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Patrick Collins

Sean O Donoghue
Daire O Leary
Colm Spillane

Ger Mellerick
Ciaran Joyce
Rob Downey

Mark Coleman
Shane Kingston

Brian Roche
Patrick Horgan
Declan Dalton

Jack O Connor
Simon Kennifick
Alan Connolly

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Ger Collins
David Lowney
Eddie Gunning
Niall O Leary
Colm Barry
Shane O Donovan
Shane Barrett
Darragh Fitzgibbon
Tadgh Deasy
Brian Hayes
Seamus Harnedy
James Sweeney

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 27/08/2021 00:36:59    2375126

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Where has Brian Turnbull gone?i saw him a lot of under age and thought he would have made break through now..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2216 - 27/08/2021 09:57:07    2375160

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Replying To Farnarebel:  "Patrick Collins

Sean O Donoghue
Daire O Leary
Colm Spillane

Ger Mellerick
Ciaran Joyce
Rob Downey

Mark Coleman
Shane Kingston

Brian Roche
Patrick Horgan
Declan Dalton

Jack O Connor
Simon Kennifick
Alan Connolly

Subs

Ger Collins
David Lowney
Eddie Gunning
Niall O Leary
Colm Barry
Shane O Donovan
Shane Barrett
Darragh Fitzgibbon
Tadgh Deasy
Brian Hayes
Seamus Harnedy
James Sweeney"
A fine team there! Two questions, though! Is Kingston suited to midfield? I don't know. That's why I'm asking. And does Dalton have the legs for the wing? I know that he'd be good under the high ball, but how do you think he'd fare tracking back on the the likes of Calum Lyons or Kyle Hayes?

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1910 - 27/08/2021 10:37:00    2375168

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "A fine team there! Two questions, though! Is Kingston suited to midfield? I don't know. That's why I'm asking. And does Dalton have the legs for the wing? I know that he'd be good under the high ball, but how do you think he'd fare tracking back on the the likes of Calum Lyons or Kyle Hayes?"
I believe Shane Kingston is a fine hurler . He can play anywhere but I think his best position would be midfield as he has all the skills and attributes to do well there .

If Cork are to play well as every other county will too the psyche has to change about stopping such and such a player . You have to play your own game and focus on that no matter what . Teams are too concerned about what other teams are doing instead of using that energy on their own style of play .

I am not a fan of the sweeper but in any case what happened in the all ireland final of all stages of the competition was incredible. Teams that tend to use the sweeper usually sacrifice a player from the full forward line to cover the space in front of the full back line . The Cork management sacrificed a play from the half back line !!! I was very surprised that the media , pundits and reporters didnt mention that at all .

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 27/08/2021 11:03:35    2375177

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Where has Brian Turnbull gone?i saw him a lot of under age and thought he would have made break through now.."
He picked up a few injuries but I dont know if that is the main reason im only speculating . Id like to know why Alan Connolly and Simon Kennifick havent being giving more of an opportunity with Cork . They were the 2 top scorers from play in the Premier Senior Championship last year. Where is the incentive to play Senior Hurling ??

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 27/08/2021 11:07:43    2375179

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Cork seem to go back to people who were previously in the Senior Management jobs. Jimmy Barry Murphy, Kieran Kingston, Donal O'Grady, Ger Cunningham. Surely there are young managers and coaches who can bring fresh new ideas to the setup? The under 20 team that is coming through are super hurlers with lots of aerial ability so there is raw material there to work with. Perhaps taking a risk with a new management team and a new approach would reap dividends?

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 27/08/2021 11:19:46    2375182

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Is there a possibility that kingston will stick to players he knows or will he give more young fellas an opportunity??can I ask how do cork supporters feel about having 3 inter county managers in the set up and then one other who everyone knows?if you look at set up in Kilkenny and even our own county,there is one main man but not many could name the selectors in both counties..even Clare now have Lohan and who are the others?cork have a lot of big names and I wonder are there to many voices..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2216 - 27/08/2021 11:38:03    2375185

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Replying To slayer:  "Cork seem to go back to people who were previously in the Senior Management jobs. Jimmy Barry Murphy, Kieran Kingston, Donal O'Grady, Ger Cunningham. Surely there are young managers and coaches who can bring fresh new ideas to the setup? The under 20 team that is coming through are super hurlers with lots of aerial ability so there is raw material there to work with. Perhaps taking a risk with a new management team and a new approach would reap dividends?"
I would agree with ya @Slayer . Pat Ryan , Wayne Sherlock and Richie Kelleher should be considered.

