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Replying To tiobraid:  "Taking one match in isolation doesnt mean much. Limerick beat Waterford by 3 points last year and Galway by 3 and KK by 2 - does that mean that Waterford were as good as everyone in Leinster last year? No its mean f-all.
Getting in the digs like that just shows this Munster-Leinster agenda is coming mainly from Leinster and not Munster as displayed by Mr Canning and Cody the weekend before last. Really cant fathom the obsession of it.

Imagine a huge game coming up next weekend and the first talking point on here is around "my province is better than yours". Done with talking about it now"
the problem with that game is that KK were fresh after having little or no competition in Leinster whereas Clare were burned out because of the intense competitiveness of Munster hurling
KK only have to put out their second team to qualify for Leinster
its very simple really to understand it

Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 19/06/2023 11:57:11    2487227

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Replying To Frontier1000:  "Cork were much better than Galway last year but hit a ridiculous amount of wides. Ye were haunted to win that day."
so Laois Wexford Dublin Westmeath in your opinion are the same standard as Tipp Cork Clare Limerick Waterford?

Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 19/06/2023 11:58:29    2487228

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Most people are getting caught up in this far too much. My opinion for what its worth is that Munster over the last few years offers (in general) more competitive matches on average than Leinster where there are more one sided matches. I think the atmosphere is also better. You have arguably 5 of the top 8 currently in Munster - but thats also open to debate. There was a thread on here at start of the year ranking teams and I had KK and Galway second and third and i think most have them at least in the top 4. Many acknowledged the Leinster final had a better standard of hurling than the Munster final but I dont think there has ever been much of a debate regarding standard of Galway and Kk. Its the overall competitiveness with some of the games that some people are arguing. These things go in cycles too and we will probably never see such a competitive cship as we did this year.
Also for the Munster teams that are left, I dont see too many of their supporters singing the praises of the other two or hoping they win if their own county dont.

Its going to be an interesting month or so. With the news of Hannon out for the semi final, I'm sure the winners on Saturday will go into that game believing. Its been a great cship so far and I'm sure therell be a tonne of talking points next Monday here but hopefully the prov thing is way down the list."
Tipp would prefer if Hannan is playing
as we dont want any oh! but we were missing Declan excuses

Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 19/06/2023 11:59:25    2487230

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Replying To Coolockweigan:  "I agree with you Katser. Sport exists to get us away from everyday 'realism'. Why can't it be us? As some of the lads said no one is standing out. Not a lot of pace but plenty of experience and guile. Hopefully Offaly will ruffle a few Tipp feathers on the way. Gaillimh abú!"
Offaly??

Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 19/06/2023 12:00:20    2487231

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Taking one match in isolation doesnt mean much. Limerick beat Waterford by 3 points last year and Galway by 3 and KK by 2 - does that mean that Waterford were as good as everyone in Leinster last year? No its mean f-all.
Getting in the digs like that just shows this Munster-Leinster agenda is coming mainly from Leinster and not Munster as displayed by Mr Canning and Cody the weekend before last. Really cant fathom the obsession of it.

Imagine a huge game coming up next weekend and the first talking point on here is around "my province is better than yours". Done with talking about it now"
Two huge games for Galway, which is rather ridiculous, and 52 weeks in the year.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3911 - 19/06/2023 12:01:38    2487235

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Galway have it in them to beat any team on their day, but no way will they beat tipp, limerick, and likely kilkenny in the next 6 weeks or so,, that's not me tearing the team down, it's just being realistic.

Galway will need 3 excellent consecutive performances, not likely considering they haven't managed 2 excellent performances in the same championship in decades (I'm including 2017 in that)."
Galway are the kind of team that can knock out any team on their day
but then they flop
so if Galway win you may as well give Limerick the cup
otherwise it will be a Tipp v KK final and the old order will be restored

Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 19/06/2023 12:03:10    2487236

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Replying To Premier28:  "Galway are the kind of team that can knock out any team on their day
but then they flop
so if Galway win you may as well give Limerick the cup
otherwise it will be a Tipp v KK final and the old order will be restored"
You are probably right Premier. Tipp looked awesome against a poor Offaly side. They absolutely blitzed them. Forde looked unplayable. You must be feeling very confident that Tipp are in a nice position. Hope the game is competitive anyway and the Tribesmen come out on top.

