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Gradually coming to your side? I would have said Mayo should beat Galway before this conversation. Same way I said they should beat them last year. Gradually coming to your side? Lol.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 09/07/2021 04:54:21 2357920 Link 6 |
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All you have to do is look at the great Mayo teams Stephen Rochford came within a whisker of dethroning Dublin with, they never won a Connacht title. 2016- Knocked out in Semi Final 2017- Knocked out in Semi Final 2018 - Knocked out in Quarter Final 2019 - Knocked out in Semi Final Where is the "surely they have learned a lesson" philosophy in the above ? What it demonstrates is that there are more factors at play than underestimating the opposition because you can't tell me it happened to Mayo four years in a row, you also can't underestimate the power of the underdog and especially when it's neighbour v neighbour. I don't do it myself, but I can see why people are cautious, what would it sound like if posters or Declan Bonner were saying "we'll beat Derry no problem", they would be accused of arrogance. Look at what Cork done to Kerry as another example, the lazy analysis once again will say Kerry underestimated them while deeper analysis will show you how Cork thwarted Kerry's attack, one got their tactics spot on and the other didn't. The lesson is, better teams can lose for a variety of reasons. In my opinion the two best forwards in Ulster will be on show in McBrearty and McGuigan, others may disagree with that, I think the Donegal attack as a whole is more potent and that sways me to go for the home win. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 09/07/2021 10:28:20 2357950 Link 1 |
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Well done on picking years they made it to the actual All Ireland Final. Brilliant analysis there.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 09/07/2021 10:53:08 2357962 Link 5 |
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You remind me so much of TheMaster. Perhaps it is actually you. Anyway we are repeating ourselves. Best of luck. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 09/07/2021 10:56:58 2357964 Link 4 |
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And just to finish, you seem to have it in your head that I am saying shocks can't happen. That is nonsensical. I am again stating Donegal just shouldn't be caught again after what happened last year. Same way Kerry won't get caught in Munster. They simply won't. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 09/07/2021 11:19:17 2357971 Link 4 |
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I never heard of TheMaster, but note you continue with snide remarks just like redandgreen, all that does is make my point stronger that your modus operandi has little to do with football.
AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 09/07/2021 12:04:53 2357996 Link 0 |
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I think you need to check previous posts for the person making snide remarks. All the best.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 09/07/2021 13:59:54 2358039 Link 5 |
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Ah look, I know what you're at, as soon as I demonstrate that good teams can have bad days even when they are mentally prepared you come up with a strawman argument that's totally irrelevant, so there's no point in wasting my time. I'll tell you this, my analysis is far superior than saying, "Donegal should win" and "Mayo should beat Galway". Paddy Power can tell me that. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 09/07/2021 14:11:26 2358045 Link 1 |
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There's a big difference between snide remarks and calling out total trash talk, big difference. Like when I called out redandgreen in relation to his description of "out of shape kids" playing sport, totally out of order, he then said "ah well it was my friend who said it". How pathetic is that, you make a comment and then blame your innocent friend ! And clearly redandgreen is still damaged by the calling out. I have given plenty stick to Dubs about basketball and criticized blanket defenses, I don't discriminate, everyone gets it. But I don't stand for that trash talk either. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 09/07/2021 14:27:05 2358048 Link 1 |
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Did you ever hear the expression - "self praise is no praise".
tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 09/07/2021 14:33:59 2358054 Link 2 |
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Saying something with conviction isn't self praise.
AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 09/07/2021 14:59:29 2358066 Link 0 |
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Your analysis is far superior. LOL . Big fan of yourself. You are either TheMaster or Joe Brolly, neither is a great thing to be honest. As I said you never came to my attention before but I can see from this and other threads you have a lot of arguments to keep up with. Fair play. Keep up the good fight. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 09/07/2021 15:05:41 2358069 Link 7 |
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I never had to mark anyone, they had to mark me, and didn't do a very good job of it, I can assure you of that !
AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 09/07/2021 15:19:20 2358071 Link 0 |
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Wouldn't you love to be paid to argue. But this is far too easy. Yes, you are correct, my analysis is far superior to yours. Yours is, "Donegal should win", how I beat that, I'll never know. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 09/07/2021 18:09:54 2358116 Link 1 |
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Derry have sauntered up from division 4 to 2 with ease, hammering every team in their path! They are brimming with confidence, and this game will show how good they are. Donegal should win, but this game is a potential " banana skin" for them!
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 10/07/2021 17:30:57 2358316 Link 0 |
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I think we are well aware of how dangerous Derry could be today so I can't see us being complacent, I can see it being like yesterdays Tyrone v Cavan game a bit, I think Derry will stay in it for longer though but hopefully Donegal will pull away later on in the second half, Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 11/07/2021 10:07:52 2358483 Link 0 |
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Going back on topic, Donegal v Derry. Derry are a much improved, more organised and competitive team than they have been in the past five years. They have some excellent defenders and a decent midfield but their main strengths are where Donegal have concerns. Glass is a good fielder but can be very effective at centre half forward where Donegal don't have a regular centre half back. McGuigan has been their most impressive forward and McGee doesn't look 100% fit as yet. Adding in the 'Rory factor' and concern over McNialis and Murphy's fitness leaves no room for complacency within the Donegal camp. I expect a focused Donegal to shade it with a better balanced, experienced team. While Murphy/McBrearty can be prolific scorers you have forwards like Thompson,Langan, O'Donnell,Mogan, Gallen and Brennan all capable of chipping in with 2-3 points not to mention that McHugh and EB Gallagher know where the posts are when they attack. Familiarity with the Ballybofey pitch will also be a factor even with a small crowd. Overall I'm expecting a Donegal win but the outcome to be in doubt well past the hour mark. Looking forward to a good match. Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 11/07/2021 10:48:35 2358497 Link 0 |
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Donegal not at the races at all joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 218 - 11/07/2021 16:16:24 2358628 Link 0 |
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Getting hot and heavy between panel on match at half time. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2016 - 11/07/2021 16:49:45 2358643 Link 3 |
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Good competitive game. bit nervey from our boys, Derry doing well, don't think Tyrone will be too worried looking at either team, Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 11/07/2021 16:57:14 2358647 Link 0 |