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Replying To Formertownie:  "Looks like faythe harriers are more successful than the vols in football to anyone under the work retirement age of 65 according to these stats that could nt be right could it
Go on the townies hopping off each other"
Isn't that what lads from town always did? Historically now. Asking for a friend?!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6607 - 13/10/2022 18:25:15    2443892

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Has anybody heard anything about u19 club football? Presume it would be run on a round robin like hurling was earlier in the year, if they learned 1 thing from it is not to have to many grades. With majority of adult teams finished you'd hope they could start it in a few weeks.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 416 - 13/10/2022 20:35:59    2443909

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Looks like faythe harriers are more successful than the vols in football to anyone under the work retirement age of 65 according to these stats that could nt be right could it
Go on the townies hopping off each other"
Big LOL to that one. As the other fella himself might say, facts and statistics don't lie!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1277 - 13/10/2022 20:44:18    2443910

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Has anybody heard anything about u19 club football? Presume it would be run on a round robin like hurling was earlier in the year, if they learned 1 thing from it is not to have to many grades. With majority of adult teams finished you'd hope they could start it in a few weeks."
And back to some proper football talk. :)

Details were sent to clubs sometime last week. It's to start on the weekend of November 4, with matches on Friday nights and Saturdays. They say Sundays are being left free for trials for county minor and U20 panels.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1277 - 13/10/2022 21:42:09    2443915

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When previewing the intermediate final, it's remarkable how similar both teams are in terms of scoring output. Fethard have scored 11-92 across their seven games to date, with Horeswood hitting 13-88. Defensively, they are almost equal too, with Fethard conceding 6-67 and Horeswood 6-64. So basically five points here and there in the difference.

Breaking it down further though, and while one of the two biggest scoring tallies came in their respective final group games (Fethard beat Bannow by 4-11 to 1-7 at the same time Horeswood beat Taghmon 3-13 to 0-7), perhaps the fact that Fethard's second biggest scoring spree came in their semi-final is instructive of them hitting form at the right time. Tubritt, Dwyer and Byrne hit 3-8 between them from play that day.

I actually think Horeswood's much vaunted attacking prowess is somewhat overblown, in that it seems that only one comes to the party on any given day. Meyler was the match-winner in the semi, PJ hit 1-1 against Ferns but still doesn't look the same player as before, and Nolan is their top scorer overall with 4-20 (4-16 from play is impressive to be fair) but plays midfield lately. That perhaps shows that they have the potential to blow away a team if they all click together, but I just feel that Fethard's individual talents are slightly more explosive and consistent.

If I was picking a team of the championship (which I will do post-game), I am not sure I'd have any Horeswood defenders on it, but there are definitely a couple of Fethard lads in contention. Having seen both of them in the flesh, I just felt that Fethard have a better defensive structure- in fact I thought Horeswood were completely naive against Ferns in the quarter-finals in that regard.

One mitigating factor is Horeswood's modern record in finals. I know they lost in 2003 and to St.Martin's in the junior a couple of years ago, but otherwise they seem to have an innate ability to get the job done. It's less familiar territory for Fethard aside from their resurgence in the hurling in the noughties, although their young brigade have had good underage success.

I do think the double-bill tomorrow has the makings to be a thriller, but I think overall Fethard will nick it.

I haven't seen Adamstown in the flesh, but have regularly seen Cloughbawn, and have been generally impressed every time. Shane Kehoe is as good a half-back as anyone, Gavin Murphy is solid at 6, Squingy is flying it at midfield, while Harry Kehoe, Whitty and Flood are all in good form too. They have knocked on the door long enough and would love to see them get over the line. It's something of a master vs apprentice on the sideline with Aidan O'Brien vs. Colm Morris, and while Adamstown have been tight and hard to breakdown, I think their neighbours will give them their sternest challenge of the year and prevail by a couple of points.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1282 - 14/10/2022 13:19:00    2443965

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Replying To beano:  "When previewing the intermediate final, it's remarkable how similar both teams are in terms of scoring output. Fethard have scored 11-92 across their seven games to date, with Horeswood hitting 13-88. Defensively, they are almost equal too, with Fethard conceding 6-67 and Horeswood 6-64. So basically five points here and there in the difference.

Breaking it down further though, and while one of the two biggest scoring tallies came in their respective final group games (Fethard beat Bannow by 4-11 to 1-7 at the same time Horeswood beat Taghmon 3-13 to 0-7), perhaps the fact that Fethard's second biggest scoring spree came in their semi-final is instructive of them hitting form at the right time. Tubritt, Dwyer and Byrne hit 3-8 between them from play that day.

