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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "That Galway are inconsistent thing is a very old lazy comment belong to a previous generation. Galway since 2015 2015-Runners up 2016-1 point semi final loss to Tipp who hammered everyone 2017-Won All Ireland 2018-Runners up 2019-Group stage, madness set of results 2020-2 point loss to Limerick who hammered everyone 2021-disaster year and worst since 2011 2022-2 point All Ireland semi final loss to Limerick That seems like a fairly consistent 8 years where they didnt make at least semi finals only twice. I think the biggest thing is not getting over the line v Limerick and Kilkenny in last couple Leinster finals but that's a completely different complaint to saying they're inconsistent Outside of Limerick since 2015 they've played Munster teams 11 times, drew 1 and won 8 and lost just twice, thyve a worse record v Dublin than the rest of Munster outsid if Limerick...that's a fair record. Even throw in the 3 losses to Limerick, it reads played 14, drew 1, won 8, lost 5. Their biggest loss in those eight years was an 7 point loss to Kilkenny in 2016. Nobody ever hammers Galway, they really earn their win even if theyre going poor. Bar Limerick or Kilkenny, I don't think anyone has same level of consistency over that time period, even Tipp who have 2 all Ireland's in that time period have been very up and down too." That's an excellent post, that needs to be read and absorbed by the Liam Sheedy's of this world, and there seems to be a lot of 'those types' down south..........including referees unfortunately!! Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3419 - 23/05/2023 11:48:25 2480825 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Think its points difference between the 3, not points." No it's not because the Antrim, Westmeath and Wexford results are N/A. katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 23/05/2023 11:48:46 2480826 Link
Replying To tommy k: "That is my exact point - good man for posting this up. Of course you can explain that to some posters here and they will still skew it to the way they would like the same as Sheedy not being "convinced"! lol" you're taking the final result from each year to make a point about consistency. Is it just me that sees something wrong with that approach?! theres far better ways to show Sheedy is wrong but that is an absolutely brutal effort at doing it! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 23/05/2023 11:53:32 2480830 Link
Sheedy is a pain in the ** anyway, I never give heed to him. You'd miss Cyril Farrell on the Sunday Game! katser (Galway)** - Posts: 2193 - 23/05/2023 12:16:54 2480847 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "you're taking the final result from each year to make a point about consistency. Is it just me that sees something wrong with that approach?! theres far better ways to show Sheedy is wrong but that is an absolutely brutal effort at doing it!" Consistency is measured by how one has performed over a long period of time i.e. a trend. I work in industry and trends over a number of years is a key measurement on how one is performing so I don't know what you mean when you say its a "brutal effort at doing it" as you wouldn't get a job in our company with that mindset! tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3320 - 23/05/2023 12:39:14 2480866 Link
Replying To tommy k: "Yes thanks OTM - the infamous "there is always one huge day in Galway..." cliché that you've heard the Munster pundits I mentioned roll out every year apart from 2017 and a few years after poor "craythurs". Of course nothing like that was said when Limerick won no AI for 45 years and probably had the most infamous "choke" in GAA history in 1994 v Offaly in the "5 minute final" going from 5 points up towards the end of the game to losing by 6 within 5 minutes. Where were all the Munster pundits then with their bad-minded clichés? You mention Waterford - aren't Waterford the "poster boys" these days for "inconsistency"? Munster people are full of bad-mind I have found for anyone outside of their own little county but they save most of their bad-mind for Galway in particular - you can see it on the faces of the likes of Daly, Cusack and Sheedy especially if Galway win anything. As my father used to say "they are ate with bad-mind" and "bad-mind will give you wrinkles". Long may it continue! lol" OTM is very consistent with the ould clichés Tommy! baire (Galway) - Posts: 1791 - 23/05/2023 12:52:02 2480870 Link
Replying To katser: "No it's not because the Antrim, Westmeath and Wexford results are N/A." No Katser the points difference in the games between the 3 of you. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11827 - 23/05/2023 13:04:58 2480878 Link
Replying To baire: "OTM is very consistent with the ould clichés Tommy!" True baire - very consistent for being inconsistent! lol tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3320 - 23/05/2023 13:52:40 2480903 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Whats the point going back to 2018 to make your point? The fact is Galway havent appeared in a final since 2018 and they should have. They have lost Leinsters to KK that they should have won too since. Either way there has been 4 cship seasons since 2018 so I dont get what you're trying to say. Its a lifetime in hurling. Tipp have won an All Ireland since then and also become the arguably one of the worst teams in the Liam Mc in a couple of seasons so going back to 2018 is madness to make a point!" Refs are an enormous factor in all this. If Owens refs Galway Tipp 15-17, Tipp would have won all 3 games imo. If Barry Kelly refs the '18 semi and final, there wouldn't have been any replay, and Galway would very likely have won the '18 final. Galway's problem is that for every Owens, McAllister, Kirwan, Walsh, Devine, O'Brien, McSuibhne....this list goes on and on...(believe me..as Trump would say), there's been only one Barry Kelly. That's a ratio that has made ribbons of Galway's ' consistency for 50 years and more, but its an argument that falls on deaf obstinate ears down south. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3419 - 23/05/2023 14:15:44 2480912 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "To be honest, I far prefer it when pundits dont rate us. Id say there was more honesty in what Sheedy said than in Tyrrell's comments buttering us up!" Good point PS, that could be very true. In fairness to Sheedy, perhaps a lot of his contribution was framed as a response to Tyrrell's probably excessive commendation of Galway's current credentials. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3419 - 23/05/2023 14:38:15 2480925 Link
