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Replying To Onion_Sack:  "Just an observation but do most of the young kerry players have a touch of the cillian o Connors about them? Just saying!"
And what is that?

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 28/08/2021 21:41:52    2375725

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Yeah honestly , what the hell would the Cork lads be thinking looking at this."
They probably be delighted

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 28/08/2021 21:46:51    2375733

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Well done to Tyrone. They showed up ready for battle, Kerry did not. No excuses. Better team on the day advances.

Some serious reflection required in Kerry. I can't see Peter Keane staying on after this. The goal in ET was a killer but they were second best all day and frankly did not look prepared for the game physically or tactically."
Very gracious in fairness to you and CiarraiMick. Ya Tyrone were better and were wasteful. Probably deserved to win by more. They can be better than that I feel if they get more out of McShane in final they also need to improve on their discipline a bit. 2nd black card was utterly stupid and glad ref pulled him for it. He could have cost his team.

For Kerry, they still got more scores than Tyrone on the day. They could have won that game. Last year they failed to score a goal v Cork and played defenders in wing forward. Keane got slated. So they changed completely and they hit the ground running this year and have went for goals to kill teams. And it has worked. Today it didn't but the chances were created and only heroic defending time and time again kept them out. On any other day at least one of them would surely go in and Kerry would wun. It would be harsh on PK to fall on today performance. He did what was asked of him from last year.

Maybe though, the bench could be used better. Kerry start their best team with only Killian Spillane to make any difference when he comes on. I wonder why they even carry fellas like Micheal Burns. Fine player but he is never really used enough. If he is not being used then what are you expecting him to do when thrown in a tough game like today?

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 28/08/2021 21:49:42    2375735

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "OH SHUT UP SPILLANE and to think RTE binned Joe Brolly for far less."
I would imagine after todays meltdown RTE will be having a few thoughts about Spillanes future

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 28/08/2021 21:50:52    2375739

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "When you've lost something like 20 All Irelands out of 22 contested you don't hype yourself up.....media and people from other counties do that ......but that's a subtlety lost on some posters. I hope Mayo win the final but Tyrone will be slight favourites and ought to be winning it and if they do I wouldn't begrudge them. It's great to have such a novel pairing in the final. May the best team win!"
Think Mayo will be favourites and rightly so. But I hope Tyrone win and I think they have every chance. Think today will stand to Kerry going forward. Too many of their best young players are used to winning easy. This will toughen them up mentally and physically.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14183 - 28/08/2021 21:52:30    2375742

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Kerry wasted so much trying to walk the ball into the net at times, it was brain dead stuff. Paul Murphy was all at sea when Tyrone ran down the middle and Stephen O'Brien had a very poor game. And Tyrone made plenty of mistakes too. It was close and tight but the standard was lower than these two teams normally bring. Probably understandable given the lead in to the game. The Tyrone bench had much more impact than the Kerry one.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 28/08/2021 21:55:47    2375745

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Donie Buckley was massive loss to the set up.

kerry4sam21 (Kerry) - Posts: 103 - 28/08/2021 22:04:30    2375753

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "They probably be delighted"
Perhaps but they should be mortified imo.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 28/08/2021 22:16:24    2375757

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Replying To brisbane:  "I would imagine after todays meltdown RTE will be having a few thoughts about Spillanes future"
Spillane should have been canned years ago, when they were getting rid of Brolly they should have let Spillane go too. He was a holy show today, Cavanagh is also a hopeless pundit. RTÉ panelist's generally aren't great

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2113 - 28/08/2021 22:21:03    2375762

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Five points.

I'm delighted that the new management team have brought these players on to this level. We all can only wonder where Tyrone (I pronounce Tyrone like Canavan - Throne) would have been if Harte had have gone 10 years ago - 2 possibly 3 All Irelands, anyway…

Niall Morgan MUST be replaced in the Tyrone team if they want to win the Final

As I said in the past - I really don't care who wins the All Ireland as long as it isn't Cork, Dublin or Kerry. If Mayo beat Tyrone in the final - I'll be delighted with their victory.

Aidan O'Shea MUST be replaced in the Mayo team if they want to win the Final.

Darragh Canavan would need to watch the video of his dad's goal in the 2005 final.

Come on Tyrone!!!

sam2008 (Tyrone) - Posts: 798 - 28/08/2021 22:23:19    2375764

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Was a poor enough display from both teams. They tried to cancel each other out and to a degree it worked. Think all this talk about tyrone hoodwinking kerry or the gaa is over the top. The game was postponed soely to make the gaa money, not to help tyrone. Kerry should have and I assume were prepared for a fully fit and functional tyrone team. If they showed up half fit then kerry should have walked it. If they showed up fully fit then should have had been prepared. Relying on 2 scorers will bring trouble no matter what. Thought tyrone should have pulled mccname as he was having a poor game on Clifford and seemed to be walking a tight rope at times.

