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Replying To skillet:  "Oh absolutely... No argument from me on that..we had a fantastic run that year.
If fact I think a bigger factor than our injuries was Skehills injury, the one that added all the extra time..

Flanagan had a great goal opportunity but hit the keeper instead. There should never have been almost 10 mins extra time. We would have been out of sight.. Another goal at that stage was final nail in the coffin for Galway."
Sorest loss will be 2021 when Mayo are cursed yet again

BlueBeret (Dublin) - Posts: 54 - 06/07/2021 23:12:42    2357196

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Replying To skillet:  "Oh absolutely... No argument from me on that..we had a fantastic run that year.
If fact I think a bigger factor than our injuries was Skehills injury, the one that added all the extra time..

Flanagan had a great goal opportunity but hit the keeper instead. There should never have been almost 10 mins extra time. We would have been out of sight.. Another goal at that stage was final nail in the coffin for Galway."
That's all well and good. But you are forgetting that the three goals were mistakes. The first one mannion was pushed in the back and skehill was at sea and it rolled in. The second g Mac lost possession in just outside the 21. The third one touhy got blocked down. The one that flanagan missed was well worked and should have been scored alright. Ye had a good run alright bar the Clare match and ye were well rested going in to the qualifiers. I would have liked another week or two rest for us going into that all Ireland. But who knows it might not have made any difference. But it was a great finish and probably made the victory all the more sweeter for ye and sickening for us.

ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 07/07/2021 12:06:23    2357326

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Replying To TheRock2121:  "From a Donegal perspective, losing to a very poor Kerry team in 14 still hurts. 2 fluke goals but fair play to them."
Yea Donegal were on a high after Dublin victory and Kerry had 2 classic games with Mayo (Kerry very lucky) and Kerry who played some great football all that year changed style for final to grind out a hard victory. Yes Kerry got 2 fortunate goals and yes a hard loss for Donegal but also it was your only one.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3680 - 07/07/2021 13:13:53    2357352

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Replying To ecad123:  "That's all well and good. But you are forgetting that the three goals were mistakes. The first one mannion was pushed in the back and skehill was at sea and it rolled in. The second g Mac lost possession in just outside the 21. The third one touhy got blocked down. The one that flanagan missed was well worked and should have been scored alright. Ye had a good run alright bar the Clare match and ye were well rested going in to the qualifiers. I would have liked another week or two rest for us going into that all Ireland. But who knows it might not have made any difference. But it was a great finish and probably made the victory all the more sweeter for ye and sickening for us."
I suppose every goal comes from a mistake. Galway's first goal came after either a mistake by Peter Casey or a foul on him which was not given and somebody touched the ball on the ground for the free for the second one, also a mistake. A misplaced pass also led to Galway getting a crucial point, per Niall Burke, when the ball should have cleared up to the other end of the field. The fact both teams hit twenty wides that day, so mistakes were made all over the place and not just by Galway. I suppose it was a sweet one for us, but Lady Fortune had abandoned so often before, it had to shine on us sometime. She certainly withdrew her favours in the Semi Final in '19.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4344 - 07/07/2021 13:34:36    2357365

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "I suppose every goal comes from a mistake. Galway's first goal came after either a mistake by Peter Casey or a foul on him which was not given and somebody touched the ball on the ground for the free for the second one, also a mistake. A misplaced pass also led to Galway getting a crucial point, per Niall Burke, when the ball should have cleared up to the other end of the field. The fact both teams hit twenty wides that day, so mistakes were made all over the place and not just by Galway. I suppose it was a sweet one for us, but Lady Fortune had abandoned so often before, it had to shine on us sometime. She certainly withdrew her favours in the Semi Final in '19."
I suppose you are right. But there is nothing as sickening as letting in a soft goal or two it deflates the team. And we seem to do that in most finals. Nickie Quaid is so good and is the most valuable player on the team IMO, I cant remember him ever making a mistake. His puckouts are always on point and has saved ye on many occasion that flick block on harnady and the penalty save last week just to name a few. He is worth his weight in gold. In relation to 19 ye should have had the 65 to draw that game alright.

ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 07/07/2021 14:45:13    2357400

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2010 to Tipp. Who beat us to the 5 in a row I suppose! 1999 was bad enough, 2 AI losses in a row.

Look if that's the worst we have little to complain about compared to counties like Mayo. We've done well due to geography and the Elizabethan division of Ireland into counties. A lot of luck in where you're born.

CC2020 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 173 - 07/07/2021 18:03:59    2357478

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2011

kerry4sam21 (Kerry) - Posts: 103 - 07/07/2021 20:58:59    2357524

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1988 Football Final v Meath - replay. We had the extra man but still failed to seal the deal. Meath blessed with class fowards & an iron will. God twas a heart breaking defeat.