Coolockweigan (Galway) - Posts: 29 - 19/06/2023 12:20:59    2487249

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Two huge games for Galway, which is rather ridiculous, and 52 weeks in the year."
It's ridiculous we find ourselves in both games, but we only have ourselves to blame.
Still I'd rather be playing both games now than on 40+ other of those 52 weekends, when the weather is poor.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2224 - 19/06/2023 12:30:52    2487262

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Replying To Premier28:  "Galway are the kind of team that can knock out any team on their day
but then they flop
so if Galway win you may as well give Limerick the cup
otherwise it will be a Tipp v KK final and the old order will be restored"
They're not the type of team that can knock out any team on their day. That's just tired old cliche, rumbling through the air like empty barrels.

Galway were more competitive (more consistent like!!!) than Tipperary imo, when facing the Limerick test in recent seasons 2018-2022, but Tipp still won an all-ireland in 2019, without being remotely close to competitive v Limerick that same season. Rather be lucky than good was Sheedy's post all-ireland verdict, I've no doubt. Wasn't a word about win 1 2 3 games in a row, and we'll evaluate. No, twas get thrashed by Limerick, pray that Kk do us a favour, and shur we'll be called champs if we wind up with the McCarthy Cup.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3911 - 19/06/2023 12:30:52    2487263

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Anyone listen to the backdoor podcast?

Suggestion to move Daithí back to #3 and Joseph Cooney to #6 is probably the right call. I think G-Mac is the biggest loser in the reshuffle but I suppose grandfather time gets us all in the end...

In terms of other switches I dont think we can start C Cooney the next day (BUT, I think he prob will get the start by Shefflin). I think Jason Flynn is now in that impact sub role and I actually think he likes it (its suiting him anyway!).

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 738 - 19/06/2023 12:37:08    2487268

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Replying To Frontier1000:  "Cork were much better than Galway last year but hit a ridiculous amount of wides. Ye were haunted to win that day."
I was at the game. Cork weren't "much better" at all. They hit those wides because they were taking potshots from stupid positions while Galway put them under far more pressure when shooting than anyone else except Clare and Limerick, which were the other 2 games they lost.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14249 - 19/06/2023 12:45:34    2487273

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Replying To Frontier1000:  "Cork were much better than Galway last year but hit a ridiculous amount of wides. Ye were haunted to win that day."
I think wides should count as points as well, and all historical GAA results adjusted to reflect this.....subject to the availability of authentic and verifiable wide count data of course.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3911 - 19/06/2023 12:49:14    2487275

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Anyone listen to the backdoor podcast?

Suggestion to move Daithí back to #3 and Joseph Cooney to #6 is probably the right call. I think G-Mac is the biggest loser in the reshuffle but I suppose grandfather time gets us all in the end...

In terms of other switches I dont think we can start C Cooney the next day (BUT, I think he prob will get the start by Shefflin). I think Jason Flynn is now in that impact sub role and I actually think he likes it (its suiting him anyway!)."
Joe Cooney has trouble tracking his shadow imo, let alone runners. We saw this v Tipp in NHL 2013, and it was shelved at HT. Ten years later feels like an appropriate timeframe for a reprise, especially with oldie Noel McGrath running the Tipp midfield show these days.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3911 - 19/06/2023 12:58:01    2487287

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You'd hope/imagine we will be intelligent enough to put someone on Noel McGrath for the duration.

