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Replying To Viking66:  "We dont have many natural scoring forwards and he is 1 of them for sure. We need to get a victory and hopefully that will spark a run of them."
In a division where a win is priority, starting our three best forwards (Brosnan, Rossiter,Tubritt) inside is imperitive

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1416 - 06/02/2022 17:09:39    2398605

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Replying To beano:  "Six point defeat isn't bad considering, but the game was over at half time. Tubs made a huge impact off the bench, so you'd wonder why he wasn't starting before that."
`was at the game, just back, cavan are a div 2 team [i know i know! if they were they would be in it etc] but again like meath in byrne cup it was a lesson in the pace the game needs to be played at, ever time a wexford man got a ball be was tackled by 1/2/3 cavan men in a second or 2 while cavan men sometimes [not always] could nearly wave to family in the stand when they had ball, still while we never looked like winning it we dropped maybe 5 shots in to their keepers hands, at stages in first half when the cavan keeper went forward there was NOONE in the cavan half, never seen it before, all 30 players were in the 1 half , dreadful day there, wind, rain and sleet, it was a big improvement on the sligo game, its all amout building for the offaly game now

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2841 - 06/02/2022 19:55:50    2398687

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Replying To Northcountyball:  "Yes the manager had the respect of clubs and players before his appointment no doubt. But that respect was as a player and not what he has done as a manager or coach.

Only my view but there is no way someone should get an inter County managers job without experience in the area.
Liam Dunne had success with Oulart and if I'm not mistaken managed the County minor team for a couple of years before getting the County job...
We should see from other sports that good players don't automatically make good managers"
I know someone who put there name forward. Had good experience with a really good back room team put together but were never interviewed by county board or even contacted out of respect to tell them they did not succeed. Not very professional

Gigger (Wexford) - Posts: 18 - 06/02/2022 20:21:07    2398709

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All the other results in the division were eye-catching, looks to be a spark possibly gone in Tipp and Carlow while London very much in the promotion picture now, Tipp in 2 weeks which looks like a battle of 2 teams trying to keep their very slim promotion hopes alive.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 06/02/2022 21:27:38    2398744

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Replying To wexico15:  "All the other results in the division were eye-catching, looks to be a spark possibly gone in Tipp and Carlow while London very much in the promotion picture now, Tipp in 2 weeks which looks like a battle of 2 teams trying to keep their very slim promotion hopes alive."
Well the way the results are going its Sligo and Cavan out front and they play each other next. London are the surprise but the travel may catch them out however we have to go there as well and if they win their next game they will be really up for it. Looking at it optimistically we have played the best two teams we have to win all the remaining games to have any chance and hope one of the other will slip up - which they could do. Its a tough ask.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 07/02/2022 16:09:05    2399013

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Replying To Gigger:  "I know someone who put there name forward. Had good experience with a really good back room team put together but were never interviewed by county board or even contacted out of respect to tell them they did not succeed. Not very professional"
I heard the same thing, one is now the current Wicklow manager and one is local Football man from Kerry with a decent management team but wasn't even interviewed for it. I think after Galvin, Roche was just a quick fix to fill the position.

Aspect24 (Wexford) - Posts: 9 - 07/02/2022 20:18:41    2399152

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Replying To Aspect24:  "I heard the same thing, one is now the current Wicklow manager and one is local Football man from Kerry with a decent management team but wasn't even interviewed for it. I think after Galvin, Roche was just a quick fix to fill the position."
the cheap option

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2841 - 09/02/2022 09:26:12    2399447

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "the cheap option"
Apparently set up and training not bad, he just doesn't have much to work with? The best of Wexford's footballers are defo in with hurlers.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 642 - 09/02/2022 09:37:51    2399449

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Apparently set up and training not bad, he just doesn't have much to work with? The best of Wexford's footballers are defo in with hurlers."
Spot on. At least 10 or 12 of the senior hurling panel would walk onto the senior football panel. And most would probably start.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11818 - 09/02/2022 10:25:52    2399466

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Apparently set up and training not bad, he just doesn't have much to work with? The best of Wexford's footballers are defo in with hurlers."
the standard of club football in wexford is on a par with clare, hurling in number 1 in clare yet they are in div 2 for years, at local level and national level they say its thanks to collins , who is regarded as a top class coach

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2841 - 09/02/2022 10:33:27    2399468

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Terribly sad to see that young man from Barntown pass away in recent days, was in the county minor football panel in 2019, condolences to all his family and friends, puts any worries or problems we have in perspective.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 09/02/2022 10:50:38    2399471

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "the standard of club football in wexford is on a par with clare, hurling in number 1 in clare yet they are in div 2 for years, at local level and national level they say its thanks to collins , who is regarded as a top class coach"
Clare dont have as many dual clubs or dual players as we do. Most of their footballers play for predominantly football clubs with a few notable exceptions. Same with their hurlers.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11818 - 09/02/2022 11:20:22    2399480

