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Replying To wexico15:  "I don't really care about district bias, think its a bit nonsensical, I taught there was 3-4 strange selection calls yesterday pre game and the lads unlucky were spread over 3 districts."
So you are saying there is district bias then by saying that?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 642 - 01/02/2022 12:28:32    2397677

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Replying To wexico15:  "I don't really care about district bias, think its a bit nonsensical, I taught there was 3-4 strange selection calls yesterday pre game and the lads unlucky were spread over 3 districts."
So you are saying there is district bias then by saying that?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 642 - 01/02/2022 12:28:33    2397678

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Replying To Viking66:  "I didnt say it was a success. We lost narrowly to Carlow and Waterford because we couldnt defend the counter attack. We still cant. We are still tactically naive. We dont have half forwards who can defend particularly well. It was good to get a 1st championship win in years though. One swallow doesn't make a summer however and we are still no better than Sligo Waterford Carlow etc never mind Tipp and Cavan. We have a young manager who is learning on the job and supporters with unrealistically high expectations being as they seem to have assumed we would beat Sligo handy judging by the reaction on this."
I take your points and agree with most of what you have said.
And with all due respect to the manager the inter County scene isn't the place to be learning on the job. Not his fault as he fell into the role but surely the club scene is where to start

Northcountyball (Wexford) - Posts: 17 - 01/02/2022 13:27:28    2397697

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Replying To Northcountyball:  "I take your points and agree with most of what you have said.
And with all due respect to the manager the inter County scene isn't the place to be learning on the job. Not his fault as he fell into the role but surely the club scene is where to start"
He didnt just fall into the role. There was a feeling that me feiner high profile outside appointments hadnt brought the county forwards and a general consensus that the job should go to a Wexford man. His recent involvement with the panel as a player was seen by many as a plus also. I dont think there were a huge number of local lads interested in the job at the time but agree if he had a Pat Roe or similar type of experienced man helping him it wouldve been helpful to him. It was also a shame Matty ended his involvement over his feelings about the county board. Football people in the county dont always help promote the game they love here unfortunately.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 01/02/2022 14:02:13    2397714

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Replying To Viking66:  "He didnt just fall into the role. There was a feeling that me feiner high profile outside appointments hadnt brought the county forwards and a general consensus that the job should go to a Wexford man. His recent involvement with the panel as a player was seen by many as a plus also. I dont think there were a huge number of local lads interested in the job at the time but agree if he had a Pat Roe or similar type of experienced man helping him it wouldve been helpful to him. It was also a shame Matty ended his involvement over his feelings about the county board. Football people in the county dont always help promote the game they love here unfortunately."
At the time I got the impression that there was a bit of the Liam Dunne appointment about it. No great interest from outsiders, someone local who understood the local game, respected by the players and clubs alike and would likely make hard decisions on players and not have it blowback. I am not sure there was much how much though went into did he have what it took to take Wexford Football to another level. Perhaps that is a bit harsh - who knows what went through their minds at the time and to be honest I don't think that anyone on here knows is he has what it takes either but this year will show perhaps where he is at.
The concern here is that after some encouraging signs we go backward in the first game of the league when we hit a team up for it, perhaps everyone started believing that they didn't need to work for it in D4, who knows. Its still not impossible to get promoted as this league will be dog eat dog until the end. Yes Cavan and Tip have had recent inter provincial success but they are in D4 for a reason. One of the biggest issues we have is forwards - we have to get goals to win as we lack shoot on the spot forwards, you could see that from the club championship. Another day perhaps we would have got those goals and the world would be right again but neither is it all lost yet.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 03/02/2022 12:56:35    2398107

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Replying To zinny:  "At the time I got the impression that there was a bit of the Liam Dunne appointment about it. No great interest from outsiders, someone local who understood the local game, respected by the players and clubs alike and would likely make hard decisions on players and not have it blowback. I am not sure there was much how much though went into did he have what it took to take Wexford Football to another level. Perhaps that is a bit harsh - who knows what went through their minds at the time and to be honest I don't think that anyone on here knows is he has what it takes either but this year will show perhaps where he is at.
The concern here is that after some encouraging signs we go backward in the first game of the league when we hit a team up for it, perhaps everyone started believing that they didn't need to work for it in D4, who knows. Its still not impossible to get promoted as this league will be dog eat dog until the end. Yes Cavan and Tip have had recent inter provincial success but they are in D4 for a reason. One of the biggest issues we have is forwards - we have to get goals to win as we lack shoot on the spot forwards, you could see that from the club championship. Another day perhaps we would have got those goals and the world would be right again but neither is it all lost yet."
Agree promotion is not beyond us. But we have to stop giving away quick goals and points off turnovers and counter attacks because as you say we arent a high scoring team.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 03/02/2022 14:39:37    2398141

