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2022 Wexford Intercounty Hurling

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Replying To Dirk1971:  "That wouldn't be Clare's style"
Thank you for that WX my favourite County outside of Clare

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 960 - 13/06/2022 11:17:45    2424525

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Replying To Samson55:  "I don't think wexford will worry about any sideshows that Lohan may introduce.
He will find it hard to defend the indefensible and will not end up smelling of roses if he tries to justify the actions of the two Clare players. Wexford will i am sure rise above any distractions that may surface.
Hopefully Lohan will not go down the path that you suggest he might, because most decent people will see right through it."
I don't think you know Brian Lohan if you think he would get involved in sideshows or deflections

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2684 - 13/06/2022 11:23:12    2424532

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "the more i think of the clare suspensions i think it will be bad news for wexford....lohan is going to circle the wagons and it will be the world are against us motto.....it could spell trouble for wexford."
I tend to agree. I really hope Clare win on Saturday as the competition is better with them in it i.e. They are one of the very few teams who have given Limerick a game of it in Championship over the last few years.

I wont be one bit surprised if Wexford pull it off though. Here's to a super Saturday!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1467 - 13/06/2022 11:36:46    2424544

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I remember Liam Dunne's entire career and as an unbiased bystander he pulled on that ball like every centre back at the time. What was different was the crying afterwards by a team who bottled it and were looking for somebody to blame. That was the game back then and Ciaran Carey would have pulled the same.
It didn't define Liam Dunne's career at all and as a Dub who played in the half back line back then and was only marginally taller, I always was in awe of the man who could go up against lads a foot taller and go to to toe with them.
Look, the GAA is full of people who want to blame anybody but the players. Be it a referee, be it a manager, be it a GAA committee. Most players have done things they regret in their career at some stage. I was no shrinking violet when hurling club hurling in Dublin in the late 80s/90s and have done things I regretted later, but that was also the way the game was played back then.
But I can honestly hand on heart say, I never once hit a player a dirty belt in the face or deliberately kicked a player on the ground.
There is nothing "on the ball" about hitting or attempting to hit a player in the face with a hurl. Helmet or not, it is a potential jaw breaker. Sometimes, you have to think you are defending the indefensible. To not do so, and seek to find mitigation or "he's not that type of player" tripe, is why the GAA rule book is in such a mess.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1267 - 13/06/2022 11:38:05    2424546

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "I don't think you know Brian Lohan if you think he would get involved in sideshows or deflections"
I don't know him but don't think he would. Remember, most "sideshows" are media or supporter generated on the likes of Twitter. I doubt Darragh Egan is too worried about anything other than getting the best 15 on the team for Wexford and how to beat Clare.
Anything else is up to those outside the camp to get antsy about.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1267 - 13/06/2022 11:41:01    2424550

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Really looking to the game on Saturday.

I genuinely think it's a 50 50 game.
I do think Clare on their best day are ahead of Wexford. However, as pointed out by others posters(wise Limerick posters), there will be a slight hangover from the Munster final because players are only human and it's difficult to get all your panel perform every day out. Who knows how much has that great Munster final taken out of the Clare players mentally/physically/emotionally?

All I do know, is that Wexford are underdogs and that suits us really well.
We can give this game a real cut with everything to gain and we have the ability to win it.
Up Wexford!

Punter72007 (Wexford) - Posts: 318 - 13/06/2022 12:11:43    2424576

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Huge performance coming Saturday evening from our lads, make sure to get your tickets and get in there good an early lads... this is a game not be missed.

logger (Wexford) - Posts: 299 - 13/06/2022 12:15:45    2424578

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "I remember Liam Dunne's entire career and as an unbiased bystander he pulled on that ball like every centre back at the time. What was different was the crying afterwards by a team who bottled it and were looking for somebody to blame. That was the game back then and Ciaran Carey would have pulled the same.
It didn't define Liam Dunne's career at all and as a Dub who played in the half back line back then and was only marginally taller, I always was in awe of the man who could go up against lads a foot taller and go to to toe with them.
Look, the GAA is full of people who want to blame anybody but the players. Be it a referee, be it a manager, be it a GAA committee. Most players have done things they regret in their career at some stage. I was no shrinking violet when hurling club hurling in Dublin in the late 80s/90s and have done things I regretted later, but that was also the way the game was played back then.
But I can honestly hand on heart say, I never once hit a player a dirty belt in the face or deliberately kicked a player on the ground.
There is nothing "on the ball" about hitting or attempting to hit a player in the face with a hurl. Helmet or not, it is a potential jaw breaker. Sometimes, you have to think you are defending the indefensible. To not do so, and seek to find mitigation or "he's not that type of player" tripe, is why the GAA rule book is in such a mess."
Great post exile

