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Replying To tommy k: "A lot of the Galway "big men" like Conor Cooney, Joseph Cooney and Jason Flynn are not good at catching aerial ball for some strange reason. The likes of JC and Niall Burke were much more consistent in that regard. What happened to that tennis ball machine that Ger Loughnane was supposed to be using when he was manager as there is something seriously lacking with their ability to grab aerial ball?" Why would being a 'big man' make you 'good in the air' by default? There's nothing 'strange' about the reason, some are good at it, some are not so good at it but 'their skills lie in other areas' That's like saying everyone who is 6'8" tall must, almost by definition, be good at basketball, when they might be stone useless at it Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 03/05/2023 11:36:26 2475362 Link
Replying To jm25: "Jason Flynn must be the most frustrating hurler in the country around 2015 when he came through he was on a par if not ahead of c mannion & c cooney but has fallen away. Since 2017 final can only think of Waterford game during covid where he's had a positive impact and the game was almost gone. Seems very much a confidence player but when he comes on he always seems to take a bad touch with first ball as he did Sunday or is dallying well behind his man and not one you'd put your house on when chips are down Hugely frustrating as talent is there as he showed in 2015 final but that's a long time ago. He seems immensely popular with fans but as a football man mainly what do the hurling experts make of him and his place on panel" The fact we are still persisting with him... If he hasn't clicked in the last few years, why keep trying! CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 499 - 03/05/2023 12:35:44 2475379 Link
Replying To jm25: "Jason Flynn must be the most frustrating hurler in the country around 2015 when he came through he was on a par if not ahead of c mannion & c cooney but has fallen away. Since 2017 final can only think of Waterford game during covid where he's had a positive impact and the game was almost gone. Seems very much a confidence player but when he comes on he always seems to take a bad touch with first ball as he did Sunday or is dallying well behind his man and not one you'd put your house on when chips are down Hugely frustrating as talent is there as he showed in 2015 final but that's a long time ago. He seems immensely popular with fans but as a football man mainly what do the hurling experts make of him and his place on panel" Fair points but during Jason Flynn's time with the Seniors he has played under a few different managers and the fact that he still has a spot tells you either he's a hell of a teammate and/or they have no better option to bump him out. Shefflin being an "outsider" could have cleaned house and gotten rid of any dead weight but he didn't send Flynn packing so you have to think there's a good reason Flynn still has a spot. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2282 - 03/05/2023 13:21:10 2475395 Link
Replying To Stool Pigeon: "Why would being a 'big man' make you 'good in the air' by default? There's nothing 'strange' about the reason, some are good at it, some are not so good at it but 'their skills lie in other areas' That's like saying everyone who is 6'8" tall must, almost by definition, be good at basketball, when they might be stone useless at it" Tommy Walsh often outjumped far taller men Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14249 - 03/05/2023 13:23:20 2475396 Link
Replying To jm25: "Conor cooney shooting from play is atrocious in recent years hard to explain the drop off but take him out of half forward line there's no one to compete for puck outs or add a bit of physicality like he adds. He won a great free standing up a Kilkenny player when we we're struggling. Still a guaranteed starter for me which is somewhat disappointing that nobody has forced their way through to push him out. Today felt like an extra league match the result was only going to decide who comes 1st n 2nd" He has to be the most frustrating player on the team, and I mean it in a good way because we all know what he's capable of - they hit hits a bad bad wide - but then will send over a worldie - then miss another easier shot The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 738 - 03/05/2023 13:32:04 2475405 Link
Replying To galway19: "I'd be in favour of plenty of rotation for the Westmeath game next week. Whelan looks like he is still carrying a knock so should be left out of the 15 and we need to see what the likes of Collins and McLoughlin can do from the start. Fintan needs 70 minutes in the legs as well. Pity that Tom Monaghan is out for a few weeks. I'd be going with: Murphy Morrissey McInerney Brennan Fintan Daithi Mannion Fahy Glennon Mannion Niland Joe Cooney Collins Concannon McLoughlin" What happened to Tom Monaghan, is he out for long? The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 738 - 03/05/2023 13:33:01 2475406 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Tommy Walsh often outjumped far taller men" Exactly, Sean Finn too. He's very good under the high ball. Timing, judgement and the ability to use your body to get yourself in the right position are crucial to being good at catching high ball. If a tall lad is poor in those aspects, he won't be much use at catching anything. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2224 - 03/05/2023 13:36:20 2475410 Link
Replying To katser: "Absolutely lots of room for improvement, so We will have to wait till the Leinster Final v Kilkenny to see how we are motoring.... that's the golden ticket to the All Ireland Semi Final and one big effort away from the All Ireland Final. The quickest and most direct route to the All Ireland Final the better!" I wouldn't be so sure of that if I were you Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3269 - 03/05/2023 13:39:33 2475412 Link
Replying To The_DOC: "What happened to Tom Monaghan, is he out for long?" Couple more weeks. Nothing major as far as I know. galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 806 - 03/05/2023 14:50:06 2475435 Link
