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Kerry 2022

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Looks like Jacko taking over. I hearing Dairmuid Murphy.Dec Sullivan and Seamus Moynihan as selectors. John Sugrue as trainer.

would experiment next year with

Kieran Fitzgibbon

David Naughton
Chris O'Donogue
Graham O'Sullivan

Dan O'Brien
Andrew Barry
Mike Potts

Ronan Buckley
Liam Kearney

Joe O'Connor
Kevin McCarthy
Gavin O'Brien

Tony Brosnan
David Shaw
Killian Falvey

kerry4sam21 (Kerry) - Posts: 58 - 14/09/2021 13:46:31    2380610

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More of a kerry forum this I think, but for what it's worth I'd make ye warm favourites to lift Sam next year.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 936 - 14/09/2021 19:26:31    2380730

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Replying To kerry4sam21:  "Looks like Jacko taking over. I hearing Dairmuid Murphy.Dec Sullivan and Seamus Moynihan as selectors. John Sugrue as trainer.

would experiment next year with

Kieran Fitzgibbon

David Naughton
Chris O'Donogue
Graham O'Sullivan

Dan O'Brien
Andrew Barry
Mike Potts

Ronan Buckley
Liam Kearney

Joe O'Connor
Kevin McCarthy
Gavin O'Brien

Tony Brosnan
David Shaw
Killian Falvey"
I'm aware that it's experimental but I can only realistically seeing about 5 of that team ever making a Championship XV. There's lads on the fringes at th3 moment in the panel that could be given a shot. I think it's time for Geaney and Morans starting place on the Championship XV to go, replace them with Diarmuid O'Connor and Killian Spillane. The two lads will be good, mature heads to bring off the bench in the heat of battle.

AnFear16 (Kerry) - Posts: 27 - 15/09/2021 01:59:51    2380782

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Replying To Galway9801:  "More of a kerry forum this I think, but for what it's worth I'd make ye warm favourites to lift Sam next year."
Based on what?

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 490 - 15/09/2021 10:30:03    2380818

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Replying To kerry4sam21:  "Looks like Jacko taking over. I hearing Dairmuid Murphy.Dec Sullivan and Seamus Moynihan as selectors. John Sugrue as trainer.

would experiment next year with

Kieran Fitzgibbon

David Naughton
Chris O'Donogue
Graham O'Sullivan

Dan O'Brien
Andrew Barry
Mike Potts

Ronan Buckley
Liam Kearney

Joe O'Connor
Kevin McCarthy
Gavin O'Brien

Tony Brosnan
David Shaw
Killian Falvey"
Can we have the Cliffords so, as apparently you want rid.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 829 - 15/09/2021 10:50:48    2380823

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I'd make Kerry favs for next year too but if they come up against Tyrone again at whatever stage it's going to be some game, I think the rivalry has been reignited, Kerry only lost narrowly to Tyrone and a lot of their shortcomings were down to how they set up and played into Tyrone's hands, Jack O'Connor will have them better prepared.
Dublin will be back with a hunger too so it's going to be a great Championship, can't see much of a serious challenge coming from Connacht, I think this All Ireland defeat was one too many for Mayo, they will keep trying I know for sure but I think something has broken this time, they need to get rid of the deadweight for a start, maybe a few other Ulster teams could cause an upset too.
As for Kerry though I think they'll be chomping at the bit for 2022, that easy walk through Munster does them no good, maybe this new format will help whatever it is.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1769 - 15/09/2021 10:51:40    2380825

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Replying To dubarra:  "Based on what?"
I don't think Mayo will win it, Dublin fairly ran out of gas in the semi,looked awful from the second half on, I think they might take a season or two to get back up there, Tyrone might win it but retaining the title will be very difficult, for me Kerry played really stupidly in the semi, they wasted about 6 nailed on points going for goals and just got bottled up by a superb Tyrone defence. A better manager will make a big difference to them, and they'll be desperate to atone for this season.
That's pretty much all I'm basing it on, I wouldnt rule out Tyrone winning it either.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 936 - 15/09/2021 12:21:53    2380863

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Kerry would be my favourites next year also but a lot depends on how the championship is setup. If it's based on provincials I'd say Kerry. If it's got a back door I'd say maybe Tyrone as it means every Ulster game isn't a straight knockout. If it's a League of sorts I'd say Dublin.

On the Kerry team, I'd say O'Shea, Geaney, Clifford , Clifford, Spillane, O'Brien is still one very good forward line and why a number of folks want the job. I presume Geaney back to full forward with a less scoring half forward line.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 745 - 15/09/2021 13:15:56    2380885

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Replying To dubarra:  "Based on what?"
Based on the fact that they have failed to beat any good, good not even great, intercounty football team in a Championship game in over 2 years of course! What alot of lads fail to realise about bookies odds is that these odds arent decided based on who bookies think will actually win whatever competition. They are based on where bookies think the money is going to be bet by the punters. I think Monaghan and Donegal both came closer to beating Tyrone than Mayo or Kerry when it came down to a Championship match. Both Mayo's and Kerry's forwards largely didnt have the composure/skill to take their chances or work the ball around like Dublin to make their chances better with the obvious exception of David Clifford.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3210 - 15/09/2021 13:17:00    2380887

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Kerry would be mad to not try and get Donie Buckley back on board.

Offtheball10 (Meath) - Posts: 47 - 15/09/2021 13:50:56    2380893

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Replying To Viking66:  "Based on the fact that they have failed to beat any good, good not even great, intercounty football team in a Championship game in over 2 years of course! What alot of lads fail to realise about bookies odds is that these odds arent decided based on who bookies think will actually win whatever competition. They are based on where bookies think the money is going to be bet by the punters. I think Monaghan and Donegal both came closer to beating Tyrone than Mayo or Kerry when it came down to a Championship match. Both Mayo's and Kerry's forwards largely didnt have the composure/skill to take their chances or work the ball around like Dublin to make their chances better with the obvious exception of David Clifford."
Sorry but you're wrong on both counts there.
kerry lost to tyrone by a point after extra time, neither Monaghan or donegal came as close as that.
And kerry beat tyrone in the 2019.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 936 - 15/09/2021 15:19:03    2380925

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Hard to know. I really thought they would win it this year, but obviously didn't. Thats 3 years on the trot they didn't play to their full potential. The final 2 years ago was a particularly close call. The question now is whether they have the stomach to keep coming back for more. I believe they do, particularly when they have a new manager.

They will be a tough nut to crack.
So will the dubs.
So will tyrone.

An exciting competition lies ahead next year.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3809 - 15/09/2021 17:05:49    2380945

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Sorry but you're wrong on both counts there.
kerry lost to tyrone by a point after extra time, neither Monaghan or donegal came as close as that.
And kerry beat tyrone in the 2019."
He's not wrong Kerry haven't won a meaningful game since they defeated Tyrone in the 2019 semi final and had Tyrone been a bit more adventurous they wouldn't have won that one either.

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 490 - 10/10/2021 19:37:52    2385145

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