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 27/08/2021 12:00:59    2375190

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Is there a possibility that kingston will stick to players he knows or will he give more young fellas an opportunity??can I ask how do cork supporters feel about having 3 inter county managers in the set up and then one other who everyone knows?if you look at set up in Kilkenny and even our own county,there is one main man but not many could name the selectors in both counties..even Clare now have Lohan and who are the others?cork have a lot of big names and I wonder are there to many voices.."
We can only speculate but it is clear that a fresh voice is needed I would like to see Pat Ryan being ratified as the senior manager for 2022 its an obvious progression.

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 27/08/2021 12:03:20    2375193

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Replying To Farnarebel:  "Patrick Collins

Sean O Donoghue
Daire O Leary
Colm Spillane

Ger Mellerick
Ciaran Joyce
Rob Downey

Mark Coleman
Shane Kingston

Brian Roche
Patrick Horgan
Declan Dalton

Jack O Connor
Simon Kennifick
Alan Connolly

Subs

Ger Collins
David Lowney
Eddie Gunning
Niall O Leary
Colm Barry
Shane O Donovan
Shane Barrett
Darragh Fitzgibbon
Tadgh Deasy
Brian Hayes
Seamus Harnedy
James Sweeney"
From an outsider looking in - I'm not sure you'd be the best man to manage Cork! Dropped Luke Meade from the panel completely? Surely Fiztgibbon has to be trusted to get back to his best..

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/08/2021 12:59:18    2375209

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One of the more interesting things in hurling will be to see if cork can capitalise on all the talent coming through. As a Limerick man with memories of our own u21 three in a row team propping up the bar at Nancy's and the icon it's not a given that they can translate to success. Currently they seem a lot closer to Limerick in 2013 with a good crop at minor and perhaps a few of current team will still be there.


Cork seem to be slower than others in learning the lessons of championship. Several Management teams seem welded to the idea that you can just put as many small gifted hurlers into the team and assume they will out score the opposition. There seems to be little continuity in selection. I live in cork and certainly don't begrudge them any success but you rarely see them embark on a project player. Dan morrissey and Gearoid hegarty and will o donoghue have all steadily improved in hurling from 2018. Lynch Finn Casey look in much better physical condition. Can the same be said for Coleman titzgibbon or Kingston. They all still look so slight. Surely if you have a weapon like hoggie you try to put as many facilitators around him. Give him ball. Do the heavy lifting for him. Instead cork seem to think that another 4 gifted light lads is the answer. When Waterford outworked them in last November did they reassess??

Not every county has a 6'5 " monster who can hurl like Hayes but surely when cork have 4/5 hurlers for every 1 in Limerick they can find a few lads. The balance of workers or brilliance is all off.

Sugary_tae (Limerick) - Posts: 70 - 27/08/2021 14:59:06    2375231

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Replying To tiobraid:  "From an outsider looking in - I'm not sure you'd be the best man to manage Cork! Dropped Luke Meade from the panel completely? Surely Fiztgibbon has to be trusted to get back to his best.."
Im only a hurler on the ditch but im all for trying out Corks next crop of players . Cork won the u21 in 98 and alot of those players were blooded into the senior panel the following year that Cork subsequently won .

Darragh Fitzgibbon is a fine hurler but he shouldnt b3 thinking that hes an automatic starter for Cork to be successful they should be all kept on their toes.

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 27/08/2021 20:15:41    2375294

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Replying To Sugary_tae:  "One of the more interesting things in hurling will be to see if cork can capitalise on all the talent coming through. As a Limerick man with memories of our own u21 three in a row team propping up the bar at Nancy's and the icon it's not a given that they can translate to success. Currently they seem a lot closer to Limerick in 2013 with a good crop at minor and perhaps a few of current team will still be there.


Cork seem to be slower than others in learning the lessons of championship. Several Management teams seem welded to the idea that you can just put as many small gifted hurlers into the team and assume they will out score the opposition. There seems to be little continuity in selection. I live in cork and certainly don't begrudge them any success but you rarely see them embark on a project player. Dan morrissey and Gearoid hegarty and will o donoghue have all steadily improved in hurling from 2018. Lynch Finn Casey look in much better physical condition. Can the same be said for Coleman titzgibbon or Kingston. They all still look so slight. Surely if you have a weapon like hoggie you try to put as many facilitators around him. Give him ball. Do the heavy lifting for him. Instead cork seem to think that another 4 gifted light lads is the answer. When Waterford outworked them in last November did they reassess??

Not every county has a 6'5 " monster who can hurl like Hayes but surely when cork have 4/5 hurlers for every 1 in Limerick they can find a few lads. The balance of workers or brilliance is all off."
I would agree with alot of things your saying there but I think the big thing for Cork now is to bring in a different manager like Pat Ryan. Wayne Sherlock is doing trojan work behind the scenes too .

