway you couldn't move Daithi from 6 as he's playing a stormer there all year. Daithi at 6 together with Cathal Mannion is the platform for most of our best hurling, let's not mess with that please.

Flaherty (UK) - Posts: 126 - 26/06/2023 18:16:27    2489749

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Replying To clare_sparrow:  "key point here Tipp were poor. which was no surprise. A clear pattern has formed in the ranking of hurling countys.. the top 4 are now clearly defined as such with no arguments whatsoever and a big big gap to the rest of the pack.
1 Limerick
(a gap)
2 KK
3 Galway
(a small gap)
4 Clare
(a big big gap)
5 Tipp
6 Cork
7 Dublin
8 Wexford
9 Waterford"
I am not sure about those standing based on the results that are or were on offer. Like are Dublin or Wexford above Waterford when they have not played one other. Are Tipp better than Waterford based on head to head against each other the last two years. I know you are basing it on how far each team got but some are operating in two different championship until the All-Ireland series. Don't be so quick to put us at the bottom of the pile.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2903 - 26/06/2023 18:44:08    2489766

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To clare_sparrow:  "key point here Tipp were poor. which was no surprise. A clear pattern has formed in the ranking of hurling countys.. the top 4 are now clearly defined as such with no arguments whatsoever and a big big gap to the rest of the pack.
1 Limerick
(a gap)
2 KK
3 Galway
(a small gap)
4 Clare
(a big big gap)
5 Tipp
6 Cork
7 Dublin
8 Wexford
9 Waterford"
I'd have Clare and yourselves and Kilkenny all around the same based on this year tbh."
Don't think it matters what the pecking order is, all that matters is....Galway are exactly where I wanted us to be (Semi Final) all though I would have liked the direct route via Leinster Champions!
Now is our chance to turn it on and as you said " wouldn't be surprised if Galway won the All Ireland this year"
But first We need to "pay back" that annoying "limrik crowd " with "interest "!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2481 - 26/06/2023 18:52:49    2489769

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Replying To Flaherty:  "I think that's being very unfair on Gmac! Saturday evening was our best defensive performance of the year so why would we change anything? Gmac was admittedly a little sloppy clearing before the Tipp goal but otherwise he was very solid.

After all the much vaunted Tipp full forward line of Kehoe, Callanan and Morris failed to score even a point between them in the match. Two of them were in fact called ashore by halftime so let's give GMAC some credit for his part in those outcomes.

GMAC will be fine and anyway you couldn't move Daithi from 6 as he's playing a stormer there all year. Daithi at 6 together with Cathal Mannion is the platform for most of our best hurling, let's not mess with that please."
Agreed 100%

ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 26/06/2023 21:55:34    2489815

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Replying To Flaherty:  "I think that's being very unfair on Gmac! Saturday evening was our best defensive performance of the year so why would we change anything? Gmac was admittedly a little sloppy clearing before the Tipp goal but otherwise he was very solid.

After all the much vaunted Tipp full forward line of Kehoe, Callanan and Morris failed to score even a point between them in the match. Two of them were in fact called ashore by halftime so let's give GMAC some credit for his part in those outcomes.

GMAC will be fine and anyway you couldn't move Daithi from 6 as he's playing a stormer there all year. Daithi at 6 together with Cathal Mannion is the platform for most of our best hurling, let's not mess with that please."
Don't get too carried away, that was a very poor tipp team

Jackson88 (Galway) - Posts: 72 - 26/06/2023 21:58:52    2489816

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Congratulations Galway hurlers on bating Tipp! Poor game though, but who cares! I'd give ye a 50-50 chance of beating Limerick, but obviously would prefer to see Limk win! It's anyone's game now.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2118 - 27/06/2023 02:15:09    2489831

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Replying To Flaherty:  "I think that's being very unfair on Gmac! Saturday evening was our best defensive performance of the year so why would we change anything? Gmac was admittedly a little sloppy clearing before the Tipp goal but otherwise he was very solid.

After all the much vaunted Tipp full forward line of Kehoe, Callanan and Morris failed to score even a point between them in the match. Two of them were in fact called ashore by halftime so let's give GMAC some credit for his part in those outcomes.

GMAC will be fine and anyway you couldn't move Daithi from 6 as he's playing a stormer there all year. Daithi at 6 together with Cathal Mannion is the platform for most of our best hurling, let's not mess with that please."
Didn't think Gmac was that big an issue, I think he's legs were gone for the last 15 mins, got caught for goal because of it, but Fintan Burke came on and did well for the last bit, Shefflin used more subs when game was going a bit and didn't have as many tired bodies on the pitch for a finish like the Leinster final.
The Daithi Burke stuff, I think he's the best no.6 in the country atm and the best 6 Galway have had since Keady or Gmac 2017/18. He's been super there, he's definitely proved anyone who questioned his striking ability. He scores, he's good in the air, he very rarely gives ball away, he's athletic and he's quick, he's the perfect back, I actually think he looks revitalized at 6, thought he looked a little below his best at 3 last year (still not bad by any means but didn't have the same energy or influence but was still very good) He's a great back, he's the best full back Galway have ever produced and tbh himself and Sean Finn are easily the two best defenders of this generation, so I get why people want him back there but I think he's doing great at 6 and he's had so many big moments from 6 this year, even the amount of scores. It would be great if there was two Daithis and have one at 3 and 6. Gearoid hasn't been that bad full back but he has had a few shaky moments but at least you know you'll get a guaranteed standard and effort from him. Very surprised Fintan hasn't been given more time at full back but he's still a good option to have there if Mac does have a terrible performance but it hasn't happened yet, I don't think he has 70 mins in him anymore though.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 286 - 27/06/2023 04:46:36    2489832