What difference does it make it we are rated or not? Who cares. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 832 - 23/05/2023 15:49:01 2480978 Link
Replying To tommy k: "Consistency is measured by how one has performed over a long period of time i.e. a trend. I work in industry and trends over a number of years is a key measurement on how one is performing so I don't know what you mean when you say its a "brutal effort at doing it" as you wouldn't get a job in our company with that mindset!" The only team that you could argue hasn't changed since 2018 is limerick and their management team. So your trends as far back and beyond that are entirely worthless as I have clearly shown by using Tipp as an example. If you can't understand that… There's people here using trends of the last game gakway played every year - failing to mention any of the other games that year! It's about as useful as tits on a bull as the saying goes! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 23/05/2023 15:49:54 2480979 Link
Replying To katser: "Sheedy is a pain in the ** anyway, I never give heed to him. You'd miss Cyril Farrell on the Sunday Game!" For once I agree with you! tiobraid (Tipperary)** - Posts: 4119 - 23/05/2023 15:50:59 2480980 Link
Butter Galway up for the All Ireland or don't rate us at all! Well I'm getting buttered up for the the All Ireland katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 23/05/2023 15:55:37 2480982 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Waterford ran Limerick to a few points in our own backyard last year and with 14 men for 35 minutes beat Galway in 21987 They also comprehensively beat KK, Galways Leinster conquerors in 20 and 21. There is always one huge big day in Galway which they will beat anyone. Tis what happens the next day is often the problem." I think you have mixed up Galway and the last 18 years of Cork there Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 832 - 23/05/2023 18:40:32 2481058 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "For once I agree with you!" Cyril Farrell is a great pundit. Was a good manager too. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11827 - 23/05/2023 19:04:56 2481061 Link
Replying To baire: "OTM is very consistent with the ould clichés Tommy!" "especially if Galway win anything. As my father used to say "they are ate with bad-mind" and "bad-mind will give you wrinkles". Long may it continue! lol" None of them will ever need botox so. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1909 - 23/05/2023 19:55:04 2481071 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Refs are an enormous factor in all this. If Owens refs Galway Tipp 15-17, Tipp would have won all 3 games imo. If Barry Kelly refs the '18 semi and final, there wouldn't have been any replay, and Galway would very likely have won the '18 final. Galway's problem is that for every Owens, McAllister, Kirwan, Walsh, Devine, O'Brien, McSuibhne....this list goes on and on...(believe me..as Trump would say), there's been only one Barry Kelly. That's a ratio that has made ribbons of Galway's ' consistency for 50 years and more, but its an argument that falls on deaf obstinate ears down south." Pope- I could take you back on Limericks record to the early forties. There were at least six Munster and All Irelands refs are blamed, by some Limerick People for 'robbibg us' out of- '44, 45, 49, 71, 01 and 2014, I feel that is all a complete load of horse shite; the simple fact is on those days we did not play well enough and that is why we lost and also we had managements who made shocking decisions on the line and that and not Referees mistakes cost us those games. When Henry Greensmyth wrote a comprehensive history of the carry on surrounding many of those games (Unlimited Heartbreak), and interviewed members of those teams it was clear the reasons for failure lay very much at home . It is too easy to blame referees. Limerick shot twenty wides in 18 and a vastly more expierianced Galway failed to beat them. The fact is, it is very hard to understand how a county can win so many under age titles and not win more Senior Titles, It is too easy to blame Referees. Re Barry Kelly- He was a very good Referee, but he was not free from making mistakes either, nobody is. I find it odd that you mention one Ref above, as Tipperary believe his Father 'Gave the '88 All Ireland to Galway- another load of steaming stuff, as if Galway handled the Tony Keady incident better they would almost certainly have done the three in a row. and if you his son was against Galway the just look at what he left go in the '07 Final. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 23/05/2023 21:13:34 2481084 Link
Replying To Stool Pigeon: "I think you have mixed up Galway and the last 18 years of Cork there" Very Good point but When you consider some of the fine teams Galway have beaten in Semi Finals going all the way back to '75- Yes I was there that day; Cork Fans were utterly stunned, it was often baffling how they then often went on to then go down to what appeared lesser teams than their Semi Final victims. However I genuinely widh Galway well as I would say most neutral fans do and wish well in the future. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 23/05/2023 21:22:19 2481085 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "That's an excellent post, that needs to be read and absorbed by the Liam Sheedy's of this world, and there seems to be a lot of 'those types' down south..........including referees unfortunately!!" I think I did a small study once and since 79 Galway have lost to an inordinate number of eventual Champions. However thinking all Munster Refs are against Galway is a bit like Clare and Limerick people saying Jimmy Cooney and Alan Kelly were against our respective counties and favoured Offaly and KK. Of course that is total rubbish. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 23/05/2023 21:28:16 2481086 Link