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 27/08/2021 20:19:30    2375295

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Replying To Farnarebel:  "Patrick Collins

Sean O Donoghue
Daire O Leary
Colm Spillane

Ger Mellerick
Ciaran Joyce
Rob Downey

Mark Coleman
Shane Kingston

Brian Roche
Patrick Horgan
Declan Dalton

Jack O Connor
Simon Kennifick
Alan Connolly

Subs

Ger Collins
David Lowney
Eddie Gunning
Niall O Leary
Colm Barry
Shane O Donovan
Shane Barrett
Darragh Fitzgibbon
Tadgh Deasy
Brian Hayes
Seamus Harnedy
James Sweeney"
Why are you posting this on a national forum. I doubt anyone outside Cork (and quite a few within) are really interested in your imaginary Cork hurling team for 2022.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2466 - 27/08/2021 22:52:13    2375336

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Why are you posting this on a national forum. I doubt anyone outside Cork (and quite a few within) are really interested in your imaginary Cork hurling team for 2022."
Very True... well said Cockney Cat! Time to give Cork hurling a rest, and let time heal the wounds! Armchair coaches picking imaginary teams is not the way forward. Maybe Cork replication in both codes of the savage intensity brought by Tyrone today, would be a start!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 28/08/2021 18:38:14    2375568

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Why are you posting this on a national forum. I doubt anyone outside Cork (and quite a few within) are really interested in your imaginary Cork hurling team for 2022."
Im just posting an draft team of what I believe could have the x factor and go all the way to win the Liam Mccarthy. I am interested in other people's opinions and the players other people would like to see play for Cork. If people would like to share their views or not thats fine this is just a forum . You are right your opinion and my opinion towards GAA is irrelevant to those you are in intercounty set ups I doubt they read these posts but nonetheless we all like a rant and we are all entitled to our own opinions.

Unlike other platforms like Facebook fan pages im not pointing the finger at any player or slating any individual. Any player that is representing their county is selfless and sacrifices alot of time to be the best they can be and I acknowledge players for that.

There is no doubt that there will be 6 to 8 newcomers into next years panel and maybe the same amount of players will be omitted so this is why its a good topic for debate.

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 29/08/2021 12:41:57    2375976

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Replying To Farnarebel:  "Im just posting an draft team of what I believe could have the x factor and go all the way to win the Liam Mccarthy. I am interested in other people's opinions and the players other people would like to see play for Cork. If people would like to share their views or not thats fine this is just a forum . You are right your opinion and my opinion towards GAA is irrelevant to those you are in intercounty set ups I doubt they read these posts but nonetheless we all like a rant and we are all entitled to our own opinions.

Unlike other platforms like Facebook fan pages im not pointing the finger at any player or slating any individual. Any player that is representing their county is selfless and sacrifices alot of time to be the best they can be and I acknowledge players for that.

There is no doubt that there will be 6 to 8 newcomers into next years panel and maybe the same amount of players will be omitted so this is why its a good topic for debate."
Not looking great given the fact that they have kept Sully and Kingston in place. As for players the ones you have named are all contenders throw in a few dark horses and we might have some chance of competing with Limerick in a couple of seasons. But we are well off the mark required.

churchill (Cork) - Posts: 6 - 05/11/2021 09:52:38    2388443

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Replying To churchill:  "Not looking great given the fact that they have kept Sully and Kingston in place. As for players the ones you have named are all contenders throw in a few dark horses and we might have some chance of competing with Limerick in a couple of seasons. But we are well off the mark required."
Could add any amount of players... Shane O' Regan, Brian Turnbull, Cormac Beausang... a plethora of young hurlers coming through.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 08/11/2021 07:34:24    2388694

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Corks core is soft.. They have all these ball players but how many defenders that will just stop you playing like a Brian Murphy? . The two best players in the All Ireland were Harnedy and Horgan. The two oldest..

Camann (Waterford) - Posts: 6 - 09/11/2021 10:41:49    2388861

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Replying To Camann:  "Corks core is soft.. They have all these ball players but how many defenders that will just stop you playing like a Brian Murphy? . The two best players in the All Ireland were Harnedy and Horgan. The two oldest.."
Agreed! Cork club hurling is much more open and loose than that of Limerick or Kilkenny. Patrick Horgan and Conor Lehane are amongst the best performers this year, but they get more space to showcase their talents. Tommy O' Connell of Middleton at center back is encouraging. Now for a full back ! The selectors have a job the next few years to bring youngsters onto the Cork panel, and build a winning mentality.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 10/11/2021 13:11:25    2389011

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