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Replying To Flaherty:  "I think that's being very unfair on Gmac! Saturday evening was our best defensive performance of the year so why would we change anything? Gmac was admittedly a little sloppy clearing before the Tipp goal but otherwise he was very solid.

After all the much vaunted Tipp full forward line of Kehoe, Callanan and Morris failed to score even a point between them in the match. Two of them were in fact called ashore by halftime so let's give GMAC some credit for his part in those outcomes.

GMAC will be fine and anyway you couldn't move Daithi from 6 as he's playing a stormer there all year. Daithi at 6 together with Cathal Mannion is the platform for most of our best hurling, let's not mess with that please."
You're talking too much sense there Flaherty. The full back line didn't let a Tipp player in behind them all game. I'd be more than happy if it the same could be repeated in 2 weeks time.

GalwayDownUnder (Galway) - Posts: 64 - 27/06/2023 05:08:17    2489833

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Replying To BostonGuy:  "Couple of things here, first off didn't think Galway would beat Tipp so hold my hand up there. Everyone is saying TIpp did not turn up, but has anyone considered that Galway did and actually stopped Tipp from playing their game. One thing we learned is that Munster and Leinster hurling are different styles, I wouldn't be too sure either that Clare will walk past KK especially when their injured players come back.
Now that Galway have sat Conor Cooney except for his cameo (added nothing as usual), we now need to look at the next big issue Gerry Mc, he is a huge liability. People will say he had a great first half, but he was marking a burnt out 34 year old Seamus Callanan who did not have a good game for Tipp all year. The second half on a speedy player he was lost, also made some really stupid decisions. Limericks inside forwards will burn him in two weeks, he simply does not have the pace. Is it time to put Burke back at nbr 3 and J Cooney at Nbr 6? Not a huge pace upgrade but with C Mannion playing deep it would be a better solution IMHO."
I'd tone down the derision there, CC and GMac owe Galway nothing. Legends both. Do you know something about optimal team selection that Henry Shefflin doesn't know?

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3911 - 27/06/2023 08:43:19    2489842

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Replying To Jackson88:  "Don't get too carried away, that was a very poor tipp team"
I think it's yourself getting carried away. Why would you suggest dismantling our defensive set up after it's most settled performance all season? If it's not broken, don't try to fix it.

Having said that I agree with another poster about Gearoid not lasting the 70 so let's plan for that and swap him for Fintan or TJ late on, like last Saturday.

Flaherty (UK) - Posts: 126 - 27/06/2023 08:54:27    2489844

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Replying To GalwayDownUnder:  "You're talking too much sense there Flaherty. The full back line didn't let a Tipp player in behind them all game. I'd be more than happy if it the same could be repeated in 2 weeks time."
Yeah, I'd take that as well in two weeks time.

Flaherty (UK) - Posts: 126 - 27/06/2023 08:57:51    2489846

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Replying To Jackson88:  "Im saying it for so long. He's a huge liability - got caught very poorly for the tipp goal. Mobility wise very poor, distribution poor, tackling poor. I would have daithi burke back at 3 in an instant. Gillane will eat him alive"
You could be saying whatever you wanted for as long as you wanted. It doesn't make you correct then or now.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 27/06/2023 09:16:57    2489854

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Replying To Canuck:  "
Replying To clare_sparrow:  "key point here Tipp were poor. which was no surprise. A clear pattern has formed in the ranking of hurling countys.. the top 4 are now clearly defined as such with no arguments whatsoever and a big big gap to the rest of the pack.
1 Limerick
(a gap)
2 KK
3 Galway
(a small gap)
4 Clare
(a big big gap)
5 Tipp
6 Cork
7 Dublin
8 Wexford
9 Waterford"
I am not sure about those standing based on the results that are or were on offer. Like are Dublin or Wexford above Waterford when they have not played one other. Are Tipp better than Waterford based on head to head against each other the last two years. I know you are basing it on how far each team got but some are operating in two different championship until the All-Ireland series. Don't be so quick to put us at the bottom of the pile."
I wouldn't pay any heed to such non-sensical 'rankings' Canuck. Waterford should have beaten Limerick this year.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 27/06/2023 09:21:37    2489857

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "You could be saying whatever you wanted for as long as you wanted. It doesn't make you correct then or now."
It does though..hence why he was subbed... Big liability

