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Well done Tones. Even without the injuries, I think we were in trouble. Tones have an excellent blend of youth and experience and just seemed to have that extra gear. We've been poor for a good chunk of the championship (we were in a very poor group as evidenced by the two teams that are in the relegation final coming from the group) and it was only a matter of time before a quality team didn't let us off the hook. Still though, it's been a phenomenal few years for us. Hard to believe that just 10 years ago we were easily knocked out in the Junior championship quarter final. And at least we got to celebrate our second team winning the Premier division 2. All three of our hurling teams are in the knockout stages of their various championships so fingers crossed they'll come good. Hopefully some decent weather for the final. Could be a great game. Well done to Ballinabrackey on surviving. Hard to believe that one of Dunshaughlin and Navan O'Mahonys will be relegated. They account for a third of all Keegan Cups in the 21st Century. Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 24/10/2021 21:00:49 2387214 Link
Great display of courage by the Tones today, most teams would have folded after the penalty but in fairness they came right back and scored the equaliser. Ratoath were missing to many influential players and the loss of Joey Wallace was a massive blow to them. Dunboyne will be massive favourites now. They're big powerful and a much better team all round. Tones could be on the wrong end of a hiding. Jones will dominate mid field, lenihan and Mc Entee will be to hot to handle up front and the Tones forwards will be sufficated by a miserable defence. I can't see any other result other than a handy win for Dunboyne. latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 24/10/2021 21:35:22 2387222 Link
Replying To Blackspot09: "Congratulations Tones Fully deserved victory. Ratoath have been worthy champions for the last 2 years but 3 in a row is a very difficult thing to do. Young side and they'll be back. Interesting final in store. 2 contrasting styles. Dunboyne incredibly powerful mobile and full of pace and can he hard stopped when their running games works. Tones on the other hand are packed with hugely intelligent football players with bags of experience and possess some good old fashioned scoring forwards. Hopefully we get a good day weather wise so the 2 teams can show what they are about." Interesting match up all right. Tones are a more pure old fashioned footballing team, Dunboyne very much a modern manufactured in the gym kind of a team, with a couple of notable exceptions. Would like to see Tones win but Dunboyne will nullify Cian Ward (if they can't then he should be still playing for Meath!) and might overpower the Tones. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1319 - 25/10/2021 09:45:09 2387235 Link
Replying To Crinigan: "Interesting match up all right. Tones are a more pure old fashioned footballing team, Dunboyne very much a modern manufactured in the gym kind of a team, with a couple of notable exceptions. Would like to see Tones win but Dunboyne will nullify Cian Ward (if they can't then he should be still playing for Meath!) and might overpower the Tones." Would i be correct in saying Tones have about 4 or 5 players starting in their mid to late 30s?? Unbelievable achievement by them to make the final and I wouldn't rule them out of winning it. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 25/10/2021 10:49:43 2387247 Link
Two very poor semi finals with yesterday's having a small bit more quality. One goal from a penalty over two games shows how defensive the teams set up and for anyone at the games they would have seen 13/14 men behind the ball. Dunboyne were very defensive but not surprising as Ronan Jones was a huge loss from the start. I understand their thinking as Melia and Menton are a good running midfield partnership. McCoy and Lavin were solid, McEntee and S. Lowndes covered a lot of ground but it was Cathal Finn who made them tick, besides his 3 points everything went through him and he picked up so much ball in his own half. Ashbourne looked so poor and had no answer to Dunboyne, they used up their one big performance against Kells. In the other semi final it was a case of Ratoath missing too many big players, McGill, Ben Mc and Eamonn Wallace were huge losses and then to lose Joey after 10 minutes really set them back. Credit to Tones though Cian Ward is like a fine wine while Stephen Sheppard gives them that bit of bite around the middle third. UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 25/10/2021 11:50:03 2387268 Link
Tones abu!! MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1066 - 25/10/2021 21:41:20 2387357 Link
Tones/Ratoath was one for the ages…and the purest! Heart and desire the key ingredients! Tones response to going a point down with 8mins to go showed why they have an excellent shot at this title…effectively they won this game twice! Dunboyne beware! For Ratoath - they literally ran out of steam. They have the strength to navigate the injuries incurred but factor in the high % of the squad playing senior hurling and football at senior level - well wear and tear takes it toll on the body and the mind! A rest is as good as a change GenderNeutral (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 25/10/2021 21:47:51 2387358 Link