Tuohy would be my choice, unless/until he can stay out of the referee's notebook, at any rate. Then it becomes a task for someone else.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 19/06/2023 14:54:50    2487380

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I think wides should count as points as well, and all historical GAA results adjusted to reflect this.....subject to the availability of authentic and verifiable wide count data of course."
Ourselves, yourselves and Clare would probably be the big 3 if that was the case!!!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14249 - 19/06/2023 15:35:18    2487421

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Replying To Premier28:  "so Laois Wexford Dublin Westmeath in your opinion are the same standard as Tipp Cork Clare Limerick Waterford?"
I think it's more Clare, Galway, Kilkenny, Tipp and maybe Cork are of the one standard, Waterford and Wexford can beat any of those in that group but lack something to beat a few teams back to back. Dublin kinda like that too but don't offer as much. Limerick then just clear of all, it's a team who's after winning 5 in a row in Munster, it's getting to Dublin footballers in Leinster, Kilkenny in the 00s in Leinster level territory. The biggest worry is if no one has been good enough to land a killer blow on them with all the opportunities and injuries, loss of form Limerick have gone through/going through, how far clear are they with a full team? If they win again this year it doesn't auger well for next year in Munster or All Ireland again....some team, just know how to win. One of the all time teams.
Huge games for Cahill and Shefflin, if either loose it'll go down as ultimately a underwhelming and dissapointing year especially with both essentially shooting themselves in the foot with Tipps collapse against Waerford and Galways dealing with that last ball v Kilkenny. Never a bad game between the two, I'd say the 91 all Ireland semi final is the last champioship game that dissapointed and wasn't decided by 1 or 2 scores. As a rivalry from a pure entertainment point of view it's probably my favorite rivalry, even Kilkenny v Tipp has had some dissapointing games in recent years. Those 2015,16,17 games are up there with the best trilogy of all time, such a pity we didn't get a Tipp galway final in those 4ish years. 2020 game was also easily the best of the Covid games. Found two counties share a lot of similarities in terms of style, hurling ability, outlook on the game etc Looking forward to another chapter in a storied rivalry

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 286 - 19/06/2023 16:00:27    2487443

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ourselves, yourselves and Clare would probably be the big 3 if that was the case!!!!!"
Galway have been as 'big3' as Cork for the last 15 years.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3911 - 19/06/2023 16:09:00    2487452

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I think wides should count as points as well, and all historical GAA results adjusted to reflect this.....subject to the availability of authentic and verifiable wide count data of course."
Ha ha ha. Galway would be unbeaten if that was the case!!!

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2282 - 19/06/2023 16:15:06    2487458

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Most people are getting caught up in this far too much. My opinion for what its worth is that Munster over the last few years offers (in general) more competitive matches on average than Leinster where there are more one sided matches. I think the atmosphere is also better. You have arguably 5 of the top 8 currently in Munster - but thats also open to debate. There was a thread on here at start of the year ranking teams and I had KK and Galway second and third and i think most have them at least in the top 4. Many acknowledged the Leinster final had a better standard of hurling than the Munster final but I dont think there has ever been much of a debate regarding standard of Galway and Kk. Its the overall competitiveness with some of the games that some people are arguing. These things go in cycles too and we will probably never see such a competitive cship as we did this year.
Also for the Munster teams that are left, I dont see too many of their supporters singing the praises of the other two or hoping they win if their own county dont.

Its going to be an interesting month or so. With the news of Hannon out for the semi final, I'm sure the winners on Saturday will go into that game believing. Its been a great cship so far and I'm sure therell be a tonne of talking points next Monday here but hopefully the prov thing is way down the list."
Hard for me to decide if Tipp were that good vs Offaly or were Offaly that bad. The Tipp lads seemed to be WIDE OPEN all over the pitch. If Galway give them that much space we will get destroyed too. 7 goals?!?

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2282 - 19/06/2023 16:23:42    2487471

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Galway have been as 'big3' as Cork for the last 15 years."
True too Pope!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14249 - 19/06/2023 16:29:53    2487475

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