I actually think Horeswood's much vaunted attacking prowess is somewhat overblown, in that it seems that only one comes to the party on any given day. Meyler was the match-winner in the semi, PJ hit 1-1 against Ferns but still doesn't look the same player as before, and Nolan is their top scorer overall with 4-20 (4-16 from play is impressive to be fair) but plays midfield lately. That perhaps shows that they have the potential to blow away a team if they all click together, but I just feel that Fethard's individual talents are slightly more explosive and consistent.

If I was picking a team of the championship (which I will do post-game), I am not sure I'd have any Horeswood defenders on it, but there are definitely a couple of Fethard lads in contention. Having seen both of them in the flesh, I just felt that Fethard have a better defensive structure- in fact I thought Horeswood were completely naive against Ferns in the quarter-finals in that regard.

One mitigating factor is Horeswood's modern record in finals. I know they lost in 2003 and to St.Martin's in the junior a couple of years ago, but otherwise they seem to have an innate ability to get the job done. It's less familiar territory for Fethard aside from their resurgence in the hurling in the noughties, although their young brigade have had good underage success.

I do think the double-bill tomorrow has the makings to be a thriller, but I think overall Fethard will nick it.

I haven't seen Adamstown in the flesh, but have regularly seen Cloughbawn, and have been generally impressed every time. Shane Kehoe is as good a half-back as anyone, Gavin Murphy is solid at 6, Squingy is flying it at midfield, while Harry Kehoe, Whitty and Flood are all in good form too. They have knocked on the door long enough and would love to see them get over the line. It's something of a master vs apprentice on the sideline with Aidan O'Brien vs. Colm Morris, and while Adamstown have been tight and hard to breakdown, I think their neighbours will give them their sternest challenge of the year and prevail by a couple of points."
In Intermediate based on the semi finals I seen I'd just about go for Horeswood, think they're a bit more clinical than Fethard and that could be the difference. Think it's about time Cloughbawn got up, could be there 5th or 6th intermediate A final since the grade started in 2012 and I think playing football week on week will have suited them, 2 very hard games to call on the whole and weather could be a factor both wind and rain. Hopefully no draws this weekend, don't think anybody wants a county final at 8pm on the following Wednesday.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 416 - 14/10/2022 13:50:38    2443970

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Big LOL to that one. As the other fella himself might say, facts and statistics don't lie!"
Ya facts don't lie, but when you reading stats make sure and start at the start,

Lockerroomboy (Wexford) - Posts: 323 - 14/10/2022 19:30:10    2444009

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https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/wexford-gaa-issue-96-week-ban-for-assault-on-referee-42068554.html
The most they could impose.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6607 - 15/10/2022 09:19:06    2444020

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Replying To beano:  "When previewing the intermediate final, it's remarkable how similar both teams are in terms of scoring output. Fethard have scored 11-92 across their seven games to date, with Horeswood hitting 13-88. Defensively, they are almost equal too, with Fethard conceding 6-67 and Horeswood 6-64. So basically five points here and there in the difference.

Breaking it down further though, and while one of the two biggest scoring tallies came in their respective final group games (Fethard beat Bannow by 4-11 to 1-7 at the same time Horeswood beat Taghmon 3-13 to 0-7), perhaps the fact that Fethard's second biggest scoring spree came in their semi-final is instructive of them hitting form at the right time. Tubritt, Dwyer and Byrne hit 3-8 between them from play that day.

I actually think Horeswood's much vaunted attacking prowess is somewhat overblown, in that it seems that only one comes to the party on any given day. Meyler was the match-winner in the semi, PJ hit 1-1 against Ferns but still doesn't look the same player as before, and Nolan is their top scorer overall with 4-20 (4-16 from play is impressive to be fair) but plays midfield lately. That perhaps shows that they have the potential to blow away a team if they all click together, but I just feel that Fethard's individual talents are slightly more explosive and consistent.

If I was picking a team of the championship (which I will do post-game), I am not sure I'd have any Horeswood defenders on it, but there are definitely a couple of Fethard lads in contention. Having seen both of them in the flesh, I just felt that Fethard have a better defensive structure- in fact I thought Horeswood were completely naive against Ferns in the quarter-finals in that regard.

One mitigating factor is Horeswood's modern record in finals. I know they lost in 2003 and to St.Martin's in the junior a couple of years ago, but otherwise they seem to have an innate ability to get the job done. It's less familiar territory for Fethard aside from their resurgence in the hurling in the noughties, although their young brigade have had good underage success.

I do think the double-bill tomorrow has the makings to be a thriller, but I think overall Fethard will nick it.