Ratoath have been blessed with an amazing bunch of talent. Also with more talent coming up from underage one would expect them to build seperate football and hurling panels which would lead to much stronger unit's. Hard to believe that their teams were not allowed run proper training sessions for 2 years .I heard recently that their committee decided that the hurling and football teams should train together. Hard to believe. Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 26/10/2021 11:10:37 2387398 Link
Replying To Ashrules: "Ratoath have been blessed with an amazing bunch of talent. Also with more talent coming up from underage one would expect them to build seperate football and hurling panels which would lead to much stronger unit's. Hard to believe that their teams were not allowed run proper training sessions for 2 years .I heard recently that their committee decided that the hurling and football teams should train together. Hard to believe." If you look at their minor football team and minor hurling team this year - plenty of the same names crop up - and it has been that way for a long time so doubt there will be much change to that in years to come! I don't believe the hurlers and footballers trained together - as I understand it - they both trained on the same night one after the other with dual players moving from one session to the other. Look at the team sheet from the weekend and that for the hurling next weekend - at least 9 players are dual - that's the challenge of being a dual club! the biggest issue I suspect is the number of county players they have across both codes who can't train with the club or even play with the club during the league! i know other clubs have this too! ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 26/10/2021 11:42:43 2387404 Link
Replying To Ashrules: "Ratoath have been blessed with an amazing bunch of talent. Also with more talent coming up from underage one would expect them to build seperate football and hurling panels which would lead to much stronger unit's. Hard to believe that their teams were not allowed run proper training sessions for 2 years .I heard recently that their committee decided that the hurling and football teams should train together. Hard to believe." Why? Your club is your club. If managed properly this benefits the whole club. As I understand it the managers worked together to benefit both senior teams. Why would you drive a wedge in the club forcing players into different codes? 3feetoftimber (Meath) - Posts: 113 - 26/10/2021 14:13:07 2387449 Link
Replying To 3feetoftimber: "Why? Your club is your club. If managed properly this benefits the whole club. As I understand it the managers worked together to benefit both senior teams. Why would you drive a wedge in the club forcing players into different codes?" Ratoath are a credit to the GAA the way they promote both football and hurling equally. They have 10 or so lads playing on both teams Personally I hope they win the senior hurling this year now but with the injuries to the two lads this may be beyond them. The Tones are a dual club also and have several lads who won the intermediate hurling final a couple of months ago I didn't appear to effect them latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 26/10/2021 16:32:57 2387475 Link
Replying To 3feetoftimber: "Why? Your club is your club. If managed properly this benefits the whole club. As I understand it the managers worked together to benefit both senior teams. Why would you drive a wedge in the club forcing players into different codes?" If the footballers want to move up a level and challenge for Leinster honours ( Meath hurling is not at the level to challenge hurling county senior clubs) and you are right. Then instead of focusing on that objective the football manager is to work towards bringing up hurling and football. It just seems ridiculous that a club with such potential would be restricted by such warped thinking. I am afraid you might be right. Also if one really wanted to drive a wedge between footballers and hurlers the best way I can think of is exactly as you suspect the club is been run. i.e hurlers and footballers holding each other back Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 26/10/2021 18:24:11 2387499 Link
Was at the tones game, tones are a solid outfit who work hard with some great strikers of a ball but dunboyne might be just a level above in athleticism . Once ratoath lost Wallace early on they looked depleted, rely on him to bail them out like in the past few years . Dunboyne have been building nicely and with Jones back in the middle they should have too much for Wolfe tones but expect an honest shift from tones like they usually do. rubia (Meath) - Posts: 26 - 26/10/2021 18:25:50 2387500 Link
Simple solution, end hurling in meath with immediate effect. A total waste of time southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 890 - 26/10/2021 21:23:15 2387524 Link
Replying To 3feetoftimber: "Why? Your club is your club. If managed properly this benefits the whole club. As I understand it the managers worked together to benefit both senior teams. Why would you drive a wedge in the club forcing players into different codes?" I think the Tipp club Loughmore Castleiney won the Double (Senior Football and Hurling) a couple of years and had the whole panel training together , They would train with the Football on one night and hurling the other , I wouldnt be a fan but its not unknown lagoreX (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 27/10/2021 08:30:20 2387528 Link