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Replying To zinny:  "At the time I got the impression that there was a bit of the Liam Dunne appointment about it. No great interest from outsiders, someone local who understood the local game, respected by the players and clubs alike and would likely make hard decisions on players and not have it blowback. I am not sure there was much how much though went into did he have what it took to take Wexford Football to another level. Perhaps that is a bit harsh - who knows what went through their minds at the time and to be honest I don't think that anyone on here knows is he has what it takes either but this year will show perhaps where he is at.
The concern here is that after some encouraging signs we go backward in the first game of the league when we hit a team up for it, perhaps everyone started believing that they didn't need to work for it in D4, who knows. Its still not impossible to get promoted as this league will be dog eat dog until the end. Yes Cavan and Tip have had recent inter provincial success but they are in D4 for a reason. One of the biggest issues we have is forwards - we have to get goals to win as we lack shoot on the spot forwards, you could see that from the club championship. Another day perhaps we would have got those goals and the world would be right again but neither is it all lost yet."
Yes the manager had the respect of clubs and players before his appointment no doubt. But that respect was as a player and not what he has done as a manager or coach.

Only my view but there is no way someone should get an inter County managers job without experience in the area.
Liam Dunne had success with Oulart and if I'm not mistaken managed the County minor team for a couple of years before getting the County job...
We should see from other sports that good players don't automatically make good managers

Northcountyball (Wexford) - Posts: 17 - 03/02/2022 16:32:48    2398175

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Replying To Viking66:  "Agree promotion is not beyond us. But we have to stop giving away quick goals and points off turnovers and counter attacks because as you say we arent a high scoring team."
when it comes to wexford football my glass is always 1/2 full so ill head to cavan and @ 5/1 might visit bookies to, cavan are in 4th div because they were not good enough for the 3rd , so they are the same as us

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 03/02/2022 16:33:06    2398176

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Replying To Northcountyball:  "Yes the manager had the respect of clubs and players before his appointment no doubt. But that respect was as a player and not what he has done as a manager or coach.

Only my view but there is no way someone should get an inter County managers job without experience in the area.
Liam Dunne had success with Oulart and if I'm not mistaken managed the County minor team for a couple of years before getting the County job...
We should see from other sports that good players don't automatically make good managers"
Who would you have appointed at that time, bearing in mind there was a big feeling around the county that it should be a Wexford man?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 03/02/2022 17:48:14    2398199

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "when it comes to wexford football my glass is always 1/2 full so ill head to cavan and @ 5/1 might visit bookies to, cavan are in 4th div because they were not good enough for the 3rd , so they are the same as us"
If it sways you they lost a playoff to Wicklow to get relegated just before we beat Wicklow in the championship. How about that for positive thinking?!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 03/02/2022 17:49:53    2398200

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Replying To Viking66:  "If it sways you they lost a playoff to Wicklow to get relegated just before we beat Wicklow in the championship. How about that for positive thinking?!"
thats the thinking we need? enough of thids gloom

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 03/02/2022 20:04:40    2398223

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Worthy captain and vice captain appointments in Martin O'Connor and Liam Coleman, 2 of the best performers even last Sunday.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 03/02/2022 20:36:47    2398230

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Replying To Viking66:  "If it sways you they lost a playoff to Wicklow to get relegated just before we beat Wicklow in the championship. How about that for positive thinking?!"
exactlly!!!! thats the way to view it

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 04/02/2022 08:29:00    2398248

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Replying To wexico15:  "Worthy captain and vice captain appointments in Martin O'Connor and Liam Coleman, 2 of the best performers even last Sunday."
Agree. And looking to the future as well with the appointments.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 04/02/2022 10:02:14    2398263

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i see same team picked to line out v cavan, surprised, doubt the one selected will start

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 05/02/2022 15:58:05    2398422

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "i see same team picked to line out v cavan, surprised, doubt the one selected will start"
Thinking the same, bar 2 subs think everyone is down for the same jersey number as last week.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 05/02/2022 16:52:40    2398437

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "i see same team picked to line out v cavan, surprised, doubt the one selected will start"
It didnt start last week either?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 05/02/2022 16:59:42    2398438

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "i see same team picked to line out v cavan, surprised, doubt the one selected will start"
I hope it's a dummy team, otherwise they are accepting medicority.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 05/02/2022 17:30:56    2398442

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Six point defeat isn't bad considering, but the game was over at half time. Tubs made a huge impact off the bench, so you'd wonder why he wasn't starting before that.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 06/02/2022 16:01:15    2398578

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Replying To beano:  "Six point defeat isn't bad considering, but the game was over at half time. Tubs made a huge impact off the bench, so you'd wonder why he wasn't starting before that."
We dont have many natural scoring forwards and he is 1 of them for sure. We need to get a victory and hopefully that will spark a run of them.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 06/02/2022 16:30:41    2398599

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