Clare won a senior all Ireland on the back of 3 U21s in 2013 and a lot of people thought they would have a good decade. They were a popular team but soon started in -fighting, resulting in dressing room fall-outs, players being banned from attending matches by the manager. Then Fitzy got sacked. Then the Fitzy v Lohan and Loughnane debacle began. What should have been a very successful few years was a disappointment and ruined by fighting within the county.

Again this week all the talk about Clare is them feeling victimised and unfairly treated with regard to the proposed bans. There is an attitude that the media are against them which is not true and I would think that 31 counties were shouting for them vs Limerick last week and in fairness they were unlucky not to win the Munster title.

Saying that they were also very lucky not to finish the match with 13 men and they should have received two red cards.

If the bans are overturned the message that will be sent out by the GAA is that you can strike with the hurl or punch a player and as long as the ref misses it - it is ok. Furthermore if you moan and complain enough in the media then bans will be overturned- if this becomes a precedent then it will be chaos.

The rules are there to protect players.

Clare think you can punch players in the chest or hit them with the hurl and if they are caught they claim it's not fair and the whole world is against them. I don't buy into the attitude that these bans galvanising players either. The loss of these lads will be a huge loss to them and a massive boost to Wexford.

Put it this way. If you robbed a bank and made your getaway - then were later arrested because you were caught on CCTV would the judge find you not guilty because you said "that's not fair the whole world is against me because we are from Clare!"

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 585 - 13/06/2022 12:22:52    2424582

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Any word on how many tickets clubs will get lads? Hard to know whether to get tickets on ticketmaster or through the club"
Best bet is through the club. Think the only tickets going on general sale will be the surplus. If any.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14233 - 13/06/2022 12:52:11    2424609

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Replying To clooney:  "What absolute nonsense Brian Lohan doesn't do sideshows a very ordinary straightforward man I am surprised to read such rubbish from a Wexford poster. People still moan about a pull by a Wexford player in the 96 AI Final who was a very tough hurler buy also one of the best of his generation but many define him by that ONE action so please remember this when you are spouting rubbish.

Clare will appeal the suspensions but it wont make any difference there will be no whinging if we are beat we are out simple as and we will wish WX well.

WX on there day can beat anyone I have often said that and they would put it up to Limerick as well then on there bad days they can be awful"
Clooney, i don't think you read my post accurately. I did not say Lohan would have sideshows.
I was simply responding to the Limerich poster
Munsterchamps. He suggested that Brian Lohan might use the suspensions as a way to get support from the public or whoever else.
"Poor me" is what our friend in Limerick said might be his attitude.
I personally do not believe Lohan would go in that direction.
In my post all i said was if he went down that road that he would not get much support and
Wexford wouldn't be influenced by any such distraction. You are right Clooney, Lohan is a decent man and i certainly couldn't see him resort to silly tactics like munsterchamps alluded to.
I would kindly ask you to read his post and mine and then you will see quite clearly who is trying to stir things up and writing the rubbish as you call it.

Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 13/06/2022 12:56:22    2424610

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "I remember Liam Dunne's entire career and as an unbiased bystander he pulled on that ball like every centre back at the time. What was different was the crying afterwards by a team who bottled it and were looking for somebody to blame. That was the game back then and Ciaran Carey would have pulled the same.
It didn't define Liam Dunne's career at all and as a Dub who played in the half back line back then and was only marginally taller, I always was in awe of the man who could go up against lads a foot taller and go to to toe with them.
Look, the GAA is full of people who want to blame anybody but the players. Be it a referee, be it a manager, be it a GAA committee. Most players have done things they regret in their career at some stage. I was no shrinking violet when hurling club hurling in Dublin in the late 80s/90s and have done things I regretted later, but that was also the way the game was played back then.
But I can honestly hand on heart say, I never once hit a player a dirty belt in the face or deliberately kicked a player on the ground.
There is nothing "on the ball" about hitting or attempting to hit a player in the face with a hurl. Helmet or not, it is a potential jaw breaker. Sometimes, you have to think you are defending the indefensible. To not do so, and seek to find mitigation or "he's not that type of player" tripe, is why the GAA rule book is in such a mess."
Excellent post. I agree re Liam Dunne. It was what all good 6s did. Carey did it. Kem mcgrath a bit later on did it.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 13/06/2022 13:01:06    2424612

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Replying To Viking66:  "Best bet is through the club. Think the only tickets going on general sale will be the surplus. If any."
I wonder how many our clubs will be getting .