Jackson88 (Galway) - Posts: 72 - 27/06/2023 09:26:34    2489858

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Replying To baire:  "I watched a recording of the game last time, having returned from Limerick, and I noticed each time Anthony Daly spoke about Conor Whelan he spoke only about his strength, the same re J Cooney. When Whelo scored the goal, Daly said he got the better of Barrett with his strength which was total nonsense. He got the better of the two Tipp backs with his stick work, with his skill and hurling ability."
As long as I can remember Daly and most of the Munster pundits do not want or like Galway beating any team in general and any Munster team in particular. That is why you won't hear Daly mention the other 2 S's i.e. Speed and Skill only Strength when it comes to good play or scores from the likes of Whelan, Cooneys, Mannions etc. Last Saturday I also noticed that any soft free awarded to Tipp (and I counted at least 2 on Jason Forde alone) he would say "he was entitled to that" and on any free awarded to Galway he would say something like "Tipp may argue that wasn't a free" or "he looked like he was barging there" etc. As I said many times here before these Munster pundits are not objective and are clearly biased against Galway (or using their pronunciation "Golwaay") so they shouldn't be on any panel IMHO!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 27/06/2023 09:40:35    2489870

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Replying To tommy k:  "As long as I can remember Daly and most of the Munster pundits do not want or like Galway beating any team in general and any Munster team in particular. That is why you won't hear Daly mention the other 2 S's i.e. Speed and Skill only Strength when it comes to good play or scores from the likes of Whelan, Cooneys, Mannions etc. Last Saturday I also noticed that any soft free awarded to Tipp (and I counted at least 2 on Jason Forde alone) he would say "he was entitled to that" and on any free awarded to Galway he would say something like "Tipp may argue that wasn't a free" or "he looked like he was barging there" etc. As I said many times here before these Munster pundits are not objective and are clearly biased against Galway (or using their pronunciation "Golwaay") so they shouldn't be on any panel IMHO!"
The usual nonsense about Munster Hurling.
same 4 semi finalists as last year.
I didn't rate either Cork or Tipp this year at the beginning and this turned out to be right.
Kilkenny easily beat Cork in the league SF
The analysis on Sunday night from Sheedy in particular was ridiculous.
Imagine Tipp being tired as they did a lot of work in Nov-Dec.
maybe they weren't as good as he thought.

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 331 - 27/06/2023 10:30:50    2489901

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Replying To tommy k:  "As long as I can remember Daly and most of the Munster pundits do not want or like Galway beating any team in general and any Munster team in particular. That is why you won't hear Daly mention the other 2 S's i.e. Speed and Skill only Strength when it comes to good play or scores from the likes of Whelan, Cooneys, Mannions etc. Last Saturday I also noticed that any soft free awarded to Tipp (and I counted at least 2 on Jason Forde alone) he would say "he was entitled to that" and on any free awarded to Galway he would say something like "Tipp may argue that wasn't a free" or "he looked like he was barging there" etc. As I said many times here before these Munster pundits are not objective and are clearly biased against Galway (or using their pronunciation "Golwaay") so they shouldn't be on any panel IMHO!"
Pundits are one thing, but referees with similar eircodes and dispositions are a ******** killer altogether, as we've seen for decades. And there's '1or2' of them in the current roster too, and we know who they are.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3911 - 27/06/2023 10:42:47    2489911

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Replying To Jackson88:  "It does though..hence why he was subbed... Big liability"
He was subbed because he had run out of legs by that stage. It was the right call at that stage but he will start the next day.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 27/06/2023 10:53:10    2489918

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Replying To tommy k:  "As long as I can remember Daly and most of the Munster pundits do not want or like Galway beating any team in general and any Munster team in particular. That is why you won't hear Daly mention the other 2 S's i.e. Speed and Skill only Strength when it comes to good play or scores from the likes of Whelan, Cooneys, Mannions etc. Last Saturday I also noticed that any soft free awarded to Tipp (and I counted at least 2 on Jason Forde alone) he would say "he was entitled to that" and on any free awarded to Galway he would say something like "Tipp may argue that wasn't a free" or "he looked like he was barging there" etc. As I said many times here before these Munster pundits are not objective and are clearly biased against Galway (or using their pronunciation "Golwaay") so they shouldn't be on any panel IMHO!"
It would be a bigger issue if they weren't talking about us. Why worry about it.

The referee had a very good game overall the last day, soft frees or not, and had we lost he would have been a long way down the list of reasons.

Look on the bright side, when we win the All Ireland their crying will be the sweetest music ;)

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 27/06/2023 10:56:47    2489921

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Pundits are one thing, but referees with similar eircodes and dispositions are a ******** killer altogether, as we've seen for decades. And there's '1or2' of them in the current roster too, and we know who they are."
Ah Benedict give that a break- look at what Cooney, Kelly and Gardiner, all Galway men, did to other counties and I have not even mentioned Mick Curley yet. The fact is every county have suffered form Refs mistakes and Galway have no special Monopoly of that suffering.I could tell you that my county could make a claim that they 'DONE OUT OF' 11 different Senior All Irelands since 1944 and at least one Munster Senior Football Championship- in both a draw and replay, due to poor refereeing decisions.. However. most of those games were lost by the mistakes of our Managements and Players and it was never entirely a refs fault that we lost any of them.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4471 - 27/06/2023 12:29:36    2489997

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