I haven't seen Adamstown in the flesh, but have regularly seen Cloughbawn, and have been generally impressed every time. Shane Kehoe is as good a half-back as anyone, Gavin Murphy is solid at 6, Squingy is flying it at midfield, while Harry Kehoe, Whitty and Flood are all in good form too. They have knocked on the door long enough and would love to see them get over the line. It's something of a master vs apprentice on the sideline with Aidan O'Brien vs. Colm Morris, and while Adamstown have been tight and hard to breakdown, I think their neighbours will give them their sternest challenge of the year and prevail by a couple of points."
I'm still sticking with Shels, Horeswood, and Cloughbawn.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6607 - 15/10/2022 09:47:05    2444023

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Replying To Viking66:  "https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/wexford-gaa-issue-96-week-ban-for-assault-on-referee-42068554.html
The most they could impose."
The fine on the club got - I wonder what rule it was under? $1000, should have been more.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1511 - 15/10/2022 11:18:52    2444034

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Replying To zinny:  "The fine on the club got - I wonder what rule it was under? $1000, should have been more."
Punishing fundraisers in a small club for the behaviour of one person is unnecessary.

A €1000 fine is correct in my view. No need for any higher.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 463 - 15/10/2022 11:50:37    2444038

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Replying To Onfor15:  "Punishing fundraisers in a small club for the behaviour of one person is unnecessary.

A €1000 fine is correct in my view. No need for any higher."
Was it not the club who put him in charge of the team? until the fundraisers realize that having these people involved are a liability, then it won't change. Clubs will take no responsibility for excluding these people until they pay a price either in fines are being booted out of competitions

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1511 - 15/10/2022 14:45:16    2444054

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Enjoyable intermediate final, even if defending was at a premium somewhat. My prediction came true in that I thought Tubs-Dwyer-Byrne were more livelier than Horeswood danger three. Myler and Nolan were largely quiet, although to be fair PJ battled to the very end. Some lovely taken goals by both sides. I thought Murphy really thundered into the game in the second half for Horeswood, and Byrne showed great work-rate throughout on the other side.

My team of the year:

Will Doyle (Fethard): wasn't a vintage year for many keepers, either through poor kick-outs or general mistakes. He was unlucky for Horeswood's first goal, but got down well for the initial penalty save and made a crucial stop on Banville towards the end too.

Conor Kelly (Naomh Eanna): very impressive debut season. Kept Tubritt as quiet as anyone else managed, tigerish defender that's one to follow in the future.

Eoin Porter (Cushinstown): out of position here, but a leader for Cushinstown and organises the defence well.

Martin Doyle (Fethard): very often was a go-to for short kick-outs, contributed to the attack, kept his direct man quiet in the final.

Niall Murphy (Ferns): outstanding in the quarter-final defeat to Horeswood. Gifted footballer coming in off the back of an impressive hurling campaign too.

Brian Cushe (Naomh Eanna): Gorey's best player this year, has speed like Jack McCaffrey and his drives forward are key to their game.

Adam Swan (Fethard): one of the stand-out performers of the entire championship. Very good first half today, if quieter thereafter, but a key component of the champions defence.

Ian Carty (Taghmon): really blossomed in his free role in the group stages especially, was the third top scorer of the championship entering today with 1-32.

Richie Waters (Fethard): perhaps not as prominent today, but again his work-rate and presence in the middle was vital for Fethard. Kicked a couple of crucial placed-balls throughout the year too.

Conor Murphy (Taghmon): a livewire. Exciting talent that really that could play anywhere from 5-15 and do a job.

Sean Nolan (Horeswood): automatic inclusion for his scoring tally alone, having hit 4-16 from play in their run to the final. Quieter today though.

Cian Byrne (Fethard): thought he was excellent today. Up and down the field tracking back and driving forward on the counter-attack. Nailed a late free to nudge Fethard back in front, and had hit 5-6 from play before today.

John Tubritt (Fethard): another automatic pick. Unmarkable at times, his class told down the home straight today. Second top scorer in the championship.

PJ Banville (Horeswood): have to hand it to the devil. Scored 1-1 from play in a tight quarter-final, hit two points from the off in an electric start to the final and kept his side in it with the goal in the second half. Also kicked a lovely point when others struggled in the elements. Warrior.

Niall Harney (Bannow): Bannow would be in dire straits without him. Finished as the top scorer of the championship with 3-35, and often single-handedly kept his side alive with his class.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1282 - 15/10/2022 17:54:54    2444096

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I see Brosnan is going down the multi appeal route to get off on a red card. With no actual evidence to support his red card being turned over, the sooner these sort of appeals result in increased suspensions the better. A complete waste of time and only trying to get a technicality in to try overturn something that will not be reversed. Much like Cathal Dunbars failed attempt before the county hurling final, but because it dragged out, he got to play and served his suspension after, which makes a complete farce of it all.

james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 581 - 16/10/2022 10:42:24    2444169

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Lovely bright morning but things don't look good for the afternoon. Could affect the game, may suit the Castletown defensive setup better although Shels put up two big scores in the bad weather before.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1511 - 16/10/2022 10:43:00    2444170

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What a victory.

