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Our football coaches are getting experience across the border.
Castletown (Wexford) have 4 individuals involved with different teams across all the grades. Anthony Masterson with Arklow, Noel Morris with An Tochar, James Flood with Newtown, Paul Morris with Ballinacor.
Lloyd Colfer is coaching with Avondale in Wicklow also.
One would assume there is more in Carlow and beyond. Football is alive in Wexford and needs to be given every chance to succeed.

skipper101 (Wexford) - Posts: 13 - 10/08/2022 12:28:53    2436945

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Replying To skipper101:  "Our football coaches are getting experience across the border.
Castletown (Wexford) have 4 individuals involved with different teams across all the grades. Anthony Masterson with Arklow, Noel Morris with An Tochar, James Flood with Newtown, Paul Morris with Ballinacor.
Lloyd Colfer is coaching with Avondale in Wicklow also.
One would assume there is more in Carlow and beyond. Football is alive in Wexford and needs to be given every chance to succeed."
someone once told me than there are more playing football in co wexford than play huring, iv tried getting the numbers from wexford park a couple of years ago with no success, what do lads think? the fact there is at least 8 football teams in wexford town might swing it

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2361 - 10/08/2022 14:57:07    2436964

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "someone once told me than there are more playing football in co wexford than play huring, iv tried getting the numbers from wexford park a couple of years ago with no success, what do lads think? the fact there is at least 8 football teams in wexford town might swing it"
I wouldnt have thought so.

Most of the players in Wexford town also play hurling with one of the clubs but thats not the case with rural clubs like Oulart and Ratnure.

TBH i would say its fairly much 50:50

TheHogues (Wexford) - Posts: 18 - 10/08/2022 15:07:09    2436966

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "someone once told me than there are more playing football in co wexford than play huring, iv tried getting the numbers from wexford park a couple of years ago with no success, what do lads think? the fact there is at least 8 football teams in wexford town might swing it"
No, that's just plainly false and a small bit of research would have answered it.

Each of the top 5 grades in hurling and football have 12 teams. Senior, Intermediate, Intermediate A, Junior and Junior A.

So the difference in playing numbers becomes obvious when looking at Junior B.

There are 40 teams in Junior B hurling and 24 in Junior B football (in 2021).


So at adult there are 100 hurling teams and 84 football teams. There is very little difference in numbers at underage when it comes to hurling v football.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 10/08/2022 16:03:16    2436975

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "someone once told me than there are more playing football in co wexford than play huring, iv tried getting the numbers from wexford park a couple of years ago with no success, what do lads think? the fact there is at least 8 football teams in wexford town might swing it"
In fairness, I don't think Wexford Park would have that sort of breakdown. They'd just have the number of members registered to each club, but this would include non-playing members as well as players. Also, in the case of players with dual clubs, they wouldn't have a breakdown of who just plays hurling, who just plays football, and who plays both.

Would think the only way of finding out for sure what you're asking would be to go through every single teamsheet submitted over the course of a year, and that would be a hell of a job for somebody!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 954 - 10/08/2022 16:23:42    2436982

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Replying To Onfor15:  "No, that's just plainly false and a small bit of research would have answered it.

Each of the top 5 grades in hurling and football have 12 teams. Senior, Intermediate, Intermediate A, Junior and Junior A.

So the difference in playing numbers becomes obvious when looking at Junior B.

There are 40 teams in Junior B hurling and 24 in Junior B football (in 2021).


So at adult there are 100 hurling teams and 84 football teams. There is very little difference in numbers at underage when it comes to hurling v football."
Good way of working it out lad. At the same time it's pretty apparent then that there isn't a huge difference in playing numbers between football and hurling.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5548 - 10/08/2022 18:12:23    2437004

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James Breen, Capt. (Adamstown), Seán Gaule (St. Anne's), Michael Furlong (Adamstown), Derek Butler (Geraldine O'Hanrahan's), John Leacy (Glynn-Barntown),Conor Carty 0-1 (Castletown), Matthew O'Hanlon (St. James'), Michael O'Regan 0-2 (1f) (Glynn-Barntown), Liam Óg McGovern (St. Anne's), Emmet Kent 0-1 (Clongeen), Paudie Kelly 0-3 (St. Martin's), Kevin O'Grady 0-2 (1f) (St. James'), Killian Kehoe 1-0(Gusserane O'Rahilly's), Brendan Halpin (Castletown). Subs: Declan Murphy (Horeswood) for Brendan Halpin, Tiernan Rossiter (St. Mary's Rosslare) for Killian Kehoe. Also: Myles Roche (Ballyhogue), Barry O'Gorman (Taghmon-Camross), James Boggan (St. Martin's), Christy Lane (St. Mary's Maudlintown, Aidan Jones (Kilanerin), Darragh Cullen (Naomh Éanna). Extended Panel: Alan Nolan (Taghmon-Camross), Darragh McDonald (Naomh Éanna), Martin Atkinson (HWH Bunclody), Liam Donnelly (Shelmaliers), Graham Carty (St. Mary's Maudlintown), Anton Stafford (Clongeen), Colm Kehoe (Cloughbawn), Shane Bradley (Adamstown), Brian Berney (St. Martin's), Michael Bowler (Duffry Rovers) and Andrew Shore (Davidstown-Courtnacuddy)
The 2011 Leinster u21 winning extended panel.
Only 2 lads became intercounty hurling starters long term, MOH and Mogie, and only 2 more played a hurling championship game as far as I can remember, Shore and Breen. So being a dual county isn't the whole reason our football fortunes declined.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5548 - 10/08/2022 18:27:20    2437006

