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Replying To wexico15:  "Ironically we only conceded 1 goal in 5 league and championship games before today( 6 if you count our dead rubber league game with Sligo last year) which makes the shooting yourself in the foot nature of today probably even worse."
Couldn't make it and SE Radio didn't have it. Sometimes teams that score goals deliberately go for them and are still overall the better team. I don't get the sense that is what happened yesterday? Where did it go wrong?
It's championship now I guess, we don't have to burden ourselves with pressure of promotion or regulation so can focus on trying to get the right combinations.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1800 - 07/03/2022 10:07:29    2404188

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lets put a positive spin on it, nothing to be gained on here doing anything else, iv seen every game this year, byrne cup/league and the improvement is marked in nearly every game, some the forward play yesterday was fantastic, great movement and support play, kicked some top class points, their biggest failure was not taking one of the 3 glaring goal chances that came, midfield more than held their own, the half back line is turning in to our strongest line, now the goals! they all came from nothing so for me i find it hard to know where the blame rests without being able to see a repay, was it just a freak day or something to worry about? only time will tell

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2840 - 07/03/2022 11:01:24    2404198

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Replying To zinny:  "Couldn't make it and SE Radio didn't have it. Sometimes teams that score goals deliberately go for them and are still overall the better team. I don't get the sense that is what happened yesterday? Where did it go wrong?
It's championship now I guess, we don't have to burden ourselves with pressure of promotion or regulation so can focus on trying to get the right combinations."
We missed 3 guilt edged goal chances ourselves aswel as conceding the 4, we made a bright start scoring 1st 3 points of the game, then missed 1 on 1 goal chance so should have been 1-3 0-0 up, Tipp score 2 goals then in the next 5 mins just to compound things and we missed another glaring goal chance after their 2nd goal, seen a graphic on county board social media which has scoring chances as 34 to 19 in our favour, says it all really, we lack a ruthless edge which means next year will be our 7th of 8 on Division 4.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 07/03/2022 11:05:56    2404199

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Replying To Lockerroomboy:  "Eoghan Nolan not starting was criminal, we missed a 25yard free with the wind which dropped into goalkeepers hands, too slow to make changes, brought 2subs on when time was nearly up, joke"
He has done nothing to date to suggest he should be an automatic starter.

Of the full-back line yesterday, I find it hard to fathom that Furlong isn't playing ahead of two of them. I am assuming Sheehan isn't quite up to speed yet after injury, so not surprised he hasn't been brought back in yet.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 07/03/2022 11:20:11    2404202

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Replying To Aspect24:  "Just checked back, the only defender replaced that against London was Carty by Glen Malone, who would have a greater height advantage and IMO a far better option at wing back.
Only 1 goal conceded up until yesterday but some of the goalkeeping and defending was criminal."
I think Malone has looked either rusty or knackered since coming back this year. Got hooked at HT vs Sligo and hasn't really hit the heights he is capable of yet.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 07/03/2022 11:22:32    2404204

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Replying To beano:  "He has done nothing to date to suggest he should be an automatic starter.

Of the full-back line yesterday, I find it hard to fathom that Furlong isn't playing ahead of two of them. I am assuming Sheehan isn't quite up to speed yet after injury, so not surprised he hasn't been brought back in yet."
U think Turbritt and Rossiter are better than Nolan,?, Nolan will start ahead of them come championship mark my words

Lockerroomboy (Wexford) - Posts: 431 - 07/03/2022 11:44:36    2404213

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Replying To Lockerroomboy:  "U think Turbritt and Rossiter are better than Nolan,?, Nolan will start ahead of them come championship mark my words"
I do think Nolan can be very hot and cold, was completely anonymous in the Sligo game, Rossiter hasn't played anywhere near his potential in the bits I've seen of him this year, maybe he's carrying an injury.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 07/03/2022 11:57:40    2404217

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "lets put a positive spin on it, nothing to be gained on here doing anything else, iv seen every game this year, byrne cup/league and the improvement is marked in nearly every game, some the forward play yesterday was fantastic, great movement and support play, kicked some top class points, their biggest failure was not taking one of the 3 glaring goal chances that came, midfield more than held their own, the half back line is turning in to our strongest line, now the goals! they all came from nothing so for me i find it hard to know where the blame rests without being able to see a repay, was it just a freak day or something to worry about? only time will tell"
I do understand where you're coming from but failing to take scoring chances is continually biting us in the backside, cost us yesterday, in the Sligo game and against Waterford in last year's league where our promotion chances went after 1st game of the year.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 07/03/2022 12:01:35    2404220

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We don't have scoring forwards simple, good forwards don't kick too many wides, full forward line especially, their job is too score

Lockerroomboy (Wexford) - Posts: 431 - 07/03/2022 12:39:08    2404232

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "lets put a positive spin on it, nothing to be gained on here doing anything else, iv seen every game this year, byrne cup/league and the improvement is marked in nearly every game, some the forward play yesterday was fantastic, great movement and support play, kicked some top class points, their biggest failure was not taking one of the 3 glaring goal chances that came, midfield more than held their own, the half back line is turning in to our strongest line, now the goals! they all came from nothing so for me i find it hard to know where the blame rests without being able to see a repay, was it just a freak day or something to worry about? only time will tell"
Time has already told. 1 win out of 4 in division 4 . 2 wins from 7 if you include obyrne Cup. And that was against a weakened laois team.
Last year 2 league games and 2 lost v carlow and Waterford.
We are 6th or 7th in division 4. How much more time do we need to give