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "the standard of club football in wexford is on a par with clare, hurling in number 1 in clare yet they are in div 2 for years, at local level and national level they say its thanks to collins , who is regarded as a top class coach"
Do you think the standard would be the same? I know West Clare is nearly all football where we seem to be alot more dual evenly throughout the county? The Ross District teams even putting more emphasis on hurling I think now. Collins seems be good yes.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 642 - 09/02/2022 11:36:18    2399481

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Replying To Viking66:  "Spot on. At least 10 or 12 of the senior hurling panel would walk onto the senior football panel. And most would probably start."
Name them and who they would replace, on the evidence of the club championship there is not many that would make it into the football squad.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 09/02/2022 11:38:34    2399482

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "the standard of club football in wexford is on a par with clare, hurling in number 1 in clare yet they are in div 2 for years, at local level and national level they say its thanks to collins , who is regarded as a top class coach"
I think a big problem for us is marquee scoring forwards defiantly cost us vs Sligo, looking at club championships even alot of the most impressive performers are players around half back and midfield, the talented footballers in the hurling panel are often referenced but a good portion of them play there too. Liam Ryan, O'Hanlon, Rory O'Connor, Donohoe etc. In last years club championship the only forwards who really lit it up consistently scoring wise from play were Rossiter and Mini Ryan with Gusserane, Shels as champions didn't have a stand out scoring forward more a case of different lads came to the fore in different games.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 09/02/2022 12:00:06    2399488

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Replying To zinny:  "Name them and who they would replace, on the evidence of the club championship there is not many that would make it into the football squad."
Likely starters - Chin, P Foley, ROC, Donohue, K Foley
Possible starters- Dunbar, Flood, Banville, Hearne
Panel- JOC, MOH, O Foley, Dwyer.
Maybes- Ryan, DOK
Most of them made lads team of the weeks during the championships. ROC was many posters player of the championship. Chin is Chin. Donohue is a superb footballer. Not going through them man by man as I'm not going to disrespect our football squad but if we had the above named playing intercounty football we would carry far more of a scoring threat.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11818 - 09/02/2022 12:39:26    2399493

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Replying To Viking66:  "Likely starters - Chin, P Foley, ROC, Donohue, K Foley
Possible starters- Dunbar, Flood, Banville, Hearne
Panel- JOC, MOH, O Foley, Dwyer.
Maybes- Ryan, DOK
Most of them made lads team of the weeks during the championships. ROC was many posters player of the championship. Chin is Chin. Donohue is a superb footballer. Not going through them man by man as I'm not going to disrespect our football squad but if we had the above named playing intercounty football we would carry far more of a scoring threat."
I'd rate Ryan as alot higher than a maybe, probably the standout midfielder at club level in the last 5 years.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 09/02/2022 13:00:26    2399498

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Replying To wexico15:  "I think a big problem for us is marquee scoring forwards defiantly cost us vs Sligo, looking at club championships even alot of the most impressive performers are players around half back and midfield, the talented footballers in the hurling panel are often referenced but a good portion of them play there too. Liam Ryan, O'Hanlon, Rory O'Connor, Donohoe etc. In last years club championship the only forwards who really lit it up consistently scoring wise from play were Rossiter and Mini Ryan with Gusserane, Shels as champions didn't have a stand out scoring forward more a case of different lads came to the fore in different games."
I agree. Even if you were listing our best players on the current panel, they'd be from midfield back. And most of them have their best quality as carrying the ball.

But it begs the question, if the general consensus is that we are limited in terms of scoring forwards, why the heck don't we make use of what we do have? Tubs scored 1-3 off the bench the last day, where was he vs. Sligo? No-one can convince me that Nolan is a bigger threat than Mini Ryan either but yet he seems to be a manager's favourite. When we were crying out for inspiration in that Sligo game, and Lyons hobbled off, we brought on an extra defender. Naive, passive, inexperienced coaching.

Rossiter, Ryan, Tubritt and Brosnan (even in his twilight years) are our best four scoring forwards- all four should be utilised in every game they are available.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1416 - 09/02/2022 13:14:41    2399501

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In my view with a few weeks training under their belt, our current hurling team would go very close to beating our football team in football.

The reality is that there are many players only in the football panel because better players just won't commit.

Don't forget that Liam Of McGovern played in the last Leinster football final we made.

There are about 5 hurlers who would get their place as a first choice midfielder on the football team. Hanlon, Ryan, Foley, Jack o Connor and Chin.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 524 - 09/02/2022 13:36:26    2399510

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Replying To wexico15:  "I'd rate Ryan as alot higher than a maybe, probably the standout midfielder at club level in the last 5 years."
Correct.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 642 - 09/02/2022 13:53:07    2399512

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