After some predictions of a Shels win by up to seven points, a preview piece that had Shels representation at 12-3 in a combined team, re-writing O'Gara's career to put him at the same level as Brogan or Matty, and a wide-held belief that they had a bench to rival the Dubs (who incidentally always looked good coming on when the game was won too), the complete unknowns won today.

That second half display was sensational. They brought something to the table that Shels didn't face in the knock-outs- intensity. Hammering Starlights and Annes gave them a false sense of security. As soon as Castletown went ahead, Shels had no answers. That petulance at the end summed up their frustrations.

To a man, everyone stepped up to the plate. Special mention to Jody O'Shaughnessy, was everywhere on the field- not bad for 40 years old!

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1282 - 16/10/2022 18:27:31    2444229

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Senior team of the year:

Darragh Brooks (Castletown): most consistent kick-outs in the grade. Popped up with a settling free in the semi and final too.

Ross Cody (Castletown): pocketed O'Gara today. The go-to man-marker for the new champs. Under-rated.

Danny Gardiner (Castletown): a warrior today, and a consistent presence for a decade now.

Ross Banville (Shels): tougher day today but has adapted well to the corner after being previously noted as a wing-forward.

Jamie John Murphy (Bunclody): led by example all year for the Carlow border lads. Scored in nearly every game too.

Colin Kennedy (Castletown): rock of an organised defence. Added long-range points to his game this year after hitting two vs Kilanerin in the quarter and one in the semi.

Frank Roche (Castletown): another under-rated part of the jigsaw. Got forward for a crucial point down the home straight and always at least a 7/10

Matthew O'Hanlon (St.James): another club legend. Contender for POTY for me.

Liam Coleman (Castletown): after a slow start, really exploded to life when it mattered. 0-3 vs Kilanerin, rampaging runs through the middle caused damage vs James, and was the best midfielder on display today.

Robbie Brooks (Castletown): top goal scorer in the championship, three points today.

Andy Butler (Crossabeg): talisman for the most entertaining team of the championship, finished fourth top scorer after the group stages.

Conor Hearne (Shelmaliers): another contender for POTY. The glue that held the Shels forward unit together. I'd be asking him onto the county panel if its possible.

Mark Rossiter (Gusserane): top scorer in the championship again, really stepped up amid an injury crisis for his club. At the top of his game.

Sean Kelly (St.Anne's): as good a left peg as anyone, held his nerve over that late free to send Annes into the last-four.

Brian Malone (Shelmaliers): his quiet day today doesn't take away from a solid campaign. Have to hand it to him, a legend.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1282 - 16/10/2022 18:52:48    2444232

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have say that was a great game to be at, shels 5-2 up after 20 min noone saw what was coming next , i hate the expression "they won because they wanted it more" but its a simple summery of this game, castletown afer looking flat in first 20 looked like someone just switched them on, the shels seemed totally unable to create any space from then on, they always seemes to be running in to traffic, which is to ctowns credit
well done to the alley and michael sinnott, a true football man, going back to when he was minor and i first happened on him, watched them before the game they were really up for it

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2499 - 16/10/2022 19:48:51    2444242

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Castletown defence was immense to be fair as they kept Shels at bay. Even with Shels ahead they were restricted to scoring from distance, with Tony Smith scoring some wonderful points.

Thought the standard was poor overall but Castletown won't care tonight.

On a separate note disappointed with the incident at the end envoling a wexford gaa coaching officer and Shelmaliers. While the Shels player was out of order, I think the officer in question probably shouldn't be getting involved in stuff like that.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 315 - 16/10/2022 20:50:18    2444247

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Castletown defence was immense to be fair as they kept Shels at bay. Even with Shels ahead they were restricted to scoring from distance, with Tony Smith scoring some wonderful points.

Thought the standard was poor overall but Castletown won't care tonight.

On a separate note disappointed with the incident at the end envoling a wexford gaa coaching officer and Shelmaliers. While the Shels player was out of order, I think the officer in question probably shouldn't be getting involved in stuff like that."
I couldn't understand why only the Shels player was booked in that incident. The coaching officer was equally in the wrong imo.

The game itself was a strange one. Shels looked really good early on, but when the pressure was applied on them, for the first time this year, they had no answer. Their Dub import certainly didnt help their cause, numerous second half attacks broke down around him.

Yellaman (Wexford) - Posts: 23 - 16/10/2022 21:16:10    2444249

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