Replying To Ashrules: "If the footballers want to move up a level and challenge for Leinster honours ( Meath hurling is not at the level to challenge hurling county senior clubs) and you are right. Then instead of focusing on that objective the football manager is to work towards bringing up hurling and football. It just seems ridiculous that a club with such potential would be restricted by such warped thinking. I am afraid you might be right. Also if one really wanted to drive a wedge between footballers and hurlers the best way I can think of is exactly as you suspect the club is been run. i.e hurlers and footballers holding each other back" Ashrules Everyone on here knows you have an axe to grind with the current committee in Ratoath and your comments are always negative It's getting tired and repetitive You know the hurlers and footballer don't train together and train on the same nights for player welfare where the work load is considered for dual players This was also the case last year when we reached both senior finals wining one But you write false truths just to stick the boot in You are losing credibility It must kill that the club as a whole has been through the most successful period it has ever had in its history Both on and off the field And it's amazing with all the "warped thinking" that this has happened head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 27/10/2021 12:31:15 2387574 Link
Replying To lagoreX: "I think the Tipp club Loughmore Castleiney won the Double (Senior Football and Hurling) a couple of years and had the whole panel training together , They would train with the Football on one night and hurling the other , I wouldnt be a fan but its not unknown" That would make more sense. Much better than mixing everything up on the same night. Mind boggles at it. No other club would have such carry on. Ratoath have not had a decent training session since 2019 and have been slipping back instead of getting stronger as a very young (then) panel matured. Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 27/10/2021 12:47:05 2387576 Link
Replying To head4dblackspot: "Ashrules Everyone on here knows you have an axe to grind with the current committee in Ratoath and your comments are always negative It's getting tired and repetitive You know the hurlers and footballer don't train together and train on the same nights for player welfare where the work load is considered for dual players This was also the case last year when we reached both senior finals wining one But you write false truths just to stick the boot in You are losing credibility It must kill that the club as a whole has been through the most successful period it has ever had in its history Both on and off the field And it's amazing with all the "warped thinking" that this has happened" Well said!! I laugh at a previous comment 'The footballers and hurlers' holding one another back! As has been pointed out here before there are a large group of dual players that cross over both the hurling and football teams in Ratoath (and a few that are hurlers with Ratoath and play football in Curraha!) They do both because they want to - not because the committee tell them to! Even though hurling is at a lower standard than football in Meath - it doesn't and shouldn't mean that lads can't play both! I think Ratoath Trim Dunboyne and all the other clubs that offer dual opportunities should be commended rather than scorned! ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 27/10/2021 13:07:18 2387583 Link
Replying To Ashrules: "If the footballers want to move up a level and challenge for Leinster honours ( Meath hurling is not at the level to challenge hurling county senior clubs) and you are right. Then instead of focusing on that objective the football manager is to work towards bringing up hurling and football. It just seems ridiculous that a club with such potential would be restricted by such warped thinking. I am afraid you might be right. Also if one really wanted to drive a wedge between footballers and hurlers the best way I can think of is exactly as you suspect the club is been run. i.e hurlers and footballers holding each other back" Not getting the thread of this argument. You are wandering and not looking at the facts here. 1. How many clubs (football only) in Meath have seriously competed for senior club honours in Leinster in the past 20 years? 2. Who states it is the responsibility of the football manager to bring up hurling and football? 3. How is it warped thinking for a player to want to play at the highest level for your club in both hurling and football? 4. If the hurlers are the footballers and vice versa and they support the process, how do you drive a wedge there? 5. They are holding back one another so much that they are competing at senior level in semi-finals /finals on an ongoing basis for the last 3 years. Not only at senior level but in their juvenile teams also. So outline where it does not work. 6. And there are a number of Curraha players in there as well, who have manged well enough in football, where a lot of the big football clubs only or football dominated clubs are failing. I would have thought that the rest of the county might take a look at what is making the Ratoath club as successful in both codes and spend more time on that than the usual hurling bashing that goes on in the county. 3feetoftimber (Meath) - Posts: 113 - 27/10/2021 17:19:08 2387631 Link
Replying To Ashrules: "That would make more sense. Much better than mixing everything up on the same night. Mind boggles at it. No other club would have such carry on. Ratoath have not had a decent training session since 2019 and have been slipping back instead of getting stronger as a very young (then) panel matured." More gibberish You are all over the place with this Better if you pick an angle and stick with it head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 27/10/2021 17:37:14 2387635 Link