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My brother is a doctor in one of the main hospitals in London. His wife is a nurse. I value their opinion more than anyone else on this. Are the Vaccines perfect? No. Do they for the majority prevent severe illness? Yes. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8514 - 26/08/2021 08:06:47 2374839 Link 9 |
Build up will start when teams are announced this evening, closes it gets the bigger chance I give Tyrone. Live in hope. Looking forward to forwards having a good game. If Tyrone can score two goals there're in with a life.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2406 - 26/08/2021 10:42:16 2374877 Link 4 |
It's hard to try predict a result without breaking down this narrative. Tyrone had 3 tough games in the league before going on a jolly to Kilarney in the league final, they then had a very competitive Ulster campaign. So until Covid hit they were probably the most hardened team left in the Championship The narrative that the team is decimated fitness wise does not wash with me. In the absence of any meaningful information from Tyrone CB, we have to go with what we know about Covid factually. 80% of Covid victims are asymptomatic or suffer a very mild illness, this figure is even higher in the 20 to 30 age cohort. We all know it hit a couple of the key players hard and your point about a month's recovery is valid for those. However the rest of the squad would only be affected by the isolation and restrictions imposed (ahem). Mc Shane and Mc Kenna have had a further two weeks to integrate into the new set up, added to that the extra two weeks recovery time for those directly affected , I think they will be good to go. That's just my view in the absence of anything meaningful coming from Tyrone. This match will come down to the sum of Tyrone's parts versus Kerry's individual talent as I don't think Kerry are there yet with the lack of tough games that Tyrone had. and they need the game to beat Mayo in any event. If Tyrone get the match ups right and curtail the Kerry forwards of course they have a chance, they have a very young midfield though and the kick out battle will be crucial, but there again Tyrone have Morgan to help in this regard. Its not often a team loses a semi final by the handicap of 7 as the bookies have it, Kerry rightly favourites on form but they would need to box clever Sin uile atá le rá agam faoi sin mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1079 - 26/08/2021 12:11:30 2374909 Link 0 |
Will they announce the teams. It seems that it's often moreso the case that we don't see them until the day of these days.
HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 26/08/2021 12:30:51 2374921 Link 0 |
I'm not sure what to make of Logan's comments. I suspect it could just be him trying to put the flak on himself rather than players that have vaccine hesitancy. He's not stupid, but I think he would have been best to say that it was a personal matter for each player and not something he would discuss. In my opinion, it was clearly the wrong decision if a multitude of players decided against getting vaccinated or at least delayed getting it. However, I think all this commentary as if Tyrone have conspired the whole situation is ridiculous. Yes, it's difficult for Kerry, but it's not as if Tyrone are gaining an advantage by having the Covid outbreak. Preparations would obviously have been massively affected. Some of the players could have been badly affected or others not at 100%. One of Tyrone's key men is rumoured to have lost a stone or more, which I hope isn't true as it would be a massive dent in our chances. I feel like so much of the build up has been interesting. Everyone's talking about Kerry and completely writing Tyrone off. I recognise Kerry are favourites definitely, but you'd swear Kerry were playing Cavan or someone from the way they are going on. Kerry dropped out to Cork last year and Tyrone should have beaten them in 2019. I think Tyrone are or were in much better form coming into this game than they were in 2019, add in McKenna, Canavan, a rejuvenated Sludden, McCann, Hampsey, McGeary, and McCurry and an actually decent mid field for once, albeit 2019 McShane has yet to manifest. I know there's the matter of the league game, but Tyrone had not had hardly any training got in before the league and the long journey down etc. Still think Kerry are favourites, but it is well set up for a big upset (potentially). HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 26/08/2021 12:31:16 2374922 Link 0 |
HokeyPokey (Tyrone), it's a pity you didn't read and understand what I wrote before jumping the gun and making straw man arguments. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 26/08/2021 12:55:37 2374935 Link 2 |
You make valid points there about the affects. However most of the information which circulates is general and most average people aren't highly conditioned to run at full pelt for 70 minutes. Covid is a respiratory illness, and there have been cases where asymptomatic athletes have reported shortness of breath and limited energy. Now how prevalent that is, I don't know. If say 7 starting players wane 10 minutes earlier than normal, that's a big conundrum for Tyrone.
HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 26/08/2021 13:52:41 2374965 Link 0 |
cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 569 - 26/08/2021 18:00:02 2375039 Link 1 |
I was glad to see Tyrone get the opportunity to fulfill this fixture. Having now read Logan's interview I feel a bit like a fool. Maybe he just phrased his answer poorly but it really doesn't read well and if it's true it's very, very disappointing.
HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 26/08/2021 19:14:39 2375053 Link 2 |
So Marc O Se comes out today in an interview and talks about Brian Dooher pinching him in the 2003 semi final. So why does he do this two days before the game in Saturday? mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 26/08/2021 20:09:36 2375063 Link 2 |
In 2008 Tyrone left Monaghan Town centre on a damp Friday evening to play Dublin in croke Park the following day. It was All Ireland Quarter finals I think. Dublin were about to give them the mother of all hidings or so the media, sports analysts etc predicted. Dooher and a good few others came out of Hotel with big grins on their faces. A few of us thought ...yous won't have that grin on yous this time tomorrow evening...but how wrong were we...the hammered Dublin. I wouldn't write them off for Saturday just yet. border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 921 - 26/08/2021 20:29:45 2375064 Link 2 |
It would be great to see Tyrone win. I dont think Kerry backs have faced a serious test yet and there are some questions around their full back line. However it is hard to see Tyrone scoring the 20+ points likely needed to win. Hopefully a good game either way. bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4673 - 26/08/2021 21:05:10 2375081 Link 0 |
Exactly. Lot of people who weren't ill with covid assuming it's like a flu, weak for a few days and then OK. It's not like that at all; and youth does not necessarily make you immune. Google Neil Etheridge Covid.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 26/08/2021 21:17:04 2375086 Link 0 |
Funny I only remember Dooher going to the ground clutching his face whenever anyone so much as laid a finger on him.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 26/08/2021 21:19:11 2375088 Link 6 |
You clearly remember what you choose to remember then. He scored one of the best points seen in an AI final after shaking off 2 full blooded hits in 08.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2591 - 26/08/2021 21:37:36 2375090 Link 3 |
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 26/08/2021 22:04:41 2375094 Link 4 |
You have a bad memory then. Dooher was one of the toughest players there was. Still remember him bleeding from the head with a bandage on it and still playing on
TYE08 (Tyrone) - Posts: 93 - 26/08/2021 22:18:55 2375103 Link 1 |
Google Tracy Brennan ear infection
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 26/08/2021 22:20:17 2375104 Link 0 |
kerry4sam21 (Kerry) - Posts: 103 - 26/08/2021 22:26:54 2375105 Link 0 |
My point here is not football related! Only idiots refuse to get vaccinated and unfortunately in 6 counties of our country we have politics playing games when the 32 counties of our country should have the same policy controlling the virus. On the issue of the match-what is said and printed in text means little as most stories are 80% are non-factual. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 26/08/2021 22:48:11 2375110 Link 5 |