St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 109 - 08/07/2021 17:44:18    2357789

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yea Donegal were on a high after Dublin victory and Kerry had 2 classic games with Mayo (Kerry very lucky) and Kerry who played some great football all that year changed style for final to grind out a hard victory. Yes Kerry got 2 fortunate goals and yes a hard loss for Donegal but also it was your only one."
We've only ever lost 1 all ireland final Mick bit then again we've only been in 3 lol. 2014 was a sickener for us but that's sport. You have to take the highs with the lows.
Mayo have lost 10 finals in a row I think it is, now that must really be tough to live with. Kerry v Mayo semi final in 2014 was some battle. maybe by the time the final came both Kerry and Donegal had shot their bolt so to speak.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2759 - 08/07/2021 19:31:57    2357818

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "I suppose every goal comes from a mistake. Galway's first goal came after either a mistake by Peter Casey or a foul on him which was not given and somebody touched the ball on the ground for the free for the second one, also a mistake. A misplaced pass also led to Galway getting a crucial point, per Niall Burke, when the ball should have cleared up to the other end of the field. The fact both teams hit twenty wides that day, so mistakes were made all over the place and not just by Galway. I suppose it was a sweet one for us, but Lady Fortune had abandoned so often before, it had to shine on us sometime. She certainly withdrew her favours in the Semi Final in '19."
True. Sometimes luck has a habit of coming back to bite you in the ass. I was at that semi in 19 and Limerick had no luck at all.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3680 - 08/07/2021 21:10:59    2357856

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "We've only ever lost 1 all ireland final Mick bit then again we've only been in 3 lol. 2014 was a sickener for us but that's sport. You have to take the highs with the lows.
Mayo have lost 10 finals in a row I think it is, now that must really be tough to live with. Kerry v Mayo semi final in 2014 was some battle. maybe by the time the final came both Kerry and Donegal had shot their bolt so to speak."
You might have a point there Tirchonaill and it was a very low scoring final. Donegal outscored us 12 scores to 11 ( 2-9 to 12 pts). Oh I can understand your disappointment indeed especially the way the goals came etc.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3680 - 08/07/2021 21:14:17    2357857

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yea Donegal were on a high after Dublin victory and Kerry had 2 classic games with Mayo (Kerry very lucky) and Kerry who played some great football all that year changed style for final to grind out a hard victory. Yes Kerry got 2 fortunate goals and yes a hard loss for Donegal but also it was your only one."
Was the first goal fortunate? Seem to remember Geaney catching the ball over his head, turning his man and rolling the ball into the net.

The second had an element of fortune in that Durcan skied it out to Donaghy but Kerry had put the press on his kickouts, so there was an element of tactics involved too.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 12/07/2021 16:11:06    2359079

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Was the first goal fortunate? Seem to remember Geaney catching the ball over his head, turning his man and rolling the ball into the net.

The second had an element of fortune in that Durcan skied it out to Donaghy but Kerry had put the press on his kickouts, so there was an element of tactics involved too."
Well the first goal was well taken by Geaney but it came from a Stephen Ó Brien shot. Stephen was going for a point but was partially blocked down so there was an element of luck. Donaghy s goal yes was as a result of pressure but a very bad kick by Paul Durcan but excellently capitalised by Donaghy.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3680 - 12/07/2021 16:18:51    2359085

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96 v Meath absolutely blew that one and anything that could go wrong did go wrong.

06 was sickening for the annihilation and tactical stupidity

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 12/07/2021 19:00:25    2359127

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Nothing can compare surely with 1982.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2632 - 17/07/2021 14:51:13    2360681

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Replying To omahant:  "Nothing can compare surely with 1982."
Absolutely, the chance for immortality beckoned and Kerry let it slip. Ah well, that how she goes I suppose and the rest is history as they say.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 17/07/2021 15:33:11    2360713

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mayo losing in 97 to kerry is surely as bad as 96, that was a very average kerrry team, cavan really could have taken mayo that day, that was one of mayos worst perfermonaces in all ireland final.

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 693 - 17/07/2021 15:49:30    2360722

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Replying To catch22:  "Absolutely, the chance for immortality beckoned and Kerry let it slip. Ah well, that how she goes I suppose and the rest is history as they say."
But sure their immortality would have been short lived as even if they had won it in '82 and got out of Munster in '83 the Dirty Dozen would have put a halt to their gallop for the half-dozen! I'd expect immortality to last longer than 38 years! ;-D

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 203 - 17/07/2021 18:02:37    2360769

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Replying To centerfield:  "96 v Meath absolutely blew that one and anything that could go wrong did go wrong.

06 was sickening for the annihilation and tactical stupidity"
Losing mc hale in that final was it 96 or 97 was a huge blow. A mid fielder of his ability as opposed to colm Coyle a half back was massive game changer.

I think recent ones for mayo have been toughest for me to watch, considering the all conquering dublin only won by a point on all occasions, some after a reply.

Gumball (Donegal) - Posts: 34 - 18/07/2021 09:48:04    2360963

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Replying To catch22:  "Absolutely, the chance for immortality beckoned and Kerry let it slip. Ah well, that how she goes I suppose and the rest is history as they say."
The point has often been made though if Kerry had won in 1982 would they have gone on to do another three in a row. Some of their top players and Micko may have left after 1982 if they had won the five in a row ....

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 19/07/2021 18:27:18    2361857

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