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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Handicap on Dublin footballers is almost always ridiculously big. It's a stupid bet anyway. It's not the bookies get caught on these sort of bets, its the eijits who put money on them! They weren't queuing up to lay 2/5 against Limerick to any decent cash :-)"
True enoughBarney

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2687 - 05/07/2021 16:04:05    2356614

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This question is for Dublin supporters, do you think Dublin would have won 6 in a row without Stephen Cluxton being the goal keeper and if not how many do you think Dublin would have won ?

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 05/07/2021 16:11:25    2356618

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Replying To realdub:  "Meath are now favourites based on todays performances, and with our legend calling it a day, we'll have to slog it out I guess."
Agreed. Good to see an honest Dublin fan in the forum :)

Meath10 (Meath) - Posts: 141 - 05/07/2021 16:17:22    2356627

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Replying To galwayford:  "I think you are wrong. I hope Galway prove you wrong, I know Meath won't."
lol

Meath10 (Meath) - Posts: 141 - 05/07/2021 16:17:52    2356628

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Football championship.
Winners.
Mayo
Kerry
Cork
Tyrone
Donegal.
Any thoughts?

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 382 - 09/07/2021 10:14:14    2357943

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "This question is for Dublin supporters, do you think Dublin would have won 6 in a row without Stephen Cluxton being the goal keeper and if not how many do you think Dublin would have won ?"
They would probably have won 6 in a row with no goalkeeper at all….the rest have been that rubbish

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 275 - 09/07/2021 13:55:02    2358036

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "This question is for Dublin supporters, do you think Dublin would have won 6 in a row without Stephen Cluxton being the goal keeper and if not how many do you think Dublin would have won ?"
They would probably have won 6 in a row with no goalkeeper at all….the rest have been that rubbish"
That's hardly true now considering how close many of those hard fought finals were. Replays, last frees pointed and no little drama against Mayo and Kerry who have both come very close to stopping our great run over the last decade.
If anything, the finals Dublin have contested over this period have been some of the most competitive in the history of the GAA.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 09/07/2021 18:35:14    2358119

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "This question is for Dublin supporters, do you think Dublin would have won 6 in a row without Stephen Cluxton being the goal keeper and if not how many do you think Dublin would have won ?"
They would probably have won 6 in a row with no goalkeeper at all….the rest have been that rubbish"
Rubbish. Did you actually watch any of those finals? It's that's sort of defeatist attitude that add to the aura that Dublin can't be beaten. Maybe if more counties believed that they would have a better chance. Dublin are vulnerable this year in my opinion and can be beaten like any other year.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10796 - 10/07/2021 08:15:41    2358225

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I would say Raymond Galligan made more saves for Cavan in last season's Ulster campaign than Cluxton made in the last 6 years…. You could count on one hand the amount of saves he has had to make in that time… I am not saying he is not a class keeper but Dublin would have won just as much without him between the posts in my opinion…..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 275 - 10/07/2021 08:42:32    2358228

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I would say Raymond Galligan made more saves for Cavan in last season's Ulster campaign than Cluxton made in the last 6 years…. You could count on one hand the amount of saves he has had to make in that time… I am not saying he is not a class keeper but Dublin would have won just as much without him between the posts in my opinion….."
Perhaps they would but we will never know. If something has been achieved with an individual onboard then it's impossible to say it would have been different without that individual. If anything it's a compliment to the players in front of him. Either way there is a lot more to being a great keeper than just shot stopping nowadays.
We are just blessed to have had the service of these greats of the game.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 10/07/2021 10:37:11    2358238

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Replying To yew_tree:  "
Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "This question is for Dublin supporters, do you think Dublin would have won 6 in a row without Stephen Cluxton being the goal keeper and if not how many do you think Dublin would have won ?"
They would probably have won 6 in a row with no goalkeeper at all….the rest have been that rubbish"
Rubbish. Did you actually watch any of those finals? It's that's sort of defeatist attitude that add to the aura that Dublin can't be beaten. Maybe if more counties believed that they would have a better chance. Dublin are vulnerable this year in my opinion and can be beaten like any other year."]Dublin, like every team, are vulnerable every year. We'll said.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 756 - 10/07/2021 10:40:55    2358239

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I would say Raymond Galligan made more saves for Cavan in last season's Ulster campaign than Cluxton made in the last 6 years…. You could count on one hand the amount of saves he has had to make in that time… I am not saying he is not a class keeper but Dublin would have won just as much without him between the posts in my opinion….."
You're not seriously suggesting that Cluxton's contribution to Dublin's success should be measured by the amount of saves he made are you ?

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 10/07/2021 11:47:10    2358249

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "You're not seriously suggesting that Cluxton's contribution to Dublin's success should be measured by the amount of saves he made are you ? "
No but when all the opposition retreat into their own half any type of player could kick a ball out to 4/5 unmarked defenders… Shot stopping was and always will be how keepers are judged … Only Kerry and Mayo occasionally pushed up on Dublin and when they did he got fairly flustered and looked ordinary enough….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 275 - 10/07/2021 13:17:17    2358267

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "You're not seriously suggesting that Cluxton's contribution to Dublin's success should be measured by the amount of saves he made are you ? "
How would you measure it ?

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 10/07/2021 13:30:57    2358272

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Impressive win for Cork over Limerick today! Should be facing Kerry in Munster final. Considering they beat kingdom in championship last year, they should win comfortably!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 657 - 10/07/2021 16:43:22    2358306

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Replying To Rockies:  "Impressive win for Cork over Limerick today! Should be facing Kerry in Munster final. Considering they beat kingdom in championship last year, they should win comfortably!"
I'm sure you're hoping Kerry do ye a favour and beat Tipp in that case. Given what happened last year.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1128 - 10/07/2021 17:47:31    2358324

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I would say Raymond Galligan made more saves for Cavan in last season's Ulster campaign than Cluxton made in the last 6 years…. You could count on one hand the amount of saves he has had to make in that time… I am not saying he is not a class keeper but Dublin would have won just as much without him between the posts in my opinion….."
That's pure gibberish.
Remember him making a save against Jason Doherty when an All Ireland was in the melting pot in the 2nd half in 2017 .
People point to the sending off of Donny Vaughan in that game but for me that sticks out.

You are completely undermining Cluxton's ability to guide Dublin threw tough patches ,then figure out , and dictate opposition kick out strategies as games wore on ... .against teams at the business end of championship season.

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 10/07/2021 18:22:29    2358333

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "I'm sure you're hoping Kerry do ye a favour and beat Tipp in that case. Given what happened last year."
Yes! Tipperary have Cork's number! Hopefully, Kerry will dispose of them! Cork should have a clear path forward then!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 657 - 10/07/2021 18:23:01    2358334

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Thurles looking brilliant. Cannot see anything but a Kerry win of course and Tipp will do well to keep it to a single figure margin however unlikely.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 10/07/2021 19:01:04    2358356

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Replying To BeJasus:  "That's pure gibberish.
Remember him making a save against Jason Doherty when an All Ireland was in the melting pot in the 2nd half in 2017 .
People point to the sending off of Donny Vaughan in that game but for me that sticks out.

You are completely undermining Cluxton's ability to guide Dublin threw tough patches ,then figure out , and dictate opposition kick out strategies as games wore on ... .against teams at the business end of championship season."
Must take alot of strategy to hit the best fielders in the country.

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 203 - 10/07/2021 19:20:09    2358359

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