TYE08 (Tyrone) - Posts: 93 - 28/08/2021 22:34:58    2375772

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Perhaps but they should be mortified imo."
Not at all. We were not expected to beat Kerry and we didn't. I like many others predicted on here that it could get ugly. And it did.

Cork, like your own side, are in transition. Like Galway, we have had some underage success in last few years. Like Galway and others like Down, Meath, Derry , the challenge is to bring these players into Senior level and go from average Division 2 sides to competing for AIs. We are all well off the pace so who wins AI semi finals is of no concern. Nothing to be mortified about it.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 28/08/2021 22:35:28    2375773

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Very gracious in fairness to you and CiarraiMick. Ya Tyrone were better and were wasteful. Probably deserved to win by more. They can be better than that I feel if they get more out of McShane in final they also need to improve on their discipline a bit. 2nd black card was utterly stupid and glad ref pulled him for it. He could have cost his team.

For Kerry, they still got more scores than Tyrone on the day. They could have won that game. Last year they failed to score a goal v Cork and played defenders in wing forward. Keane got slated. So they changed completely and they hit the ground running this year and have went for goals to kill teams. And it has worked. Today it didn't but the chances were created and only heroic defending time and time again kept them out. On any other day at least one of them would surely go in and Kerry would wun. It would be harsh on PK to fall on today performance. He did what was asked of him from last year.

Maybe though, the bench could be used better. Kerry start their best team with only Killian Spillane to make any difference when he comes on. I wonder why they even carry fellas like Micheal Burns. Fine player but he is never really used enough. If he is not being used then what are you expecting him to do when thrown in a tough game like today?"
Good points Benny

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 28/08/2021 22:38:33    2375775

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Ah Spillane is class craic, leave him be :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8678 - 28/08/2021 22:43:37    2375778

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Replying To sam2008:  "Five points.

I'm delighted that the new management team have brought these players on to this level. We all can only wonder where Tyrone (I pronounce Tyrone like Canavan - Throne) would have been if Harte had have gone 10 years ago - 2 possibly 3 All Irelands, anyway…

Niall Morgan MUST be replaced in the Tyrone team if they want to win the Final

As I said in the past - I really don't care who wins the All Ireland as long as it isn't Cork, Dublin or Kerry. If Mayo beat Tyrone in the final - I'll be delighted with their victory.

Aidan O'Shea MUST be replaced in the Mayo team if they want to win the Final.

Darragh Canavan would need to watch the video of his dad's goal in the 2005 final.

Come on Tyrone!!!"
Agree re AOS, not sure about Morgan, yes he has his dodgy moments but is it really wise to throw a novice keeper into an all Ireland final,
I see where you're coming from though

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 28/08/2021 22:50:18    2375787

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Spillane should have been canned years ago, when they were getting rid of Brolly they should have let Spillane go too. He was a holy show today, Cavanagh is also a hopeless pundit. RTÉ panelist's generally aren't great"
Correct on Cavanagh, sickens me when he talks so properly for TV and to say they weren't two black cards was silly. As for Pat, well Pats Pat .

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2170 - 28/08/2021 22:52:44    2375790

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Squeaky bum time for Kerry, Tyrone have nothing to lose and if they could nick a couple of goals , who knows. Kerry rightfully favourites but Tyrone won't be a gimme. I think they'll go for it early and see where it takes them."
This is for Eddie exile, told you Eddie.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2170 - 28/08/2021 22:55:55    2375793

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Correct on Cavanagh, sickens me when he talks so properly for TV and to say they weren't two black cards was silly. As for Pat, well Pats Pat ."
Wasn't he saying it should only be a black card if it prevents a goal scoring opportunity? Just pulling made-up rules out of his backside!

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1256 - 28/08/2021 23:46:35    2375814

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Spillane should have been canned years ago, when they were getting rid of Brolly they should have let Spillane go too. He was a holy show today, Cavanagh is also a hopeless pundit. RTÉ panelist's generally aren't great"
Actually, I don't mind Spillane. Is he a good pundit? No. Is he entertaining? Yes. Can the other pundits wind him up? Like a bloody clock.

Is it time for him to go? Probably.

I think he annoys (and maybe even embarrasses) Kerry watchers more than those from any other county.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2116 - 29/08/2021 02:56:28    2375852

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Wasn't he saying it should only be a black card if it prevents a goal scoring opportunity? Just pulling made-up rules out of his backside!"
I think it was a case of just saying the opposite of what Pat said even if he knew he was wrong. Cringing stuff from RTÉ. Must go down as one of the best displays from a Tyrone team. Up until 2002 when Micky took over Tyrone would never have won that match, but Micky brought belief into Co Tyrone.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2170 - 29/08/2021 10:10:05    2375871

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