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Replying To Viking66:  "James Breen, Capt. (Adamstown), Seán Gaule (St. Anne's), Michael Furlong (Adamstown), Derek Butler (Geraldine O'Hanrahan's), John Leacy (Glynn-Barntown),Conor Carty 0-1 (Castletown), Matthew O'Hanlon (St. James'), Michael O'Regan 0-2 (1f) (Glynn-Barntown), Liam Óg McGovern (St. Anne's), Emmet Kent 0-1 (Clongeen), Paudie Kelly 0-3 (St. Martin's), Kevin O'Grady 0-2 (1f) (St. James'), Killian Kehoe 1-0(Gusserane O'Rahilly's), Brendan Halpin (Castletown). Subs: Declan Murphy (Horeswood) for Brendan Halpin, Tiernan Rossiter (St. Mary's Rosslare) for Killian Kehoe. Also: Myles Roche (Ballyhogue), Barry O'Gorman (Taghmon-Camross), James Boggan (St. Martin's), Christy Lane (St. Mary's Maudlintown, Aidan Jones (Kilanerin), Darragh Cullen (Naomh Éanna). Extended Panel: Alan Nolan (Taghmon-Camross), Darragh McDonald (Naomh Éanna), Martin Atkinson (HWH Bunclody), Liam Donnelly (Shelmaliers), Graham Carty (St. Mary's Maudlintown), Anton Stafford (Clongeen), Colm Kehoe (Cloughbawn), Shane Bradley (Adamstown), Brian Berney (St. Martin's), Michael Bowler (Duffry Rovers) and Andrew Shore (Davidstown-Courtnacuddy)
The 2011 Leinster u21 winning extended panel.
Only 2 lads became intercounty hurling starters long term, MOH and Mogie, and only 2 more played a hurling championship game as far as I can remember, Shore and Breen. So being a dual county isn't the whole reason our football fortunes declined."
I think about 12 of that team played senior football league at some stage, I'm guessing about 8 of them played senior championship for Wexford.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1509 - 11/08/2022 09:56:51    2437032

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Replying To Viking66:  "Good way of working it out lad. At the same time it's pretty apparent then that there isn't a huge difference in playing numbers between football and hurling."
Based on the League entries there are 42 Hurling Clubs with 60 teams and 41 Football Clubs with 57 teams.
The most interesting stat in that thought is where the clubs are based.
In Wexford District there are 10 Hurling clubs of which 6 are senior and in Football there are 13 of which 6 are senior. The share of senior football titles over the past ten years represent that ratio and I would say since the demise of the OTB era the same in Hurling.
I am not sure that will change much over time either. The new SE Uni campus coming is coming to Wexford town which will no doubt see more economic activity based around the Wexford town belt. There will of course be benefits to other clubs just outside that belt but for a lot of clubs its going to be a continual loss to the urban areas. Its not that they will fold but the question is, is it in the best interests of the players to look at mergers with neighboring clubs. Hopefully not and its a case of a rising tide lifts all boats!

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1453 - 11/08/2022 14:38:15    2437078

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "I think about 12 of that team played senior football league at some stage, I'm guessing about 8 of them played senior championship for Wexford."
They did. Point is should we not have done better then over the decade than ending up in div 4 and only winning a handful of senior championship games?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5548 - 11/08/2022 16:07:26    2437090

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Replying To Viking66:  "They did. Point is should we not have done better then over the decade than ending up in div 4 and only winning a handful of senior championship games?"
It's consistency that is the problem. We don't have to be winning but rather showing elwe are competitive and too many years in u20/21 we have failed to be that. Win it once then say you get 8 guys off it, but the following year none. That just cannot be. What would be interesting to see is if post that year how many the following year end up playing and the year after that. The same will happen with Offaly.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1453 - 12/08/2022 10:09:19    2437126

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