Northcountyball (Wexford) - Posts: 17 - 07/03/2022 12:59:23    2404248

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Replying To wexico15:  "I do understand where you're coming from but failing to take scoring chances is continually biting us in the backside, cost us yesterday, in the Sligo game and against Waterford in last year's league where our promotion chances went after 1st game of the year."
Agree 100%

Now fifteen points would usually be enough to win most matches this time of year, but given our porousness in defence yesterday (Limerick are the only other team to have hit four goals in a game across all four divisions so far), we had to be even more clinical. I am all for attacking football, and we are actually good to watch when it clicks, but we can't continuously leave chances behind us if we are to improve.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 07/03/2022 13:02:57    2404249

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Replying To beano:  "Agree 100%

Now fifteen points would usually be enough to win most matches this time of year, but given our porousness in defence yesterday (Limerick are the only other team to have hit four goals in a game across all four divisions so far), we had to be even more clinical. I am all for attacking football, and we are actually good to watch when it clicks, but we can't continuously leave chances behind us if we are to improve."
We dont seem to have the forwards to outscore our opponents we left 2 many chances behind. With the forwards we have we need to be able to defend better furthur up the pitch which we dont seem to do particularly well either. Football is a simple enough game. Score more than you concede and you win. No point playing a more open game and conceding more because of it if you are going to miss half the chances you create.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 07/03/2022 13:18:00    2404254

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Replying To Lockerroomboy:  "Eoghan Nolan not starting was criminal, we missed a 25yard free with the wind which dropped into goalkeepers hands, too slow to make changes, brought 2subs on when time was nearly up, joke"
I noticed that on twitter, without making judgement on the actual players, it makes no sense to bring on subs with 4mins to go when you are chasing the game, of course if a player is injured yes but if a player is taken off because he cannot run anymore its way too late.
Also I have noticed there is a tendency not to play the team named, that should be just cut out. If you are confident in your team and your game plan set your team out like you want to win it and stop trying to play games.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1800 - 07/03/2022 13:42:56    2404268

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Replying To beano:  "Agree 100%

Now fifteen points would usually be enough to win most matches this time of year, but given our porousness in defence yesterday (Limerick are the only other team to have hit four goals in a game across all four divisions so far), we had to be even more clinical. I am all for attacking football, and we are actually good to watch when it clicks, but we can't continuously leave chances behind us if we are to improve."
Well I think that was always going to be the case, if we look back at the Club Championship, Brian Malone was one of the top performing (mind you not scoring) in the Championship, we just don't seem to have the young talent coming through upfront to play an open attacking game - as Viking says its fine to play open football if you can score, if not well you will always lose

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1800 - 07/03/2022 13:47:25    2404271

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My own club picks athletic lads who will run and Chase all day but can't score, this is true story, 5 year ago my club was in league semi final, corner forward score 1goal 4 points out of a total 2,11, was dropped for final, I asked why, I was told he doesn't chase back enough, I kid u not, same manager was involved with county underage,

Lockerroomboy (Wexford) - Posts: 431 - 07/03/2022 14:16:06    2404284

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Replying To Northcountyball:  "Time has already told. 1 win out of 4 in division 4 . 2 wins from 7 if you include obyrne Cup. And that was against a weakened laois team.
Last year 2 league games and 2 lost v carlow and Waterford.
We are 6th or 7th in division 4. How much more time do we need to give"
very good point, but id still give them a chance v offaly

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2840 - 07/03/2022 15:21:46    2404302

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "very good point, but id still give them a chance v offaly"
Offaly drew with Meath and lost to Galways by 4 points. Wexford have one win from 4 games in Div 4 and look to possibly be the worst inter county football team in Ireland at present. We will know in a few weeks. I wouldn't give them a prayer.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 640 - 10/03/2022 10:13:05    2404721

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Offaly drew with Meath and lost to Galways by 4 points. Wexford have one win from 4 games in Div 4 and look to possibly be the worst inter county football team in Ireland at present. We will know in a few weeks. I wouldn't give them a prayer."
Let's put it this way, it would be a big upset if it happened. Run them close perhaps but winning is a other thing. However I won't argue with the man if he has been at all the games and says he has seen improvement. We did the same last year and then seem to have took a step backwards.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1800 - 10/03/2022 11:08:14    2404737

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "very good point, but id still give them a chance v offaly"
Not much of a chance to be honest. We dont have lads who can collectively take or kick most of the chances we create and because we are creating so many chances we leak goals on counter attacks. Sick posting about it now at this stage. Last weekend was a classic display of what's wrong with our set up. We kicked 15 points which still wasnt half the chances we created. We only conceded 4 points in the whole game. Yet we still lost. It was like a score from way back in time.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 10/03/2022 11:37:29    2404750

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Replying To zinny:  "Let's put it this way, it would be a big upset if it happened. Run them close perhaps but winning is a other thing. However I won't argue with the man if he has been at all the games and says he has seen improvement. We did the same last year and then seem to have took a step backwards."
I'm not saying we are that bad a team at all. We have some very good players. We play entertaining attacking football. Unfortunately we miss more chances than we take and we leak goals especially from counterattacks. So while we arent the worst football team in the country as players go or as the team goes we are still losers. For example we were certainly better than Tipp minute by minute in general play last weekend. Same with Waterford last year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 10/03/2022 11:41:14    2404751

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