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 13/06/2022 13:10:50    2424622

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Replying To Afinestick:  "I wonder how many our clubs will be getting ."
Read each county will get 9000 tickets but not sure how true that is.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14233 - 13/06/2022 13:23:35    2424627

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Replying To Samson55:  "Clooney, i don't think you read my post accurately. I did not say Lohan would have sideshows.
I was simply responding to the Limerich poster
Munsterchamps. He suggested that Brian Lohan might use the suspensions as a way to get support from the public or whoever else.
"Poor me" is what our friend in Limerick said might be his attitude.
I personally do not believe Lohan would go in that direction.
In my post all i said was if he went down that road that he would not get much support and
Wexford wouldn't be influenced by any such distraction. You are right Clooney, Lohan is a decent man and i certainly couldn't see him resort to silly tactics like munsterchamps alluded to.
I would kindly ask you to read his post and mine and then you will see quite clearly who is trying to stir things up and writing the rubbish as you call it."
Fair enough but stop responding to mischief making by that Limerick poster its nothing to him now he's in the All Ireland semi final

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 960 - 13/06/2022 13:44:03    2424641

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Managed to get two stand tickets earlier, I was sitting waiting for the countdown to finish so I must have been one of the first in line. They were all gone within 10 minutes.

ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 292 - 13/06/2022 13:50:02    2424647

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Replying To clooney:  "Fair enough but stop responding to mischief making by that Limerick poster its nothing to him now he's in the All Ireland semi final"
I find it difficult not to respond to mischief makers such as that Limerick poster. But i get what you mean.
Anyway i hope we will have an epic game on Saturday and may the best side win.

Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 13/06/2022 14:30:42    2424681

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Replying To ChinCanHurl:  "Managed to get two stand tickets earlier, I was sitting waiting for the countdown to finish so I must have been one of the first in line. They were all gone within 10 minutes."
Same as that - the double header was a terrible idea - they should of split the 2 matches over Saturdag and Sunday - would of been close to 2 sell outs!

Davidwex (Wexford) - Posts: 11 - 13/06/2022 14:41:26    2424692

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Replying To Viking66:  "Hopefully the lads might have bulked up a bit since last year. I think that's the single biggest difference between us and the top intercounty underage teams from watching the matches the last good few years. I dont think our lads are less skilful or that management is any worse. At underage alot can depend on what happens on the day. Even more so than senior. The players arent as experienced at reacting to what's happening on the pitch and management can only do so much from the sideline. They arent on the pitch at the end of the day."
I normally get my tickets in SuperValu . I guess that won't work this time. Tried Ticketmaster but nothing. Surely, they should have put this double header in Croke Park?

Selskarexile (Wexford) - Posts: 29 - 13/06/2022 14:48:06    2424696

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Replying To Selskarexile:  "I normally get my tickets in SuperValu . I guess that won't work this time. Tried Ticketmaster but nothing. Surely, they should have put this double header in Croke Park?"
Worse than trying to get tickets for all Ireland in 96. Tried online and over 5,000 ahead of me in the queue so just gave up and my club is going to have a lot of disappointed people including me based on the number of tickets they think they're getting (<100).
Crazy decision to have this game in thurles as part of a double header. The tailteann cup is the reason as they're trying to showcase and don't want any games on elsewhere at the same time due to tv commitments. Should've been croke park as a doubleheader on Saturday

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 528 - 13/06/2022 15:12:29    2424706

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Replying To Davidwex:  "Same as that - the double header was a terrible idea - they should of split the 2 matches over Saturdag and Sunday - would of been close to 2 sell outs!"
Doubt there would have been 2 sell outs that would be 90000 tickets . Would imagine there could be up to 10k people that would like to go on Saturday but can't get tickets though .

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 13/06/2022 15:20:07    2424711

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