Replying To Trump2020: "Fair points but during Jason Flynn's time with the Seniors he has played under a few different managers and the fact that he still has a spot tells you either he's a hell of a teammate and/or they have no better option to bump him out. Shefflin being an "outsider" could have cleaned house and gotten rid of any dead weight but he didn't send Flynn packing so you have to think there's a good reason Flynn still has a spot." Flynn shows up as one of the better players at club level. That's the main reason why county managers have persisted with him imo. Why is Conor Cooney a certain starter...I'd see it as kind of similar...he is outstanding at club level and undoubtedly is still one of our best forwards despite being no better than average most of the time. Somebody said earlier that it is disappointing that nobody has come along that's consistently good enough to dislodge him as a first choice pick... i'd agree with that but I think that's the reason also why we have fallen short over the past few years and ultimately why we will probably fall short again this year. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1968 - 03/05/2023 16:15:06 2475469 Link
There were two subs who brought Galway over the line in the 2017 All Ireland, Niall Burke and Jason Flynn. We should always be grateful for their contribution. Subsequently they were both asked to fill this same role, the impact sub. My understanding is that NB left the panel as he wasn't happy with that situation. Jason should be commended for his loyalty and perseverance. He's undoubtedly a very skilful hurler but seems at times to be lacking in self-belief and confidence. Hopefully he doesn't go near this forum or any other one re Galway hurling! His main weakness is in tackling or marking an opponent, he could do with some advice/coaching in this area imo. baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 03/05/2023 17:14:39 2475491 Link
Replying To baire: "There were two subs who brought Galway over the line in the 2017 All Ireland, Niall Burke and Jason Flynn. We should always be grateful for their contribution. Subsequently they were both asked to fill this same role, the impact sub. My understanding is that NB left the panel as he wasn't happy with that situation. Jason should be commended for his loyalty and perseverance. He's undoubtedly a very skilful hurler but seems at times to be lacking in self-belief and confidence. Hopefully he doesn't go near this forum or any other one re Galway hurling! His main weakness is in tackling or marking an opponent, he could do with some advice/coaching in this area imo." I got told by someone who knows him well he suffers badly from nerves still. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14249 - 03/05/2023 17:44:21 2475503 Link
Replying To The_DOC: "He has to be the most frustrating player on the team, and I mean it in a good way because we all know what he's capable of - they hit hits a bad bad wide - but then will send over a worldie - then miss another easier shot" The dubious prize of "most frustrating player on the team" is between Conor Cooney and Jason Flynn. Both have great skill, speed etc. but often send "easy" chances wide and then scoring a brilliant one. Both are subject to large lull periods in games when you often wonder are they even playing in the first place! Not good enough at this level where its all about consistency and reliability. tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 03/05/2023 18:22:27 2475517 Link
Replying To Stool Pigeon: "Why would being a 'big man' make you 'good in the air' by default? There's nothing 'strange' about the reason, some are good at it, some are not so good at it but 'their skills lie in other areas' That's like saying everyone who is 6'8" tall must, almost by definition, be good at basketball, when they might be stone useless at it" Ah come on stool - someone 6' 8" is a lot closer to the basketball hoop so they don't have to hop a foot higher than someone 5' 8"! lol tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 03/05/2023 18:38:37 2475518 Link
Replying To tommy k: "Ah come on stool - someone 6' 8" is a lot closer to the basketball hoop so they don't have to hop a foot higher than someone 5' 8"! lol" Well Tommy how did Mike Casey contain Jonathan or how did Fan Larkin always overshadow Ray Cummins. I am sure there are several other examples of shorter players more that holding their own with bigger lads. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4471 - 04/05/2023 11:16:35 2475611 Link
One of the most pleasing feature of the Kilkenny v Galway game was that 14 (I think) Galway lads scored. That must be some sort a a record. What a great performance from the Killimordaly lad up front. waterside4 (Galway) - Posts: 34 - 04/05/2023 11:47:41 2475620 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Well Tommy how did Mike Casey contain Jonathan or how did Fan Larkin always overshadow Ray Cummins. I am sure there are several other examples of shorter players more that holding their own with bigger lads." I didn't say it can't happen OTM but it helps if you are taller than shorter. As the old saying goes "a good big un always beats a gud little un". tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 04/05/2023 11:50:30 2475623 Link
Replying To tommy k: "I didn't say it can't happen OTM but it helps if you are taller than shorter. As the old saying goes "a good big un always beats a gud little un"." Thanks Tommy. Yes indeed I agree with you, but there are notable exceptions Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4471 - 04/05/2023 13:04:33 2475651 Link
Replying To tommy k: "I didn't say it can't happen OTM but it helps if you are taller than shorter. As the old saying goes "a good big un always beats a gud little un"." the key distinction the current limerick team have over any other team at the moment is height and size. You simply cant say its a coincidence. clare_sparrow (Galway) - Posts: 441 - 04/05/2023 13:13:30 2475656 Link
Replying To tommy k: "Ah come on stool - someone 6' 8" is a lot closer to the basketball hoop so they don't have to hop a foot higher than someone 5' 8"! lol" You've never heard of Steph Curry or seen him play basketball, I take it? In your world he wouldn't have bothered even picking a basketball up. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 04/05/2023 14:58:29 2475701 Link